Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-30 Thread Sean Michael Johnston
I have revised the original file - 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/edit?usp=sharing

And I added a couple layouts for anyone wanting to make a series of these on a 
6x9 sheet of copper clad - 2 files(front and back) - 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqRUNIeUZ4eGs4cUU/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqeHJ0YXd4YXh4Z1U/edit?usp=sharing

- 73 - Sean

On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Kevin Crossett kcross...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sean. I am looking forward to seeing the revised layout. I did something 
 similar several months ago, but my layout skills using pcbexpress were not 
 nearly as clean and sharp as your board. In the end, my transfer method using 
 an clothes iron left a lot to be desired. I also wasted a lot of copper clad 
 board working on the design. Not having an electronics background did not 
 help the situation either. Don helped me figure out a few things I was doing 
 wrong. Nonetheless, I continued trudging forward, and managed to learn 
 something in the process. Since that first experience with board 
 construction, I purchased a laminator off Amazon that works great. I have a 
 board ready to use for a xtal test fixture from Chuck Adam's, K7QO lab 
 notebook, but I have not had time to build it yet ... too many other projects 
 ahead of it, including a great transmitter from GQRP that uses a similar 
 construction technique as the xtal fixture (muppet or limerick construction 
 depending on who is speaking). That rig is on the bench now, and as soon as I 
 can get into the workshop, I plan to start making some solder smoke. 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM, s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com 
 s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com wrote:
 Dhoh!
 
 I'll post up a revised version with the OUT label corrected. Thanks for 
 letting me know. 
 It's good to know that it works. 
 
 - Sean
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kevin Crossett kcross...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had 
 success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean 
 produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method 
 described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label 
 is actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks FB. 
 
 Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ... 
 
 Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it 
 connect? 
 
 Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the audio 
 out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without unplugging 
 the audio out connector from the header? 
 
 Thanks for any insight...
 
 Kevin
 KK4LSG
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to go 
 to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want to 
 consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are 
 occasional requests for those boards.
 
 Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach it 
 to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio 
 output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for 
 servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the 
 output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the 
 Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to 
 allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the 
 microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can 
 solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that will 
 plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the 
 'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone 
 jack.
 
 The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I 
 used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my 
 points are after the muting transistors.
 If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still attach 
 to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 - and is 
 quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.
 
 I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since he 
 had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio 
 Output board was an easy and simple solution.
 
 Good luck on getting that license.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 I’m a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many uses 
 I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while at 
 sea on a sailboat.
 I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor 
 first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.
 
 I was thinking of 

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread Kevin Crossett
I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had
success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean
produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method
described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label
is actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks
FB.

Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ...

Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it
connect?

Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the
audio out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without
unplugging the audio out connector from the header?

Thanks for any insight...

Kevin
KK4LSG


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Sean,

 The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to go
 to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want to
 consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are
 occasional requests for those boards.

 Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach
 it to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio
 output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for
 servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the
 output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the
 Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to
 allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the
 microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can
 solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that
 will plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the
 'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone
 jack.

 The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I
 used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my
 points are after the muting transistors.
 If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still
 attach to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 -
 and is quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.

 I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since
 he had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio
 Output board was an easy and simple solution.

 Good luck on getting that license.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:

 Hello All.

 I'm a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many
 uses I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while
 at sea on a sailboat.
 I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor
 first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.

 I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS.
 My plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I
 have recreated NØSS's layout as a printable pdf (
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/
 edit?usp=sharing), and am thinking I'll run the line out to pin 5 of the
  8-pin mic connection so I can have a single cable between the K2 and the
 SignaLink.

 My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs
 from? Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by
 W3FPR's great instructions (http://www2.opparc.org/
 mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf), or
 would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as recommended
 by EA3BLQ (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf)
 for his Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out
 from the K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines?

 I realize that I'm building a legacy product here, but from the activity
 I've seen on this mailing list, it's definitely not dead yet.



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread Dennis Moore
The ground is not needed on the audio output line. If there was to be 
one it would be connected to chassis ground, and that circuit already 
has a chassis ground connection.


An Elecraft-wired mic won't use pin 5, so it's safe to leave the audio 
out connected to pin 5 of the header.


73, Dennis NJ6G

On 1/29/2014 11:21 AM, Kevin Crossett wrote:

Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it
connect?

Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the
audio out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without
unplugging the audio out connector from the header?

Thanks for any insight...


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com
Dhoh!

I'll post up a revised version with the OUT label corrected. Thanks for letting 
me know. 
It's good to know that it works. 

- Sean

 On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kevin Crossett kcross...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had 
 success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean 
 produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method 
 described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label is 
 actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks FB. 
 
 Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ... 
 
 Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it 
 connect? 
 
 Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the audio 
 out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without unplugging 
 the audio out connector from the header? 
 
 Thanks for any insight...
 
 Kevin
 KK4LSG
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to go 
 to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want to 
 consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are 
 occasional requests for those boards.
 
 Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach it 
 to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio 
 output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for 
 servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the 
 output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the 
 Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to 
 allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the 
 microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can 
 solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that will 
 plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the 
 'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone 
 jack.
 
 The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I 
 used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my 
 points are after the muting transistors.
 If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still attach 
 to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 - and is 
 quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.
 
 I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since he 
 had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio 
 Output board was an easy and simple solution.
 
 Good luck on getting that license.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 I’m a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many 
 uses I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while 
 at sea on a sailboat.
 I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor 
 first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.
 
 I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS. My 
 plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I have 
 recreated NØSS’s layout as a printable pdf 
 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/edit?usp=sharing),
  and am thinking I’ll run the line out to pin 5 of the  8-pin mic 
 connection so I can have a single cable between the K2 and the SignaLink.
 
 My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs 
 from? Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by 
 W3FPR’s great instructions 
 (http://www2.opparc.org/mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf),
  or would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as 
 recommended by EA3BLQ 
 (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf) for his 
 Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out from the 
 K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines?
 
 I realize that I’m building a legacy product here, but from the activity 
 I’ve seen on this mailing list, it’s definitely not dead yet.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Kevin,

With the Elecraft pinout, pin 5 is defined as FUNC - which was never 
implemented in the K2, so that is the choice for use as an unused mic pin.
Caution, there is circuitry connected to the FUNC input, so that must 
remain isolated - in other words, if there is a jumper from FUNC to 5 on 
the microphone configuration header, it must be removed.  You can 
connect the audio out wire to the pin marked 5, and only that pin.


On the ground situation, the proximity of the Control Panel Ground and 
the Front Panel ground is such that a direct ground connection is not 
necessary - at least it works that way in my K2.  If I wire to the rear 
panel, I will run a wire for the AF as well as the ground - that also 
works well.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/29/2014 2:21 PM, Kevin Crossett wrote:

I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had
success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean
produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method
described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label
is actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks
FB.

Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ...

Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it
connect?

Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the
audio out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without
unplugging the audio out connector from the header?

Thanks for any insight...

Kevin
KK4LSG


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:


Sean,

The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to go
to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want to
consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are
occasional requests for those boards.

Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach
it to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio
output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for
servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the
output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the
Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to
allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the
microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can
solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that
will plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the
'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone
jack.

The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I
used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my
points are after the muting transistors.
If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still
attach to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 -
and is quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.

I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since
he had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio
Output board was an easy and simple solution.

Good luck on getting that license.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:


Hello All.

I'm a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many
uses I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while
at sea on a sailboat.
I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor
first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.

I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS.
My plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I
have recreated NØSS's layout as a printable pdf (
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/
edit?usp=sharing), and am thinking I'll run the line out to pin 5 of the
  8-pin mic connection so I can have a single cable between the K2 and the
SignaLink.

My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs
from? Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by
W3FPR's great instructions (http://www2.opparc.org/
mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf), or
would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as recommended
by EA3BLQ (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf)
for his Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out
from the K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines?

I realize that I'm building a legacy product here, but from the activity
I've seen on this mailing list, it's definitely not dead yet.




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread Gmail
Thanks for the advice everyone. Sean. I have only made the board. I have not 
soldered anything to it yet, but it does look like the traces are correct. The 
last time I did something with the audio out board, I messed up somewhere and 
messed up the alignment on the radio. No worries though, Don got me back on the 
air in no time. Hopefully his services won't be necessary this time around. 

 On Jan 29, 2014, at 15:37, s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com 
 s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com wrote:
 
 Dhoh!
 
 I'll post up a revised version with the OUT label corrected. Thanks for 
 letting me know. 
 It's good to know that it works. 
 
 - Sean
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kevin Crossett kcross...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had 
 success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean 
 produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method 
 described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label 
 is actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks FB. 
 
 Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ... 
 
 Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it 
 connect? 
 
 Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the audio 
 out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without unplugging 
 the audio out connector from the header? 
 
 Thanks for any insight...
 
 Kevin
 KK4LSG
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to go 
 to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want to 
 consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are 
 occasional requests for those boards.
 
 Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach it 
 to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio 
 output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for 
 servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the 
 output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the 
 Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to 
 allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the 
 microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can 
 solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that 
 will plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the 
 'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone 
 jack.
 
 The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I 
 used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my 
 points are after the muting transistors.
 If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still attach 
 to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 - and is 
 quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.
 
 I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since he 
 had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio 
 Output board was an easy and simple solution.
 
 Good luck on getting that license.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 I’m a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many 
 uses I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 
 while at sea on a sailboat.
 I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor 
 first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.
 
 I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS. 
 My plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I 
 have recreated NØSS’s layout as a printable pdf 
 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/edit?usp=sharing),
  and am thinking I’ll run the line out to pin 5 of the  8-pin mic 
 connection so I can have a single cable between the K2 and the SignaLink.
 
 My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs 
 from? Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by 
 W3FPR’s great instructions 
 (http://www2.opparc.org/mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf),
  or would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as 
 recommended by EA3BLQ 
 (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf) for his 
 Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out from the 
 K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines?
 
 I realize that I’m building a legacy product here, but from the activity 
 I’ve seen on this mailing list, it’s definitely not dead yet.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-29 Thread Kevin Crossett
Hi Sean. I am looking forward to seeing the revised layout. I did something
similar several months ago, but my layout skills using pcbexpress were not
nearly as clean and sharp as your board. In the end, my transfer method
using an clothes iron left a lot to be desired. I also wasted a lot of
copper clad board working on the design. Not having an electronics
background did not help the situation either. Don helped me figure out a
few things I was doing wrong. Nonetheless, I continued trudging forward,
and managed to learn something in the process. Since that first experience
with board construction, I purchased a laminator off Amazon that works
great. I have a board ready to use for a xtal test fixture from Chuck
Adam's, K7QO lab notebook, but I have not had time to build it yet ... too
many other projects ahead of it, including a great transmitter from GQRP
that uses a similar construction technique as the xtal fixture (muppet or
limerick construction depending on who is speaking). That rig is on the
bench now, and as soon as I can get into the workshop, I plan to start
making some solder smoke.




On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM, s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com 
s...@seanmichaeljohnston.com wrote:

 Dhoh!

 I'll post up a revised version with the OUT label corrected. Thanks for
 letting me know.
 It's good to know that it works.

 - Sean

 On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kevin Crossett kcross...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been messing about with this board for a while, but have not had
 success hooking it up the rig yet. I downloaded the schematic that Sean
 produced ... nice job ... and made up a board using the laser toner method
 described by K7QO. I did see one small issue with the board. The OUT label
 is actually labeled GND ... a minor oversight. Otherwise the board looks
 FB.

 Two questions about using pin 5 from the microphone header ...

 Is the ground from the audio out board still used? If so, where does it
 connect?

 Also, while I don't use a mic (CW only at this point), if I attach the
 audio out to pin 5, can I still plug in an Elecraft-wired mic without
 unplugging the audio out connector from the header?

 Thanks for any insight...

 Kevin
 KK4LSG


 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Sean,

 The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to
 go to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might want
 to consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  There are
 occasional requests for those boards.

 Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach
 it to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the audio
 output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to remove for
 servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is installed.  For the
 output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is an ideal place (for the
 Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire that is an adequate length to
 allow the Control Board to be removed sufficiently that you can reach the
 microphone configuration header on the back of the Front Panel.  You can
 solder the audio output wire to one of the 'computer' type jumpers that
 will plug right into the microphone configuration header - make certain the
 'jumper' is plugged only into the side that is closest to the microphone
 jack.

 The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I
 used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my
 points are after the muting transistors.
 If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still
 attach to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 2 -
 and is quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.

 I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since
 he had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed Audio
 Output board was an easy and simple solution.

 Good luck on getting that license.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:

 Hello All.

 I'm a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many
 uses I have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while
 at sea on a sailboat.
 I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor
 first and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.

 I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS.
 My plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I
 have recreated NØSS's layout as a printable pdf (
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/
 edit?usp=sharing), and am thinking I'll run the line out to pin 5 of
 the  8-pin mic connection so I can have a single cable between the K2 and
 the SignaLink.

 My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs
 from? Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by
 W3FPR's great instructions 

[Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-27 Thread Sean Michael Johnston
Hello All.

I’m a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many uses I 
have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while at sea on 
a sailboat.
I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor first 
and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.

I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS. My 
plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I have 
recreated NØSS’s layout as a printable pdf 
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/edit?usp=sharing),
 and am thinking I’ll run the line out to pin 5 of the  8-pin mic connection so 
I can have a single cable between the K2 and the SignaLink. 

My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs from? 
Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by W3FPR’s great 
instructions 
(http://www2.opparc.org/mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf),
 or would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as recommended 
by EA3BLQ (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf) for 
his Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out from the 
K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines? 

I realize that I’m building a legacy product here, but from the activity I’ve 
seen on this mailing list, it’s definitely not dead yet.

Thanks -  Sean (working on the call sign)


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Line Out Mods

2014-01-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sean,

The circuit is simple enough to build on perfboard if you don't want to 
go to the trouble of making a board.  If you do make boards, you might 
want to consider making additional board and offering them for sale.  
There are occasional requests for those boards.


Build the version which lays the components flat on the board and attach 
it to the back of the Control Board.  That way everything except the 
audio output is on the Control Board making the Control Board easy to 
remove for servicing - plus it fits easily when the KPA100 is 
installed.  For the output connection, yes an unused microphone pin is 
an ideal place (for the Elecraft microphones, use pin 5).  Use a wire 
that is an adequate length to allow the Control Board to be removed 
sufficiently that you can reach the microphone configuration header on 
the back of the Front Panel.  You can solder the audio output wire to 
one of the 'computer' type jumpers that will plug right into the 
microphone configuration header - make certain the 'jumper' is plugged 
only into the side that is closest to the microphone jack.


The only difference between Pauli's (SK) AF take off point and the one I 
used is that Pauli's is prior to the muting transistors in the K2 and my 
points are after the muting transistors.
If you prefer that the AF not be muted during TX, then you can still 
attach to the back of the Control Board at the rear of CB J2 pins 1 and 
2 - and is quite independent of the KDSP2 (or KAF2) option.


I might add that Pauli did buy one of my boards - I asked him Why since 
he had a wonderful interface already, and he replied that my Fixed 
Audio Output board was an easy and simple solution.


Good luck on getting that license.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 1/27/2014 6:08 PM, Sean Michael Johnston wrote:

Hello All.

I’m a newbie here and about to embark on building a K2. One of the many uses I 
have planned for the radio is to send emails over Winlink 2000 while at sea on 
a sailboat.
I'd like to communicate with the SignaLink USB sound card through Winmor first 
and then eventually with a PACTOR 3 or 4 modem.

I was thinking of building the fixed audio out designed by W3FPR  NØSS. My 
plan is to fabricate a pcb using the laser printer transfer method. I have 
recreated NØSS’s layout as a printable pdf 
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D41ceK5uSqM3VGa05BWXBhYkE/edit?usp=sharing), 
and am thinking I’ll run the line out to pin 5 of the  8-pin mic connection so I 
can have a single cable between the K2 and the SignaLink.

My question is where is the best point in the K2 to source the AF inputs from? 
Is it cleaner to tap into the control board as is illustrated by W3FPR’s great 
instructions 
(http://www2.opparc.org/mirrors/n0ss/www.n0ss.net/w3fpr_fixed_af_output_for_the_k2_v2r1.pdf),
 or would it be a better signal if I tap into the KDSP2  board as recommended 
by EA3BLQ (http://www.qsl.net/ea3blq/downloads/k2di-pci_const_manual.pdf) for 
his Sound Card Interface? And is this the best way to get a line out from the 
K2, or has there been any newer advancements along those lines?

I realize that I’m building a legacy product here, but from the activity I’ve 
seen on this mailing list, it’s definitely not dead yet.




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