Re: [Elecraft] Bug simulator
I tried this several years ago. It worked for a while, but at times it went into keyer mode. Don't remember exactly what I got, or why, but I couldn't use it. I havn't had trouble switching from bug to keyer because the bug has a much heavier action and that acts as a "tell" to get me in the correct mode. I now think that I would have trouble using a keyer in semiauto mode. I would have to set it up like a bug with respect to tension and gap. These days, I only use my paddles portable, as the Vibroplex Original is a little heavy to travel with. My hand keys tend to be on the large size also. - Original Message - From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Bug simulator > Hi > > A few days ago someone was asking about a firmware change to make the K2 > keyer work like a bug. It seems you should be able to do this using the auto > hand key mode and a diode from the dah line to the dit line. With this > wiring keying a dah would work like a hand key and you could hold the key as > long as you want but when you key a dit the diode would disconnect the dah > contact and the dit contact would work normally. This should make the K2 > keyer work exactly like a bug. Just a thought. I have not tried it but it > looks like it would work. > > Don Brown > KD5NDB > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Bug simulator
Don and all, Yes, that is possible electrically, and it will work, BUT - it will drive you nuts unless you have perfect timing with the dashes with respect to the start and end of the automatically generated dits - I have tried it with several keyers including the K2 just for fun. Mechanical bugs seem to be more forgiving for me (or maybe it is the tactle feedback that I miss), but it is certainly easy to try it and see what your results will be - you do not even have to open up the K2. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > A few days ago someone was asking about a firmware change to make the K2 > keyer work like a bug. It seems you should be able to do this > using the auto > hand key mode and a diode from the dah line to the dit line. With this > wiring keying a dah would work like a hand key and you could hold > the key as > long as you want but when you key a dit the diode would > disconnect the dah > contact and the dit contact would work normally. This should make the K2 > keyer work exactly like a bug. Just a thought. I have not tried it but it > looks like it would work. > > Don Brown > KD5NDB > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Bug simulator
Don Brown wrote: This should make the K2 keyer work exactly like a bug. Just a thought. I have not tried it but it looks like it would work. I've never tried this sort of thing, although some other keyers have an explictly selectable 'bug mode'. However, I doubt that it would sound like a real mechanical bug properly used. I think the rhythm that is so pleasing in good bug sending comes from the interaction of the sender's fingers with the massive lever swinging back and forth over a large distance and against strong spring tension (all of the above relative to a keyer paddle, of course). Bug sending is more than just manually made dashes. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Bug simulator
If you slap it, it should [work like a bug]. If you squeeze, all bets are off. Element insertion, and all that. VERY interesting idea, tho. Someone should try this and report back. (I can't - I have no idea how a bug should act). I've squeezed since before my first license (N4GMN, a Technician if I recall, I lost the log and it's been a couple of years). Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 make the K2 keyer work like a bug. It seems you should be able to do this using the auto hand key mode and a diode from the dah line to the dit line. With this wiring keying a dah would work like a hand key and you could hold the key as long as you want but when you key a dit the diode would disconnect the dah contact and the dit contact would work normally. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Bug simulator
Hi A few days ago someone was asking about a firmware change to make the K2 keyer work like a bug. It seems you should be able to do this using the auto hand key mode and a diode from the dah line to the dit line. With this wiring keying a dah would work like a hand key and you could hold the key as long as you want but when you key a dit the diode would disconnect the dah contact and the dit contact would work normally. This should make the K2 keyer work exactly like a bug. Just a thought. I have not tried it but it looks like it would work. Don Brown KD5NDB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
