re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output
In the recent discussions of this subject, I don't recall any mention of Rx EQ settings, or FLx gain settings as ways of obtaining more output. For CW operation, I'm using +10 dB gain in the 200 Hz and 400 Hz Rx EQ bands (my CW pitch settings are always set between 300 and 400 Hz). I get plenty of headphone volume in my cheap Radio Shack stereo headset (especially if I remember to keep the earpiece volume controls turned up!) 73, Chuck NI0C ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output
In the recent discussions of this subject, I don't recall any mention of Rx EQ settings, or FLx gain settings as ways of obtaining more output... I don't recommend that you do this, although of course yo can. When you go to 100 Hz or 50 Hz width, the RxEQ is no longer in effect so you'll lose this boost. I'd suggest more sensitive headphones if setting AF Gain to HI doesn't give yu the boost you need. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output
ni0c wrote: In the recent discussions of this subject, I don't recall any mention of Rx EQ settings, or FLx gain settings as ways of obtaining more output. For CW operation, I'm using +10 dB gain in the 200 Hz and 400 Hz Rx EQ bands (my CW pitch settings are always set between 300 and 400 Hz). I get plenty of headphone volume in my cheap Radio Shack stereo headset (especially if I remember to keep the earpiece volume controls turned up!) You really shouldn't need to increase the filter gains over what is necessary to equalize the filters. For example, I have my 2.8 and 1 kHz filters set to 0 db, and the 400 Hz one to +4 dB. I verified that this was correct by using a steady signal source (an Elecraft XG-1), turning the AGC off and using the dBv function to compare the gains. If you need more headphone volume, first make sure that you have set the AF Gain in the CONFIG menu to HIGH. If that doesn't work, something's wrong. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.
Must admit that I've never been completely 'thrilled' with the performance of my 10+ year old Heil ProSet cans when used with my K2 or my K3. I've almost always had to crank up the AF Gain higher than that which gave more than ample AF output to the attached speakers. I've even gone to the point of considering trying to replace the OEM headphone elements with some small 8-Ohm speakers... haven't done it (yet) but it's certainly been on my agenda to research. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS At 16:31 11/16/2008, Bill W4ZV wrote: Barry N1EU wrote: My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI Just FYI my AF GAIN is set to LO, and I still have plenty of gain. I'm not sure about the actual impedance of my Heils but I've never had any problems with a TS-930S, FT-1000MP, Orion or the K3. They were a little weak when used with my K2 however. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---How-to-get-more-headphone-output.-tp1506562p1507314.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.
Tom and All, I have had much the same experience with my ProSet. I made a post quite similar to yours some time back, and got lots of replies to the contrary. All this leads me to believe there are some inconsistencies in the production of these headsets. The more recent series of posts only strengthens my belief that differences do exist. That shouldn't be the case, but it seems to be so. Heil has never owned up to it though, at least when I asked about it at Dayton. I'd sure like to do an A/B test with a newer set. Mine are several years old. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output. Must admit that I've never been completely 'thrilled' with the performance of my 10+ year old Heil ProSet cans when used with my K2 or my K3. I've almost always had to crank up the AF Gain higher than that which gave more than ample AF output to the attached speakers. I've even gone to the point of considering trying to replace the OEM headphone elements with some small 8-Ohm speakers... haven't done it (yet) but it's certainly been on my agenda to research. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS At 16:31 11/16/2008, Bill W4ZV wrote: Barry N1EU wrote: My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI Just FYI my AF GAIN is set to LO, and I still have plenty of gain. I'm not sure about the actual impedance of my Heils but I've never had any problems with a TS-930S, FT-1000MP, Orion or the K3. They were a little weak when used with my K2 however. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---How-to-get-more-headphone-output.-tp1506562p1507314.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.
W0CP wrote: I've been disappointed with the audio output from my Heil proset headphones. I've got other headphones around that are more sensitive, but I like boom mic headphones. That's very strange. I have two original Heil Pro-Sets (not the Pro-Set Plus) which must be ~20 years old. On both the maximum I ever turn set AF gain to is 9-10 o'clock. I normally leave both Main and Sub AF set there and adjust RF Gain for a comfortable level. I wonder if your Heil headset might be 200 ohms impedance? I think mine are 32 ohms which the K3 is designed for and both work very well, as well as the Extreme Isolation EX-29 (32 ohms also) which is my current favorite for CW. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---How-to-get-more-headphone-output.-tp1506562p1507049.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.
My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI 73, Barry N1EU Bill W4ZV wrote: W0CP wrote: I've been disappointed with the audio output from my Heil proset headphones. I've got other headphones around that are more sensitive, but I like boom mic headphones. That's very strange. I have two original Heil Pro-Sets (not the Pro-Set Plus) which must be ~20 years old. On both the maximum I ever turn set AF gain to is 9-10 o'clock. I normally leave both Main and Sub AF set there and adjust RF Gain for a comfortable level. I wonder if your Heil headset might be 200 ohms impedance? I think mine are 32 ohms which the K3 is designed for and both work very well, as well as the Extreme Isolation EX-29 (32 ohms also) which is my current favorite for CW. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---How-to-get-more-headphone-output.-tp1506562p1507068.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.
Barry N1EU wrote: My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI Just FYI my AF GAIN is set to LO, and I still have plenty of gain. I'm not sure about the actual impedance of my Heils but I've never had any problems with a TS-930S, FT-1000MP, Orion or the K3. They were a little weak when used with my K2 however. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---How-to-get-more-headphone-output.-tp1506562p1507314.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
