Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
I have a K3, but unlikely I'll be able to reach you guys yet. But I totally disagree with this K3 only stance, so I won't even bother. This should be a net for all Elecrafters - ok, that's going to be just K2 K3 until the K1 gets SSB or the K4 comes out. On 29/02/2008 05:12, Windy Dankoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gus, I wrote on my announcement: If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, simply move off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your frequency, announce your own net!! But, do stop in and visit some time :-) Windy KM5Q -- Accuracy Transcends Speed ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
Folks, I think you are being a bit unfair to Windy. The guy wants to establish a K3 user's group. What's wrong with that? Perhaps his announcement was a bit cavalier, but I took it to be an attempt at humor (i.e. saying brasspounders should get a life, etc.). I have no idea who Windy is, or whether he can successfully organize a net that substantively holds my interest. I'm not even sure I'll participate. But I'm not going to assume on the front end that his motives are ulterior or inappropriate. At least he's trying to show a little initiative! Now, I am assuming Windy intended this to be a net where there was actually some substantitive discussion about the K3--it's pluses and minuses, operating issues, etc. Maybe it would be a chance for others to put their K3 on the air and get on-the-air advice about your setup. If that's the case, I can understand why he preferred not to confuse things with other Elecraft rigs. They are different, and have many different issues. But if it's just going to be a check in and say howdy type net, with no dedication to substantive discussion of the rig itself, then I agree that there isn't much justification to exclusions. But I also got the impression that you didn't have to have a K3 to check in, he just wanted the topic to be about the K3. I would further assume it would be an excellent opportunity for non-K3 owners to ask questions about the K3, or even about comparisions with other rigs--there just needs to be some nexus to K3's. There are all sorts of reflectors, etc. that deal with specific rigs. There are also some groups that deal with brand names, not just specific models. I think those all have their individual purposes. If someone just wants to have a generic Elecraft net, go ahead and establish one! Kevin has a fine CW net like this, although there is not much discussion about the various rigs that goes on during that net. So if you want to do this on SSB, I think that's fine. I just don't understand why folks go off half-cocked because someone wants to do something with a specific purpose. Windy apparently wants to talk about K3's. There is a lot to talk about, you will have to admit that. If you have a K3, want a K3, or are just interested in K3's, you would presumably be welcome to participate. I don't see a thing elitist about it, and I think he has clarified that in subsequent follow-up posts. I suppose if you think making the topic that narrow would not fill up the time allowed, it would be appropriate to point that out as your opinion. But since he is the one setting it up, I think it's his privilege to establish the agenda. I can certainly see how making the agenda too broad could be a distraction. He's simply inviting anyone else with a similar interest to participate. If your interest is broader than that, it probably is appropriate to find, or establish, a different venue. But for crying out loud, don't shoot the guy just because it doesn't meet your goals. You can certainly offer your suggestions, but don't throw spears at him! That's just plain negative thinking. Personally, I choose to assume his intentions are innocent and honorable. If his idea is a bust, he will find out soon enough. People won't show up for the party. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Windy Dankoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Crafters elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB I have a K3, but unlikely I'll be able to reach you guys yet. But I totally disagree with this K3 only stance, so I won't even bother. This should be a net for all Elecrafters - ok, that's going to be just K2 K3 until the K1 gets SSB or the K4 comes out. On 29/02/2008 05:12, Windy Dankoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gus, I wrote on my announcement: If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, simply move off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your frequency, announce your own net!! But, do stop in and visit some time :-) Windy KM5Q -- Accuracy Transcends Speed ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http
[Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
I am interested in taking part and I propose 7.195 Mhz as starting place. Bob VE3UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
I like that frequency. I'm ready to play. Let's talk about rig colors, mods, delivery schedules, new manufacturing locations, and reviews. After a few weeks, we should be able to come up with s ome other interesting topics. 73, Henry - K4TMC ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy /2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
I've gotten favorable replies from a few people. Bob VE3UK suggested a frequency for the 40m net. I inserted it in the schedule below. I propose we start next Monday. Meanwhile, listen around 7.195 MHz in the evenings and if it sounds like a bad spot, please propose something better. On Sunday afternoon, if you listen to the 20m General band, locate some clear frequencies, make note of net freq's. We can then settle on something that's generally open. Any other suggestions? ___ - K3 USERS GROUP ON SSB MONDAY / THURSDAY EVENINGS (day according to local time USA) starting 0200 UTC (9PM EST / 6PM PST) No set ending time. 7.195 MHz SUNDAY AFTERNOONS 2100 UTC (4PM EST / 1PM PST) to 2300 UTC 14.2?? or higher? PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, add in the K3 Users Group frequently. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. ___ Windy KM5Q Santa Fe, NM K3#?? due in late March -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Calling-the-K3-USERS-GROUP-on-SSB-tp15739212p15749242.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
Just for funI will act as your temporary net control tonight, Thursday, February 28th at 6PM PST on 7.195. Hope to hear some of you on!! 73, Roger WA7BOC Montesano, WA K3/100 #75 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Windy Dankoff KM5Q Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:16 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB I've gotten favorable replies from a few people. Bob VE3UK suggested a frequency for the 40m net. I inserted it in the schedule below. I propose we start next Monday. Meanwhile, listen around 7.195 MHz in the evenings and if it sounds like a bad spot, please propose something better. On Sunday afternoon, if you listen to the 20m General band, locate some clear frequencies, make note of net freq's. We can then settle on something that's generally open. Any other suggestions? ___ - K3 USERS GROUP ON SSB MONDAY / THURSDAY EVENINGS (day according to local time USA) starting 0200 UTC (9PM EST / 6PM PST) No set ending time. 7.195 MHz SUNDAY AFTERNOONS 2100 UTC (4PM EST / 1PM PST) to 2300 UTC 14.2?? or higher? PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, add in the K3 Users Group frequently. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. ___ Windy KM5Q Santa Fe, NM K3#?? due in late March -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Calling-the-K3-USERS-GROUP-on-SSB-tp15739212p15749242. html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: I've gotten favorable replies from a few people. Bob VE3UK suggested a frequency for the 40m net. I inserted it in the schedule below. ... Any other suggestions? ... PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, add in the K3 Users Group frequently. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. Would you not be better able to establish an Elecraft-related SSB net if the K2, also quite capable of phone ops, were included? And there are at this time a heck of a lot more K2s in play than K3s. If a split is deemed necessary at a later time, you can set up special interest groups on different frequencies or at different times. Just a thought... Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
I plan to try with my K2/100. See you there in a few minutes from near LA. Rob KC6ROC K2/100 5924 --- Augie Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: I've gotten favorable replies from a few people. Bob VE3UK suggested a frequency for the 40m net. I inserted it in the schedule below. ... Any other suggestions? ... PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, add in the K3 Users Group frequently. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. Would you not be better able to establish an Elecraft-related SSB net if the K2, also quite capable of phone ops, were included? And there are at this time a heck of a lot more K2s in play than K3s. If a split is deemed necessary at a later time, you can set up special interest groups on different frequencies or at different times. Just a thought... Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
If you would like European stations to participate I would suggest lower near 7.185 MHz. At times there are BC stations at 7.195 MHz and 7.190 MHz and and another East coast group at 7.189 MHz. There are several other BC stations between 7.100 MHz and 7.200 MHz whose operating schedules I have, but not to hand, which I could send you later if of any use to you. These broadcasters arrive here at strengths greater than S9 +60db under normal conditions at 0200Z. Geoff GM4ESD Windy Dankoff wrote on Friday, February 29, 2008 1:12 AM Thanks -- please post it to the group, with your proposal. A little higher? Windy On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Although I am not buying a K3, I hope that you will find this comment about the 7.195 MHz net frequency of some use. During some weekdays around 0200Z, and I think that Thursday is one of the days, the Night Watch net meets on either 7.192 MHz or 7.193 MHz, sorry my memory is letting me down. If you have not heard them before, net control is located in the Northeast. Sometimes somebody in or near Florida stands in as net control. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
We had check-ins!!! The Elecraft SSB Net was held this evening with a total of 6 check-ins. We actually started just before 6pm on 7.195khz. Band conditions were typical for 40 meters...qsb...qrn...but Elecraft gear was up for the challenge!! Your NCS was Roger, WA7BOC, way out here in the Northwest, further north than your CW NCS, Kevin KD5ONS. For this evening, I was using K3 #75 set at 20 watts drive to a Hallicraft(ers) ancient HT-41 amplifier at 400-500 watt PEP. This RF traveled through a Palstar balanced L antenna tuner out the ladder line to a full wave 160 meter loop high up in some Douglas Fir trees. The microphone was the Elecraft MD2 desk mic with the TX equalizer set flat. The inaugural check-ins: (I get to play it up as volunteer NCS hi hi!!) W6NIA Matt K3 #24 CA KC6ROC RobK2 #5924 CA N0EHQ Ed K3 #242 IA XE2HWJ Craig K? #?? LaPaz Baja California AD5XPhil K3 #308 TX Craig, I had too many numbers on my tablet and lost your serial number in the process!! I will have a nice form ready to go for the next session! All stations were 20-30 over...pre-amp off... for a moment or two...like I said...40m qsb... For such a short notice it was a lot of fun, thanks to all who checked in. Please keep the ideas coming so the day, time, and frequencie(s) can be firmed up. It was great to hear some voices attached to the call letters we have seen on the various reflectors. 73 and pulling the big switch Roger WA7BOC K3 #75 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Brigham Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB I plan to try with my K2/100. See you there in a few minutes from near LA. Rob KC6ROC K2/100 5924 --- Augie Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: I've gotten favorable replies from a few people. Bob VE3UK suggested a frequency for the 40m net. I inserted it in the schedule below. ... Any other suggestions? ... PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, add in the K3 Users Group frequently. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. Would you not be better able to establish an Elecraft-related SSB net if the K2, also quite capable of phone ops, were included? And there are at this time a heck of a lot more K2s in play than K3s. If a split is deemed necessary at a later time, you can set up special interest groups on different frequencies or at different times. Just a thought... Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
Gus, I wrote on my announcement: If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, simply move off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your frequency, announce your own net!! But, do stop in and visit some time :-) Windy KM5Q Would you not be better able to establish an Elecraft-related SSB net if the K2, also quite capable of phone ops, were included? And there are at this time a heck of a lot more K2s in play than K3s. If a split is deemed necessary at a later time, you can set up special interest groups on different frequencies or at different times. Just a thought... Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB
Por Que? I never thought I would see the day when Elecraft aficionados would result to segregation and elitism, but I was wrong. Just as is this notion that non Elecraft K3 operators are not welcome on the net. I am glad Kevin Rock did not take this tact when starting the ECN. I've checked in many times with a non-Elecraft rig. I don't know about anybody else, but this leaves a BAD taste in my mouth. Thanks for letting me know where you stand. It was, to say the least, enlightening. Oh well, life's too short to worry about such things, back to making friends on CW. Mark, KJ7BS Glendale, AZ Editor, The SKCC Centurion Elecraft K2 S/N 0539 Fists # 2972 CC 1806 SKCC # 2240 C56 T20 MQFD # 128 QRP-ARCI # 12647 AZ ScQRPions COGRC Emergency Communications- Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Windy Dankoff Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:12 PM To: Augie Hansen Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB Gus, I wrote on my announcement: If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby frequency. So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, simply move off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your frequency, announce your own net!! But, do stop in and visit some time :-) Windy KM5Q Would you not be better able to establish an Elecraft-related SSB net if the K2, also quite capable of phone ops, were included? And there are at this time a heck of a lot more K2s in play than K3s. If a split is deemed necessary at a later time, you can set up special interest groups on different frequencies or at different times. Just a thought... Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB - (was A K3 SSB net?)
It's evident to me that there is no Elecraft SSB watering hole, so I propose the following. I LEFT THE FREQUENCIES BLANK for now, so please, if you know the territory well, propose some frequencies that seem workable, or fine- tune the times, or edit anything you wish. - FIRST DRAFT - K3 USERS GROUP ON SSB MONDAY / THURSDAY EVENINGS (day according to local time USA) starting 0200 UTC (9PM EST / 6PM PST) No set ending time. 7.??? MHz SUNDAY AFTERNOONS 2100 UTC (4PM EST / 1PM PST) to 2300 UTC 14.2?? or higher PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call CQ K3 Users Group. When identifying, frequently add in the K3 Users Group. If necessary, someone will step up to be net control. -- Email junkies, get a life! Brass pounders, get a mike! Windy KM5Q Santa Fe, NM K3#?? due in late March ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
