[Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
Hi to the Elecraft Reflector

I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of the 
K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a dummy 
load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected to a 
resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the antenna.  
When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.

When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  Is 
this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 cable to 
the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces expected power 
with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not hearing signals when 
in operate mode.

Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the antenna 
with the KPA500 in operate?  

Any help is appreciated.  

Thanks 

Ariel NY4G

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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Cady, Fred
Hello Ariel,
Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try tapping your 
key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so it can measure the 
frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
Cheers,
Fred KE7X
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
To: elecraft reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

Hi to the Elecraft Reflector

I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of the 
K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a dummy 
load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected to a 
resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the antenna.  
When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.

When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  Is 
this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 cable to 
the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces expected power 
with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not hearing signals when 
in operate mode.

Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the antenna 
with the KPA500 in operate?  

Any help is appreciated.  

Thanks 

Ariel NY4G

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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Jack Brindle
You may want to talk to tech support when they open on Monday. You can connect 
the KPA to the K2 using a serial cable, but be sure to follow the K2 rules and 
only connect pins 2, 3 and 5. DO NOT connect the other pins on the KPA -0 that 
is, do not use a straight-through 9 conductor cable. Set the KPA’s RADIO menu 
setting to SERIAL and the data rate to 4800.

This won’t solve the receive problem, though. The problem sounds serious enough 
that Customer Support will need to help you.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

 Hello Ariel,
 Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try tapping 
 your key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so it can 
 measure the frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
 The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
 Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500
 
 Hi to the Elecraft Reflector
 
 I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of the 
 K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a dummy 
 load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected to a 
 resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the antenna.  
 When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.
 
 When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  
 Is this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 
 cable to the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces 
 expected power with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not 
 hearing signals when in operate mode.
 
 Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the antenna 
 with the KPA500 in operate?  
 
 Any help is appreciated.  
 
 Thanks 
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
The KPA500 does not see the K2 Band.  I do not have an RS232 connection just 
the coaxial cables.  Tapping the key does not do take the KPA out of transmit 
even though no longer putting out amplification.  

I ran through the menus

KPA500
Firmware is 1.11
SN 825
Radio set to Serial (instead of K3)
Everything else is default

K2
t-r to hold (per the KPA manual)
QSK delay 0.03

Per Lyle's comment - removing the key line enables receive while in operate.

Ariel NY4G
Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Ariel,
 Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try tapping 
 your key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so it can 
 measure the frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
 The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
 Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500
 
 Hi to the Elecraft Reflector
 
 I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of the 
 K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a dummy 
 load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected to a 
 resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the antenna.  
 When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.
 
 When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  
 Is this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 
 cable to the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces 
 expected power with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not 
 hearing signals when in operate mode.
 
 Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the antenna 
 with the KPA500 in operate?  
 
 Any help is appreciated.  
 
 Thanks 
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
Jack

The problem appears to be in the keying interface.  Disconnecting the keying 
cable enables receive while in operate - per Lyle's comment.

Ariel NY4G

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 On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 You may want to talk to tech support when they open on Monday. You can 
 connect the KPA to the K2 using a serial cable, but be sure to follow the K2 
 rules and only connect pins 2, 3 and 5. DO NOT connect the other pins on the 
 KPA -0 that is, do not use a straight-through 9 conductor cable. Set the 
 KPA’s RADIO menu setting to SERIAL and the data rate to 4800.
 
 This won’t solve the receive problem, though. The problem sounds serious 
 enough that Customer Support will need to help you.
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Ariel,
 Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try tapping 
 your key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so it can 
 measure the frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
 The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
 Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500
 
 Hi to the Elecraft Reflector
 
 I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of 
 the K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a 
 dummy load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected 
 to a resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the 
 antenna.  When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.
 
 When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  
 Is this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 
 cable to the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces 
 expected power with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not 
 hearing signals when in operate mode.
 
 Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the antenna 
 with the KPA500 in operate?  
 
 Any help is appreciated.  
 
 Thanks 
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
Jack

The K2/100 RF output is connected to the KPA500 input.  The KPA500 output to 
the antenna.  I have the K2/100 RS232 cable made up to connect to a computer.  
I made it up per the KPA100 manual.  I have not connected it to the KPA500.  

Ariel NY4G

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 On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 That is very old firmware. You should go to the Elecraft web site, download 
 the upgrade file (currently V1.33) and upgrade it ASAP.
 
 Fred’s question was more asking if the KPA changed bands to the one the K2 
 was on when you send RF from the K2. If not, make sure you don’t have the RF 
 connections reversed on the KPA.
 
 The KPA will work with the K2 - that was tested during development.
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Ariel Jacala n...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 The KPA500 does not see the K2 Band.  I do not have an RS232 connection just 
 the coaxial cables.  Tapping the key does not do take the KPA out of 
 transmit even though no longer putting out amplification.  
 
 I ran through the menus
 
 KPA500
 Firmware is 1.11
 SN 825
 Radio set to Serial (instead of K3)
 Everything else is default
 
 K2
 t-r to hold (per the KPA manual)
 QSK delay 0.03
 
 Per Lyle's comment - removing the key line enables receive while in operate.
 
 Ariel NY4G
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Ariel,
 Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try tapping 
 your key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so it can 
 measure the frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
 The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
 Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500
 
 Hi to the Elecraft Reflector
 
 I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output of 
 the K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out through a 
 dummy load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is then connected 
 to a resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear signals through the 
 antenna.  When I press operate - I can no longer hear the signals.
 
 When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  SWR.  
 Is this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with the K3 
 cable to the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it produces 
 expected power with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried about not 
 hearing signals when in operate mode.
 
 Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the 
 antenna with the KPA500 in operate?  
 
 Any help is appreciated.  
 
 Thanks 
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500

2014-01-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
Jack

Yes, there is an asterisk that appears on the KPA display after transmit.  PA 
key line checks out OK.  Open when unkeyed and shorted to ground when keyed - 
checked with ohmmeter.  By the way the K2 has no problem keying my Drake L4B 
and I have used it on the Drake since August of last year.

Thanks for your help

Ariel NY4G

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 On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 OK, so let me understand better. You have a coax cable going from the K2/100 
 ANT jack to the KPA500 RF Input jack. You also have a phono cable connected 
 to the K2/100 PA KEY OUT jack going to the PA KEY jack on the KPA500. When 
 you have things connected this way the receive signals in the K2 go away when 
 the KPA500 is set to OPER. Correct?
 And, when you disconnect the phono cable the receive audio comes back.
 
 Are you sure the PA KEY OUT on the K2/100 is operating properly? Is there an 
 asterisk on the left side of the KPA500 LCD screen when the phono cable is 
 connected? If so, check the phono cable then the PA KEY OUT to make sure they 
 are OK. This would indicate that the KPA500 is being held in transmit, which 
 would indeed block the receive signals.
 
 Let me know what you find. You should be able to test the PA KEY OUT 
 connection with an ohmmeter. When the K2 is keyed, the PA KEY OUT will pull 
 the signal to ground (conducting) otherwise it should be open.
 
 Jack B, W6FB
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Ariel Jacala n...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Jack
 
 I am driving it with the KPA100 on the K2
 
 Ariel
 
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 On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 Are you driving the KPA from a K2 or K2/100? If the former, do you have the 
 external Key interface installed in the K2?
 
 Jack B, W6FB
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Ariel Jacala n...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Jack
 
 The problem appears to be in the keying interface.  Disconnecting the 
 keying cable enables receive while in operate - per Lyle's comment.
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 You may want to talk to tech support when they open on Monday. You can 
 connect the KPA to the K2 using a serial cable, but be sure to follow the 
 K2 rules and only connect pins 2, 3 and 5. DO NOT connect the other pins 
 on the KPA -0 that is, do not use a straight-through 9 conductor cable. 
 Set the KPA’s RADIO menu setting to SERIAL and the data rate to 4800.
 
 This won’t solve the receive problem, though. The problem sounds serious 
 enough that Customer Support will need to help you.
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Ariel,
 Does the KPA500 show the same band that the K2 is on?  If not, try 
 tapping your key to send a little RF to the amp when in operate mode so 
 it can measure the frequency and switch in the correct band pass filters.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation, 2nd Ed
 The Elecraft KX3 -- Going for the Summit
 Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ariel Jacala
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a K2 to a KPA500
 
 Hi to the Elecraft Reflector
 
 I just acquired a KPA500 and connected it to a K2.  I  have the output 
 of the K2 connected to the input of the KPA500.  Things checked out 
 through a dummy load in terms of loading the amplifier.  The KPA500 is 
 then connected to a resonant antenna.  When on standby, I can hear 
 signals through the antenna.  When I press operate - I can no longer 
 hear the signals.
 
 When I press the tune button on standby, the KPA500 does not measure  
 SWR.  Is this normal?  The KPA500 was previously operated with a K3 with 
 the K3 cable to the KPA500.  I can key the KPA500 with the K2 and it 
 produces expected power with the recommended drive levels.  I am worried 
 about not hearing signals when in operate mode.
 
 Do I need to update the firmware?  Why can't I hear signals from the 
 antenna with the KPA500 in operate?  
 
 Any help is appreciated.  
 
 Thanks 
 
 Ariel NY4G
 
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