Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration Question

2010-11-27 Thread Edward R. Cole
I use the K3 Freq. Memory Editor sw to program up to 99 memories with 
specific freq./modes for quick switching.  This is loaded via the 
RS232 port into the K3.  Then all I do to change bands/modes is to 
press MV and rotate VFO-A to select memories 00-99.  I have them 
grouped for favorite freq. in each band and mode: e.g.  51=14.020/CW, 
52=14.070/DATA, 53=14.205/USB, 54=14.292/USB, 55=14.345/USB, and 
56=15.000/AM ...etc.  There are enough memories for me to add 
favorite 6m, 2m, and 1296 freq./mode memories.  The last two bands 
require that the KV3A is set up using the XVn configuration settings 
(but that is another subject).


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[Elecraft] K3 Configuration Question

2010-11-26 Thread Larry Boekeloo
I have K3 #2808 that I purchased used about 6 months ago.  This week, I 
added the KAT3 antenna tuner and the 400 and 250 Hz 8-pole filters.  All
 I can say is WOW!!!

Now for my questionIs there a way to 
make the frequency follow the mode per band (or has this been discussed 
already and I missed it)?  For instance, if I was on 14.228 on USB and 
changed to CW where I was last at 14.005, is there a way to make it 
follow the mode for that band?  Then if I went to data where I was at 
14.080, can it go to that point?

Just curious if I missed something in the manual.

Have a great Thanksgiving weekend everyone.  I love my K3.

Larry, KN8N
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration Question

2010-11-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Larry,

As far as I know there is no way to do it the way you asked, but there 
IS another way - by using the memories.

If you use the Quick Memories, you can go to the last used frequency 
on any band - I set up my button 1 for 160 meters, 2 for 80, 3 for 40m, 
4 for 20 m, 5 for 15 m, 6 for 10 m - then 7 thru 9 cover the WARC bands 
30. 17, and 12 meters - lastly the 0 button covers 6 meters.  You can 
define any button to any band, there is no reason to use the same 
selections that I have.

Now the point is that once defined each button (press MV than the 
number button) can take you to any band - and it will remember the last 
used frequency (and mode) for both VFO A and VFO B.

Now let's go one step further and also use the M1 through M4 buttons - I 
have M1 set for a frequency in the CW section of the band, M2 for the 
common DATA mode frequency, M3 for SSB, and M4 can be yet another 
frequency of your choosing.
Once you are on any one band, these memory buttons can be used to skip 
from one place and mode quickly to another.

Yes, there are also 90 more memories that can be used as well.  And you 
can use macros to recall the memories if you want to get more exotic 
than just the normal K3 buttons - in fact you can also do the frequency, 
mode, (and most any other changes) through the use of macros - see the 
K3 Utility help file for examples.

There are many ways to accomplish your end goal, just pick the one(s) 
that appeal to you the most and use them  - even though it may not work 
like my last radio, the K3 provides the capability, it is just a matter 
of getting used to doing it the way the K3 accomplishes that goal.

The K3 user interface has been scrubbed first by a focus group mainly 
of contesters and DXers, and has been further changed by the votes of 
the Firmware Field Test group, and even further refined by comments of 
other users offered on the reflector.  So the capability is in the K3, 
and if you want to lobby (pleasantly) for your particular thought on 
how it should work, you are certainly invited to post to the reflector 
and see if you can find support for your idea - if there is enough, 
Wayne, Lyle and Eric are likely to make some changes if that is possible.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/26/2010 12:16 PM, Larry Boekeloo wrote:
 I have K3 #2808 that I purchased used about 6 months ago.  This week, I
 added the KAT3 antenna tuner and the 400 and 250 Hz 8-pole filters.  All
   I can say is WOW!!!

 Now for my questionIs there a way to
 make the frequency follow the mode per band (or has this been discussed
 already and I missed it)?  For instance, if I was on 14.228 on USB and
 changed to CW where I was last at 14.005, is there a way to make it
 follow the mode for that band?  Then if I went to data where I was at
 14.080, can it go to that point?

 Just curious if I missed something in the manual.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration Question

2010-11-26 Thread Rick Prather
Larry,

I think you can accomplish what you want by using the per-band quick memories 
as described on page 16 of the Owner's manual.

Memories M 1 – M 4 are per-band quick memories. For example, you might set up 
M 1 for each band’s CW segment, M 2 for the SSB segment, etc.

As an example, I have mine set so that M1 is CW, M2 SSB, M3 PSK and M4 RTTY.

GL,
Rick
K6LE

On 11/26/2010, at 9:16 , Larry Boekeloo wrote:

 I have K3 #2808 that I purchased used about 6 months ago.  This week, I 
 added the KAT3 antenna tuner and the 400 and 250 Hz 8-pole filters.  All
 I can say is WOW!!!
 
 Now for my questionIs there a way to 
 make the frequency follow the mode per band (or has this been discussed 
 already and I missed it)?  For instance, if I was on 14.228 on USB and 
 changed to CW where I was last at 14.005, is there a way to make it 
 follow the mode for that band?  Then if I went to data where I was at 
 14.080, can it go to that point?
 
 Just curious if I missed something in the manual.
 
 Have a great Thanksgiving weekend everyone.  I love my K3.
 
 Larry, KN8N

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[Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2009-07-29 Thread AB3EN

I would really appreciate help on getting the HRD DM780 interfaced with my
K3. I have a EMU 0202 sound card and decoding CW from the radio is fine. I
would like to get some help in getting the DM780 to send CW via the K3. I am
sure I have missed something real basic.

-

Dan AB3EN
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[Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Michael van Hauten
Hello elecrafters,
i ordered a K3 with the additional KBPF3 module for general Coverage. Do i need 
the additional AM Filter for listening to AM radiostations? or ist this AM 
Filter only neccessary for AM TX?
Thanks for your configuration support.

Michael, DC0ZO 
K2# 5619
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Brett Howard
You need it if you want to listen to an AM stations full bandwidth.
You'll not hear the entire transmitted signal without it.  You'll be
able to hear talk stations or something like that just fine but for
listening to music you'd probably find it lacking.  Hopefully this helps
you in making your decision.

On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 08:36 +0200, Michael van Hauten wrote:
 Hello elecrafters,
 i ordered a K3 with the additional KBPF3 module for general Coverage. Do i 
 need the additional AM Filter for listening to AM radiostations? or ist this 
 AM Filter only neccessary for AM TX?
 Thanks for your configuration support.
 
 Michael, DC0ZO 
 K2# 5619
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Planisky
I had the same thought when ordering my K3, but I chose the FM filter  
instead of the AM filter.  That will give me sufficient bandwidth for  
good quality AM RX as well as FM TX/RX.  It's more likely that I'll  
use FM TX on 10m or 6m than AM anywhere.


73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Sep 20, 2008, at 2:38 AM, Brett Howard wrote:


You need it if you want to listen to an AM stations full bandwidth.
You'll not hear the entire transmitted signal without it.  You'll be
able to hear talk stations or something like that just fine but for
listening to music you'd probably find it lacking.  Hopefully this  
helps

you in making your decision.

On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 08:36 +0200, Michael van Hauten wrote:

Hello elecrafters,
i ordered a K3 with the additional KBPF3 module for general  
Coverage. Do i need the additional AM Filter for listening to AM  
radiostations? or ist this AM Filter only neccessary for AM TX?

Thanks for your configuration support.

Michael, DC0ZO
K2# 5619


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 I had the same thought when ordering my K3, but I chose 
 the FM filter instead of the AM filter.  That will give 
 me sufficient bandwidth for good quality AM RX as well 
 as FM TX/RX.

Absolutely.  It is a shame that the K3 firmware currently 
blocks ESSB or AM transmit when the FM filter is installed 
in place of the AM filter.  Fortunately, if you're not using 
FM transmit,  it is possible to lie to the firmware and tell 
it FL1 is 6 KHz.   


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:09 AM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question
 
 
 I had the same thought when ordering my K3, but I chose the 
 FM filter  
 instead of the AM filter.  That will give me sufficient 
 bandwidth for  
 good quality AM RX as well as FM TX/RX.  It's more likely that I'll  
 use FM TX on 10m or 6m than AM anywhere.
 
 73
 --
 Joe KB8AP
 
 On Sep 20, 2008, at 2:38 AM, Brett Howard wrote:
 
  You need it if you want to listen to an AM stations full bandwidth. 
  You'll not hear the entire transmitted signal without it.  
 You'll be 
  able to hear talk stations or something like that just fine but for 
  listening to music you'd probably find it lacking.  Hopefully this
  helps
  you in making your decision.
 
  On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 08:36 +0200, Michael van Hauten wrote:
  Hello elecrafters,
  i ordered a K3 with the additional KBPF3 module for general
  Coverage. Do i need the additional AM Filter for listening to AM  
  radiostations? or ist this AM Filter only neccessary for AM TX?
  Thanks for your configuration support.
 
  Michael, DC0ZO
  K2# 5619
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Lyle Johnson
I had the same thought when ordering my K3, but I chose 
the FM filter instead of the AM filter.  That will give 
me sufficient bandwidth for good quality AM RX as well 
as FM TX/RX.


Absolutely.  It is a shame that the K3 firmware currently 
blocks ESSB or AM transmit when the FM filter is installed 
in place of the AM filter.  Fortunately, if you're not using 
FM transmit,  it is possible to lie to the firmware and tell 
it FL1 is 6 KHz.   


While you can do this, I suggest you not do so.

Here's why.

The K3 uses a DSP IF at 15 kHz.  The roofing filter is the primary means 
of suppressing the 15 kHz image on transmit and receive.  In wideband 
modes (ESSB, AM and FM), this is especially true.


The wider bandwidth of the 13 kHz FM filter results in poorer 
suppression of the image.  In the FM sub-bands, it is suppressed well 
within the definition of good engineering practice.  Further, FM is not 
considered to be a weak-signal mode.


SSB is often a weak signal mode, and ESSB and AM operations are 
typically within the image offset of potential weak signal operations. 
Thus, if you transmit in other than an FM sub-band using the FM filter, 
you risk interfering with nearby weak signal operation.


We are studying the use of the FM filter for such purposes, but we have 
not yet completed our characterization of the use of the FM filter for 
non-FM use.  When we do, and if the image suppression is sufficient to 
allow you to be a good neighbor when running your K3 to drive a legal 
limit amplifier such that the transmit image is in a nearby weak-signal 
area, we'll directly support its use in the K3 firmware.


Until then, please consider the potential interference you may cause if 
you use the FM filter in this manner.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 The K3 uses a DSP IF at 15 kHz.  The roofing filter is the 
 primary means of suppressing the 15 kHz image on transmit 
 and receive.  In wideband modes (ESSB, AM and FM), this is 
 especially true.

Let's see ... with a 15 KHz DSP IF, the image would be 30 KHz 
minus the modulating frequency (for AM) from the center of the 
transmit (roofing) filter.  Based on the specifications of 
Inrad's 8 and 9 MHz AM filters (8 pole) and their 7 MHz (6 
pole) front end filters (15 and 20 KHz wide at -1 dB), the 
FM filter's shape factor should be in the 1.6 to 1.8 range 
and the -60 dB bandwidth between 20 and 25 KHz.  Unless the 
filter or circuit layout has a major problem, the response 
should down at least 90 dB at +/- 15 KHz.  

With AM (worst case), assuming the carrier is centered in the 
filter and a highest modulating frequency of 4 KHz (K3 limit 
for ESSB), the image sideband is 26 KHz from the center of the 
(transmit) IF filter - well into the filter stopband. 

With an ultimate rejection of only 90 dB 25 KHz away from 
the center of the filter, the transmitted image from a 1500 
Watt (peak) amplifier will be 1.5 microwatts peak for an ESSB 
signal, 0.75 microwatts for the carrier of an AM signal or 
0.375 microwatts for the sideband of an AM signal.  90 dB of 
image rejection is more than 30 dB better than the 5th order 
IMD from most amateur 1500 watt amplifiers and 40 dB better 
than the K3's own 9th order IMD performance (ARRL measurements). 
 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:15 PM
 To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration question
 
 
  I had the same thought when ordering my K3, but I chose
  the FM filter instead of the AM filter.  That will give 
  me sufficient bandwidth for good quality AM RX as well 
  as FM TX/RX.
  
  Absolutely.  It is a shame that the K3 firmware currently
  blocks ESSB or AM transmit when the FM filter is installed 
  in place of the AM filter.  Fortunately, if you're not using 
  FM transmit,  it is possible to lie to the firmware and tell 
  it FL1 is 6 KHz.   
 
 While you can do this, I suggest you not do so.
 
 Here's why.
 
 The K3 uses a DSP IF at 15 kHz.  The roofing filter is the 
 primary means 
 of suppressing the 15 kHz image on transmit and receive.  In wideband 
 modes (ESSB, AM and FM), this is especially true.
 
 The wider bandwidth of the 13 kHz FM filter results in poorer 
 suppression of the image.  In the FM sub-bands, it is suppressed well 
 within the definition of good engineering practice.  Further, 
 FM is not 
 considered to be a weak-signal mode.
 
 SSB is often a weak signal mode, and ESSB and AM operations are 
 typically within the image offset of potential weak signal 
 operations. 
 Thus, if you transmit in other than an FM sub-band using the 
 FM filter, 
 you risk interfering with nearby weak signal operation.
 
 We are studying the use of the FM filter for such purposes, 
 but we have 
 not yet completed our characterization of the use of the FM 
 filter for 
 non-FM use.  When we do, and if the image suppression is 
 sufficient to 
 allow you to be a good neighbor when running your K3 to 
 drive a legal 
 limit amplifier such that the transmit image is in a nearby 
 weak-signal 
 area, we'll directly support its use in the K3 firmware.
 
 Until then, please consider the potential interference you 
 may cause if 
 you use the FM filter in this manner.
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
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