Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
I went to Bonaire NA and participated with the PJ4E Group in the 2008 CQWWSSB Contest. I took my K3 and accessories in a hard-shell Porter brand carry-on case. This is a excellent case, has wheels and handle for pulling along, and it will fold down to accommodate other cases to be on top as you pull it along. Great for having to go from one end of the airport to another for your gate. I beforehand took it to a place who foamed to fit all pieces in the case. I found not too much difference in the US airports than the airports in the Caribbean. Some asked what it was, some had enough experience to know or ask if it was Ham Radio equip. It was dusted once on return to Miami. I was told that was because I failed to place it in a rubber tub alone that time. Go figure. However, the airport security people in all cases were polite. The biggest hassle for me was to unload all the gear into the separate tubs, and as well my personal items, trying not to hold up the line behind me. But the way the world is now, it is a necessary thing in order to protect us. My K3 performed magnificently in the contest. Roy Davis - WK4Y K3 #1366 - Original Message - From: Jeff Kinzli N6GQ j...@n6gq.com To: Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Two K3s as Carry-on Luggage On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 17:58, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Ed W0YK wrote: Most of the X-ray ops ID a K3 as a slide projector, which is fine with me. Ed - P49X (W0YK) One thoroughly inspected my KX1 and K2 at SFO, then as he was packing it back up, said, Good DX. I've taken my K3 as carry-on through numerous airports, without fail, it always gets looked at, swabbed, and then they let me go...I guess I have the thug look or something. Jeff N6GQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1871 - Release Date: 1/1/2009 5:01 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
So, some thoughts please. If I take my K3 in carry-on, should I remove it from the carry on and place in a tray and explain what it is? Going from England (Gatwick) to France (Toulouse) just before xmas, it took my family 1 hour to get through security - they were checking everything - take of boots with high heels, belts of any kind, close search after you'd gone though the scanner, checking bags the lot. Coming out of France was much the same, except no queue. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why should I fear that which cannot exist when I do? -Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE) On 2 Jan 2009, at 11:13, Roy Davis wrote: I went to Bonaire NA and participated with the PJ4E Group in the 2008 CQWWSSB Contest. I took my K3 and accessories in a hard-shell Porter brand carry-on case. This is a excellent case, has wheels and handle for pulling along, and it will fold down to accommodate other cases to be on top as you pull it along. Great for having to go from one end of the airport to another for your gate. I beforehand took it to a place who foamed to fit all pieces in the case. I found not too much difference in the US airports than the airports in the Caribbean. Some asked what it was, some had enough experience to know or ask if it was Ham Radio equip. It was dusted once on return to Miami. I was told that was because I failed to place it in a rubber tub alone that time. Go figure. However, the airport security people in all cases were polite. The biggest hassle for me was to unload all the gear into the separate tubs, and as well my personal items, trying not to hold up the line behind me. But the way the world is now, it is a necessary thing in order to protect us. My K3 performed magnificently in the contest. Roy Davis - WK4Y K3 #1366 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
I travelled internationally with my K3 back in 2007 as carryon. I had the K3, power supply and some cables in a case that fit under the seat. No questions asked, nothing removed or demonstrated. I have also travelled internationally with my KX1, no questions asked. Just remove the batteries as I think that there is some restriction on carryon batteries or something like that. Plus, you don't want it to go on accidentally. At 1/2/2009 06:54 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: So, some thoughts please. If I take my K3 in carry-on, should I remove it from the carry on and place in a tray and explain what it is? Going from England (Gatwick) to France (Toulouse) just before xmas, it took my family 1 hour to get through security - they were checking everything - take of boots with high heels, belts of any kind, close search after you'd gone though the scanner, checking bags the lot. Coming out of France was much the same, except no queue. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why should I fear that which cannot exist when I do? -Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE) On 2 Jan 2009, at 11:13, Roy Davis wrote: I went to Bonaire NA and participated with the PJ4E Group in the 2008 CQWWSSB Contest. I took my K3 and accessories in a hard-shell Porter brand carry-on case. This is a excellent case, has wheels and handle for pulling along, and it will fold down to accommodate other cases to be on top as you pull it along. Great for having to go from one end of the airport to another for your gate. I beforehand took it to a place who foamed to fit all pieces in the case. I found not too much difference in the US airports than the airports in the Caribbean. Some asked what it was, some had enough experience to know or ask if it was Ham Radio equip. It was dusted once on return to Miami. I was told that was because I failed to place it in a rubber tub alone that time. Go figure. However, the airport security people in all cases were polite. The biggest hassle for me was to unload all the gear into the separate tubs, and as well my personal items, trying not to hold up the line behind me. But the way the world is now, it is a necessary thing in order to protect us. My K3 performed magnificently in the contest. Roy Davis - WK4Y K3 #1366 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
Thanks all for the responses- pretty much as I thought. I can see me doing something to fit out my STD carry on bag so I can carry the K3, it's (small) SMPSU and a few other bits and pieces and figure out how to make that easy to unpack etc. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. -Lord Acton, historian (1834-1902) On 2 Jan 2009, at 13:04, Robert Naumann wrote: David, The short answer is: yes. Anything electronic should be taken out and placed into a tray - alone - so they can see and not fear it. They don't care that it is a ham radio - it could be a piece of test equipment for all they know. As long as you let them see it and send it through the scanner uncovered, all should be well. They might want to swab it, but that only slows you down for a minute or two. Be patient and calm throughout the ordeal. I have travelled all over with my Kenwood TS850, Icom 756 ProIII and soon to be K3 and have never had any problems by doing this - all since 9/11. Take the user manual with you in your carry on in case they ask for proof of what it is. I brought my Acom 2000A amplifier to Antigua a few years ago and I carried the power transformer in a bowling ball bag. The amp was in its shipping carton as checked baggage. Miami airport security did not want me to carry-on the transformer and insisted that I had to check it. I was persistent, and they finally let me take it on board after explaining to a supervisor what it was and why it was removed from the rest of the amplifier by showing the manual and photos of the whole thing. Every airport I have been through since 9/11 has required the removal of shoes - I think this followed the one guy who got caught with some explosive in his shoes shortly after 9/11. 73, Bob W5OV / V26O -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 5:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage So, some thoughts please. If I take my K3 in carry-on, should I remove it from the carry on and place in a tray and explain what it is? Going from England (Gatwick) to France (Toulouse) just before xmas, it took my family 1 hour to get through security - they were checking everything - take of boots with high heels, belts of any kind, close search after you'd gone though the scanner, checking bags the lot. Coming out of France was much the same, except no queue. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
Hello David, others There have been several who have purchased one of Rose's K2 or K3 bags that do place them inside other baggage. There is a Pelican case that is almost a perfect fit for a K3 in it's bag. Her first carry case was made specifically to fit inside another piece of carry-on luggage and there were no straps or handles on it. 73! Ken elecraftcov...@rfwave.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage
David, I've taken my K3 to Aruba several times. I put it in my backpack cushioned with bubble wrap and maybe a towel or some clothing. I just put the backpack on the conveyor belt to start with. I sometimes have to remove it for separate handling (only at SFO) and sometimes not. But no one has ever asked any questions about it or thought it to be suspicious. 73, andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in Carry-on Luggage So, some thoughts please. If I take my K3 in carry-on, should I remove it from the carry on and place in a tray and explain what it is? Going from England (Gatwick) to France (Toulouse) just before xmas, it took my family 1 hour to get through security - they were checking everything - take of boots with high heels, belts of any kind, close search after you'd gone though the scanner, checking bags the lot. Coming out of France was much the same, except no queue. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why should I fear that which cannot exist when I do? -Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE) On 2 Jan 2009, at 11:13, Roy Davis wrote: I went to Bonaire NA and participated with the PJ4E Group in the 2008 CQWWSSB Contest. I took my K3 and accessories in a hard-shell Porter brand carry-on case. This is a excellent case, has wheels and handle for pulling along, and it will fold down to accommodate other cases to be on top as you pull it along. Great for having to go from one end of the airport to another for your gate. I beforehand took it to a place who foamed to fit all pieces in the case. I found not too much difference in the US airports than the airports in the Caribbean. Some asked what it was, some had enough experience to know or ask if it was Ham Radio equip. It was dusted once on return to Miami. I was told that was because I failed to place it in a rubber tub alone that time. Go figure. However, the airport security people in all cases were polite. The biggest hassle for me was to unload all the gear into the separate tubs, and as well my personal items, trying not to hold up the line behind me. But the way the world is now, it is a necessary thing in order to protect us. My K3 performed magnificently in the contest. Roy Davis - WK4Y K3 #1366 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
