Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-17 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
Per page 31 of the K3 owners manual sez

DATA A can be used for all audio-shift transmission modes, including AFSK and 
PSK-31. VFO A shows the transmit suppressed carrier frequency and USB is normal 
for DATA A. Compression is automatically set to 0 to reduce transmitted signal 
distortion.

AFSK A is also an audio-shift transmission but is optimized for RTTY. VFO A 
displays the RTTY mark frequency and LSB is normal. The built-in text decoder 
and the dual-passband RTTY filter can be used.

73, Mike NF4L
 
 On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:41, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:
 
 Can you 'splain the difference between AFSK and DATA A?  I have been running 
 RTTY in AFSK using MMTTY and the sound in/out from my radio laptop.  Just 
 two stereo cables using LINE IN/OUT on the back of the K3, no other interface 
 hardware.  VOX for PTT.  It seems to work fine, am I missing something?
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org
 
 On 3/16/2015 7:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Sam,
 
 You are doing it right.
 
 DATA A mode is like SSB with the following exceptions:
 1) TX EQ is disabled in DATA A mode
 2) Audio compression is disabled in DATA A mode.
 3) one can set the audio input to LINE IN for DATA A mode - no need to
 change it from MIC audio when using data modes.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Can you 'splain the difference between AFSK and DATA A?  I have been 
running RTTY in AFSK using MMTTY and the sound in/out from my radio 
laptop.  Just two stereo cables using LINE IN/OUT on the back of the 
K3, no other interface hardware.  VOX for PTT.  It seems to work fine, 
am I missing something?


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 3/16/2015 7:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Sam,

You are doing it right.

DATA A mode is like SSB with the following exceptions:
1) TX EQ is disabled in DATA A mode
2) Audio compression is disabled in DATA A mode.
3) one can set the audio input to LINE IN for DATA A mode - no need to
change it from MIC audio when using data modes.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 2015-03-17 12:41 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 Can you 'splain the difference between AFSK and DATA A?

AFSK A and DATA A are both audio modes.  AFSK A uses LSB
and FC is set to MARK - 85 Hz (the center of the two RTTY
Tones).  DATA A is USB and FC is set to 1500 Hz (the center
of the transmit audio passband [200 - 2800 Hz]).

AFSK A also allows use of the AFSK transmit filter (a tight
filter around the Mark/Space tones to eliminate hum/pops/etc.)
and the use of the Dual Tone filter on receive.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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[Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-16 Thread Sam Morgan
I have been running DATA A with my SignaLink USB for JT65  JT9 using 
WSJT-X. However I am now having some problems (interfacing with other 
rig control software) that are making me question why I settled on DATA 
A rather than USB?


Other than the fact DATA A inherently eliminates all potential audio 
settings that might cause problems if USB was used, which seems like a 
big plus to me.


Are there any other reasons why DATA A is preferred for the data modes?

I have run DATA A successfully for at least 5-6 years and being a 
creature of habit, I hate to switch to USB unless I am forced to.


Anyone have convincing arguments pro or con about this question I am 
willing to hear them.


P.S.
I also use DATA A with Fldigi for PSK/RTTY/Olivia/etc


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K5OAI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-16 Thread Matt VK2RQ
You can use DATA-A to do LSB too. I do this when I set up the KX3 for packet 
radio, because it places the LO just nicely so I can also monitor the local CW 
calling channel and my club's SSB frequency, using a separate SDR app on my PC.

73, Matt VK2RQ

 On 17 Mar 2015, at 12:04 pm, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 
 On Mon,3/16/2015 5:43 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
 I have run DATA A successfully for at least 5-6 years and being a creature 
 of habit, I hate to switch to USB unless I am forced to.
 
 Hi Sam,
 
 I can't think of a single good reason to use USB for data modes. Stick with 
 DATA A, which IS optimized for all the data modes except AFSK (and that's 
 because AFSK RTTY uses LSB).
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-16 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,3/16/2015 5:43 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
I have run DATA A successfully for at least 5-6 years and being a 
creature of habit, I hate to switch to USB unless I am forced to.


Hi Sam,

I can't think of a single good reason to use USB for data modes. Stick 
with DATA A, which IS optimized for all the data modes except AFSK (and 
that's because AFSK RTTY uses LSB).


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs USB for JT65/JT9

2015-03-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sam,

You are doing it right.

DATA A mode is like SSB with the following exceptions:
1) TX EQ is disabled in DATA A mode
2) Audio compression is disabled in DATA A mode.
3) one can set the audio input to LINE IN for DATA A mode - no need to 
change it from MIC audio when using data modes.


Either of those conditions may be present in SSB mode, and the first 2 
will distort a data mode signal.  So the answer is to use DATA A mode 
instead of SSB so you do not have to manually turn off those 2 
conditions when running data modes in SSB mode.
Unfortunately, some data mode software does not include recognition of 
the K3/KX3 DATA A mode and will force the rig to SSB mode.  Be watchful 
of that condition and respond accordingly.


The K3 offers a seamless solution to the use of both SSB and Data modes 
and is beneficial as long as you do not have to fight with the data 
mode software application to get that to happen.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/16/2015 8:43 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
I have been running DATA A with my SignaLink USB for JT65  JT9 using 
WSJT-X. However I am now having some problems (interfacing with other 
rig control software) that are making me question why I settled on 
DATA A rather than USB?


Other than the fact DATA A inherently eliminates all potential audio 
settings that might cause problems if USB was used, which seems like a 
big plus to me.


Are there any other reasons why DATA A is preferred for the data modes?

I have run DATA A successfully for at least 5-6 years and being a 
creature of habit, I hate to switch to USB unless I am forced to.


Anyone have convincing arguments pro or con about this question I am 
willing to hear them.


P.S.
I also use DATA A with Fldigi for PSK/RTTY/Olivia/etc




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