[Elecraft] Fw: K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-07 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH



What is most amazing about this thread is that two sides can state the exact
same thing, but find fault with and argue with the other.. (???)
It's bordering on comical.


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org

To: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died


Of course. My point was for a given current, so 20A at 120V and 20A at 
13.8V.  --wunder, K6WRU


On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

I stated the voltage drop across a resistance (the wire conductor) is 
directly proportional to the amount of current flow (amperage) through 
it.


For a given resistance, as the current increases through it, the voltage 
drop increases in it.


Changing the supply voltage will change the current flow through the 
same conductor resistance and affect the voltage drop in it.




-Original Message- From: Walter Underwood
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:20 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

There is a point which could be made -- the percentage voltage drop is 
bigger at 12V than at 120V.


If the voltage drop on your power supply wire is 2V for a given current, 
that is the same regardless of the supply voltage. With a 120V supply, 
the wire will deliver 118V and with 13.8V it will deliver 11.8V.


So the same voltage drop can matter more at lower supply voltages.

Note that I'm ignoring the difference between AC and DC and skin effect.

wunder
K6WRU






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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-07 Thread Tony Estep
Apparently Ohm's Law is too complicated to argue about on here. Let's go
back to discussing whether or not you can read the Heisenberg uncertainty
quantity (10-34 joule-seconds) on your voltmeter.

Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-07 Thread Harlan
well. If it is a Simpson 260, I'm sure you can You can read ANYTHING with a 
Simpson...;)

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-07 Thread Mark Bayern
 You can read ANYTHING with a Simpson...

Including:

  1 -- orientation of the meter. Try it. Zero the scale with the meter
vertical and then lay the meter on its back. Different readings.

  2 -- the static charge on the meter glass.

  3 -- ...  I'll just stop at two for now

Mark


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Harlan hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:
 well. If it is a Simpson 260, I'm sure you can You can read ANYTHING with 
 a Simpson...;)

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-07 Thread riese-k3djc
but what microphone should I use on my K3

Bob K3DJC
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:43:39 -0400 Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com
writes:
 
 
 What is most amazing about this thread is that two sides can state 
 the exact
 same thing, but find fault with and argue with the other.. (???)
 It's bordering on comical.
 
  73, Charlie k3ICH
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org
  To: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com
  Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
 
 
  Of course. My point was for a given current, so 20A at 120V and 
 20A at 
  13.8V.  --wunder, K6WRU
 
  On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
 
  I stated the voltage drop across a resistance (the wire 
 conductor) is 
  directly proportional to the amount of current flow (amperage) 
 through 
  it.
 
  For a given resistance, as the current increases through it, the 
 voltage 
  drop increases in it.
 
  Changing the supply voltage will change the current flow through 
 the 
  same conductor resistance and affect the voltage drop in it.
 
 
 
  -Original Message- From: Walter Underwood
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:20 AM
  To: Elecraft Reflector
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
 
  There is a point which could be made -- the percentage voltage 
 drop is 
  bigger at 12V than at 120V.
 
  If the voltage drop on your power supply wire is 2V for a given 
 current, 
  that is the same regardless of the supply voltage. With a 120V 
 supply, 
  the wire will deliver 118V and with 13.8V it will deliver 
 11.8V.
 
  So the same voltage drop can matter more at lower supply 
 voltages.
 
  Note that I'm ignoring the difference between AC and DC and skin 
 effect.
 
  wunder
  K6WRU
 
 
 
 
 
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