Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Ha...never thought of that one. I guess it could. Zero $. Of course, one would have to try it. 73 Tom -Original Message- From: Richard Ferch Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:09 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question Tom, a question for you. He already has a KX3 with IQ outputs. Could he tune the KX3 to the K3's IF at 8215 kHz, connect it to the K3's IF Out jack, and use it as the SDR for his spectrum display with the K3? Thanks for correcting me on the ExtIO business. 73, Rich VE3KI Tom wrote: Your options are as follows: First you need the IF output from your K3. Win4K3 does not support an RX antenna solution on the K3. However, you can use another spectrum display product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3. You would have to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during transmit. Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are supported in Win4K3. There is no support for EXT_IO drivers. Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest the LPPAN unit. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Tom, a question for you. He already has a KX3 with IQ outputs. Could he tune the KX3 to the K3's IF at 8215 kHz, connect it to the K3's IF Out jack, and use it as the SDR for his spectrum display with the K3? Thanks for correcting me on the ExtIO business. 73, Rich VE3KI Tom wrote: Your options are as follows: First you need the IF output from your K3. Win4K3 does not support an RX antenna solution on the K3. However, you can use another spectrum display product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3. You would have to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during transmit. Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are supported in Win4K3. There is no support for EXT_IO drivers. Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest the LPPAN unit. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Hi, Your options are as follows: First you need the IF output from your K3. Win4K3 does not support an RX antenna solution on the K3. However, you can use another spectrum display product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3. You would have to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during transmit. Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are supported in Win4K3. There is no support for EXT_IO drivers. Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest the LPPAN unit. Please feel free to join the group https://groups.io/g/win4k3suite. The group is just starting up. 73 Tom va2fsq.com -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF. As an alternative, you will need an IF to I/Q conversion device (SoftRock, LP-Pan, etc.) and a sound card capable of 96KHz sample rate (preferably 24 bit). The SDR (e.g., the basic SDRPlay RSP) is probably less expensive than the I/Q demodulator/high end sound card option these days but if one already has a suitable sound card, the demodulator might work. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna tuners, FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly needed by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not needed to operate with Win4K3Suite. In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the KUSB - but not the KXUSB). You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF. You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and Out, and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100% necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display. If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3. There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation. 73, Rich VE3KI N7TB wrote: I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I have interfaced to Win4K3Suite. The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back, one ACC and one DATA. I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in order to get the spectrum scope to work. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: > You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF. As an alternative, you will need an IF to I/Q conversion device (SoftRock, LP-Pan, etc.) and a sound card capable of 96KHz sample rate (preferably 24 bit). The SDR (e.g., the basic SDRPlay RSP) is probably less expensive than the I/Q demodulator/high end sound card option these days but if one already has a suitable sound card, the demodulator might work. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna tuners, FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly needed by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not needed to operate with Win4K3Suite. In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the KUSB - but not the KXUSB). You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF. You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and Out, and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100% necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display. If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3. There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation. 73, Rich VE3KI N7TB wrote: I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I have interfaced to Win4K3Suite. The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back, one ACC and one DATA. I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in order to get the spectrum scope to work. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna tuners, FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly needed by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not needed to operate with Win4K3Suite. In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the KUSB - but not the KXUSB). You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF. You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and Out, and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100% necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display. If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3. There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation. 73, Rich VE3KI N7TB wrote: I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I have interfaced to Win4K3Suite. The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back, one ACC and one DATA. I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in order to get the spectrum scope to work. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
I use win4k3 as my rig control. I use the macros window to control other things. It also has the ability work with AC LOG which is my favorite logging software. It also works with other digital software. I use the small rig control window. The only thing I wish it had was adjustable window sizes. Great software. I am not an employee or paid by them. Just my opinion . 73 Gerald From: Barry Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:34 AM To: Terry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question Terry, All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for the radio just as you did for the KX3. BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this reflector. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Terry" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question >I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I >have >interfaced to Win4K3Suite. > >The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the >back, >one ACC and one DATA. > >I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use >the >spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. > >What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in >order to get the spectrum scope to work. > >Thanks and 73's, > >Terry, N7TB > > > >-- >Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kc6...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
No! The KX3 has I analog data coming out of the side of the radio already. All that is needed is to feed an external sound card that data, and then, tell Win4K3 what the spectrum source is, pretty straight forward. I find the KX3 setup easier and less complex than the K3. With the K3, you need either a SDRPlay or a LP Pan to baseband the IF and develop the I analog data needed. Wayne essentially designed that in the KX3. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Dave Scarfe" To: barrylaz...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 10/30/2018 9:51:42 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question Does not require an SDR, like an SDRPlay? 73, de VE5UO On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:33 AM Barry wrote: Terry, All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for the radio just as you did for the KX3. BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this reflector. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Terry" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question >I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I >have >interfaced to Win4K3Suite. > >The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the >back, >one ACC and one DATA. > >I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use >the >spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. > >What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in >order to get the spectrum scope to work. > >Thanks and 73's, > >Terry, N7TB > > > >-- >Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dave.sca...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Does not require an SDR, like an SDRPlay? 73, de VE5UO On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:33 AM Barry wrote: > Terry, > All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. > Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the > data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the > computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer > side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for > the radio just as you did for the KX3. > > BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There > were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run > into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this > reflector. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Terry" > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question > > >I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I > >have > >interfaced to Win4K3Suite. > > > >The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the > >back, > >one ACC and one DATA. > > > >I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use > >the > >spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. > > > >What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in > >order to get the spectrum scope to work. > > > >Thanks and 73's, > > > >Terry, N7TB > > > > > > > >-- > >Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > >__ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.sca...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Terry, All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for the radio just as you did for the KX3. BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this reflector. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Terry" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I have interfaced to Win4K3Suite. The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back, one ACC and one DATA. I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in order to get the spectrum scope to work. Thanks and 73's, Terry, N7TB -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
I am looking to purchase a preowned K3. I currently own a KX3 that I have interfaced to Win4K3Suite. The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back, one ACC and one DATA. I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me. What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in order to get the spectrum scope to work. Thanks and 73's, Terry, N7TB -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
