Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
Make sure you are using only one PTT method. CAT or VOX but never both. I prefer CAT as any signal or any noise on the audio line will trip the VOX and thus hold it in transmit. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still didn't go into > receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC BIAS was already off.) > > Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten worse. Sometimes > pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't take it out of transmit mode. > When I press it it stays in transmit. Press it again and it still is in > transmit. It finally goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase. > > I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is actually > happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s source code and start > reading code again. But that's what I retired from years ago. :-) > > 73 Bill AE6JV > >> On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, r...@mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote: >> >> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as >> well. >> >> Should MIC BIAS be off as well? >> >> 73 Robert K7RNA >> >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: >>> >>> I have the same behavior: >>> KX3 >>> PX3 >>> SignaLink >>> MacBook Pro >>> CAT interface >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the >> K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With >> the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has >> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get >> it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out >> of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio. Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the >> wsjt-x UI, work correctly. The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S. The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a >> mini-dongle USB sound "card". The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. Has anyone else experienced this issue? 73 Bill AE6JV - Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to fra...@pwpconsult.com >> > --- > Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com |- Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still didn't go into receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC BIAS was already off.) Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten worse. Sometimes pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't take it out of transmit mode. When I press it it stays in transmit. Press it again and it still is in transmit. It finally goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase. I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is actually happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s source code and start reading code again. But that's what I retired from years ago. :-) 73 Bill AE6JV On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, r...@mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote: Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well. Should MIC BIAS be off as well? 73 Robert K7RNA On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: I have the same behavior: KX3 PX3 SignaLink MacBook Pro CAT interface On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio. Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S. The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. Has anyone else experienced this issue? 73 Bill AE6JV - Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fra...@pwpconsult.com --- Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |- Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
It is not disabled automatically in Data A mode. I have looked and if I don’t set it purposefully it will remain at the last setting per band. I have macros that I use to toggle between voice operation and digital modes. I set the mic bias and mic btn menu items accordingly. Happy to proven wrong as I could then shorten my macros. But I have experimented and what I have written is based on my observations of the menu settings. Also, I found nothing in the KX3 operation manual to indicate mic bias or btn are disabled on Data A mode. Regards Brian VE3IBW On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:30 AM Walter Underwood wrote: > I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might > be wrong. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > > > MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias > has NO other use. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano wrote: > >> > >> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 > as well. > >> > >> Should MIC BIAS be off as well? > >> > >> 73 Robert K7RNA > >> > >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: > >>> > >>> I have the same behavior: > >>> KX3 > >>> PX3 > >>> SignaLink > >>> MacBook Pro > >>> CAT interface > >>> > On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz > wrote: > > I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and > KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops > transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit > mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the > "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the > CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is > not being processed by the radio. > > Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, > like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. > > The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface > from the K3S. > > The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew > audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". > > The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. > > Has anyone else experienced this issue? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > - > Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, > it is force; like > 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful > master. Never for a > www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible > action. Geo Washington > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com > >>> > >>> __ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com > >> > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterwo...@gmail.com > __
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might be wrong. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has > NO other use. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano wrote: >> >> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as >> well. >> >> Should MIC BIAS be off as well? >> >> 73 Robert K7RNA >> >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: >>> >>> I have the same behavior: >>> KX3 >>> PX3 >>> SignaLink >>> MacBook Pro >>> CAT interface >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio. Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S. The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. Has anyone else experienced this issue? 73 Bill AE6JV - Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
Yes, use only method for PTT. Either CAT or VOX, but never both. I prefer CAT as, for digital operation, I don't have to mess with the VOX values for my normal SSB operation. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 10/20/2018 6:52 PM, Nr4c wrote: Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface and VOX settings. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3? On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz wrote: I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio. Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S. The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. Has anyone else experienced this issue? 73 Bill AE6JV - Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support thi __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has NO other use. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano wrote: > > Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well. > > Should MIC BIAS be off as well? > > 73 Robert K7RNA > >> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: >> >> I have the same behavior: >> KX3 >> PX3 >> SignaLink >> MacBook Pro >> CAT interface >> >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >>> >>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work >>> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission >>> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although >>> the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button >>> on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to >>> take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being >>> processed by the radio. >>> >>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like >>> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. >>> >>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from >>> the K3S. >>> >>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio >>> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". >>> >>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. >>> >>> Has anyone else experienced this issue? >>> >>> 73 Bill AE6JV >>> >>> - >>> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is >>> force; like >>> 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. >>> Never for a >>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo >>> Washington >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface and VOX settings. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: > > What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3? > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 >> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button >> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the >> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has >> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the >> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT >> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent >> or is not being processed by the radio. >> >> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT >> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. >> >> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 >> interface from the K3S. >> >> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home >> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". >> >> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. >> >> Has anyone else experienced this issue? >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> >> - >> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not >> eloquence, it is force; like >> 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful >> master. Never for a >> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible >> action. Geo Washington >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us >> > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support thi __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem. Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well. Should MIC BIAS be off as well? 73 Robert K7RNA > On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano wrote: > > I have the same behavior: > KX3 > PX3 > SignaLink > MacBook Pro > CAT interface > >> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work >> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission >> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the >> computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the >> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take >> the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by >> the radio. >> >> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like >> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. >> >> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the >> K3S. >> >> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio >> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". >> >> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. >> >> Has anyone else experienced this issue? >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> - >> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is >> force; like >> 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. >> Never for a >> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo >> Washington >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
I have the same behavior: KX3 PX3 SignaLink MacBook Pro CAT interface > On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work > with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission > on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the > computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the > radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the > radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the > radio. > > Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like > changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. > > The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the > K3S. > > The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio > interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". > > The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. > > Has anyone else experienced this issue? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > - > Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is > force; like > 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. > Never for a > www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo > Washington > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@mosslight.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3? On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz wrote: > I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 > and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button > immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the > radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has > stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the > radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT > command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent > or is not being processed by the radio. > > Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT > interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. > > The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 > interface from the K3S. > > The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home > brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". > > The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. > > Has anyone else experienced this issue? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > - > Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not > eloquence, it is force; like > 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful > master. Never for a > www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible > action. Geo Washington > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio. Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly. The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S. The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card". The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro. Has anyone else experienced this issue? 73 Bill AE6JV - Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-356-8506 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
I'm coming late to this party (thread), but I want to object to the implication that the K3 must be reaching the end of development. There are two ways to pay for development. Either you charge for enhancements to old products, or you come out with new ones. I once suggested to Wayne that he charge for new features after some point. The response singed my eyebrows! This is /never/ going to happen. So I am always surprised that Elecraft continues to improve the K3 -- more than just providing support for it -- despite the fact that it is an 'old' product. This is very different from what other manufacturers do. But it's understandable that most of the effort goes into new products. Nevertheless I am looking forward to continued enhancement of the K3. There are certainly areas in which it can be improved, even though it already is one of the top performing amateur transceivers available at any price. The KX3 is an impressive piece of engineering, but although nobody stops you from using it in a fixed station, it is best adapted to use as a field rig. Personally, I didn't buy one because I have an emotional attachment to my old K2 for that purpose! On 1/21/2014 3:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: On 1/21/2014 3:00 PM, Gary Smith wrote: So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? The K3 is approaching maturity as a product, just as the K2 did. S/N's are now in the high thousands, we'll probably see occasional FW releases, but it is a very stable product. The KX3 [+accessories] is the new kid on the block, and thus gets most of the attention. Elecraft will hopefully announce a new, different product [Kmumble], at which point, you will be asking, Why the love fest with the Kmumble and so little heard now about the KX3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Vic __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
I must agree I love my KX3 but it lacks many things that I have come to expect with my K3. It is impossible to place all the features of a K3 into such a small package the size of a KX3. That said I would give up neither as both at the top of the transceiver lists and I have no plans on going back to my old FTDX-5000MP or IC-703+ either, both fine radios. All that with the fact that Elecraft supports its product line like no other company period. Coupled with their design team, engineers and owners make an unmatched company in our hobby. 73, Fred N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Petiford Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:49 PM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3 Gary, The missions of the two radios are quite different. I can toss the KX3 into my daypack with some wire for a simple antenna, and I am off to the park or a nearby wilderness area for a nice day in the field. That is a one box solution (transceiver, batteries, antenna tuner, etc.) that is about the size of a brick, but much lighter. That is what it is designed to do. That is why I bought one. I had considered a K3 for a long time, but just couldn't see putting that much money into a radio that would sit on a desk most of the time. From the moment I saw the first announcement for the KX3, I knew it was the radio for me. The design team at Elecraft worked hard to get a high performance transceiver into a trail friendly package, and what a nice package it is. At home or in my car, I can hook it up to the KXPA100 and have a nice 100w station in two small boxes including antenna tuner.Same basic radio, same controls. That I why I will be buying a KXPA100. Re: ...and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? That is not a bad reflection on the K3, but as a different poster said, represents its more mature stage of development. You don't hear as much about the K2 now, and even less about the K1 and KX1 for the same reason. So enjoy your K3. It will not be replaced by the KX3, nor will the K3 replace the KX3. This old dinosaur is very thankful that he can still get out and walk, and the KX3 is the perfect fit. When I can no longer walk, you will see me headed down the sidewalk on my hover round scooter with my KX3 attached and my homebrew magnetic loop antenna sticking up, headed for the nearest park. What a sight! ;-) Mark KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
On 1/22/2014 9:18 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: I'm coming late to this party (thread), but I want to object to the implication that the K3 must be reaching the end of development. Did not mean to suggest that Vic. What *has* happened is that the K3 has been on the market for multiple years now [mine is S/N 642, they're currently shipping in the high thousands], most if not all of the planned but not yet implemented items have now been implemented, most of the bugs/problems/anomalies have been addressed, many of the feature requests have been taken care of, and the set of accessories is complete. While I'm sure that there will continue to be updates, they will be at a more measured pace as they have been recently. The K3 seems to meet all the requirements of a mature product, and consequently, traffic on the list about it decreases, just as it did for the KX1, K1, and K2. The original post asked why the list seems to be All KX3, All the time. That's the reason and it's normal product evolution. The KX3 is an impressive piece of engineering, but although nobody stops you from using it in a fixed station, it is best adapted to use as a field rig. Personally, I didn't buy one because I have an emotional attachment to my old K2 for that purpose! Me too! And if I really need to go light, I always have my KX1. I used NU6T's K1 on a SOTA activation a couple of years ago. If my wife keeps on buying needlepoint stuff ... equal hobby allowance policy ... I'll have enough in my radio account to get one of those -- a really neat little field radio. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Early this month I sent my K3 in for upgrades and updates, it is on its way back right now. I put the kit together in 08 and understand it is now modified to be up-to-date with the new off the shelf K3s. I won't mention the cost involved, only to say it was absolutely reasonable and that it is really amazing to find such dedication from a company to their product line. I remember my first radio when I was a ham; it was a brand new TS-820S and it was nothing but trouble from the first week I had it. Kenwood would not stand behind their errors and found excuses for not covering the problems caused by myriad cold soldered joints. I even asked a Japanese friend to write to Trio-Kenwood directly for me to get help and was given the cold shoulder and they would not warranty it. That was 1979 and I have never bought anything Kenwood ever since and I never will again. Elecraft on the other hand has been nothing but helpful and willing to go overboard to help me with any question and resolve any issue I have ever had. I will be a life-long customer of Elecraft because of this. I appreciate the quality of their equipment and I appreciate the dignity they give me as a customer. Gary KA1J I'm coming late to this party (thread), but I want to object to the implication that the K3 must be reaching the end of development. There are two ways to pay for development. Either you charge for enhancements to old products, or you come out with new ones. I once suggested to Wayne that he charge for new features after some point. The response singed my eyebrows! This is /never/ going to happen. So I am always surprised that Elecraft continues to improve the K3 -- more than just providing support for it -- despite the fact that it is an 'old' product. This is very different from what other manufacturers do. But it's understandable that most of the effort goes into new products. Nevertheless I am looking forward to continued enhancement of the K3. There are certainly areas in which it can be improved, even though it already is one of the top performing amateur transceivers available at any price. The KX3 is an impressive piece of engineering, but although nobody stops you from using it in a fixed station, it is best adapted to use as a field rig. Personally, I didn't buy one because I have an emotional attachment to my old K2 for that purpose! On 1/21/2014 3:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: On 1/21/2014 3:00 PM, Gary Smith wrote: So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? The K3 is approaching maturity as a product, just as the K2 did. S/N's are now in the high thousands, we'll probably see occasional FW releases, but it is a very stable product. The KX3 [+accessories] is the new kid on the block, and thus gets most of the attention. Elecraft will hopefully announce a new, different product [Kmumble], at which point, you will be asking, Why the love fest with the Kmumble and so little heard now about the KX3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Vic __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
I'm a dinosaur that is teachable. I have a K3 and on the reflector I am seeing sooo many posts about the KX3: It is smaller, has a small bit of Rx tech that is the most miniscule amount above the stats on the K3 and appears to be small enough that all but the .01% of the aurally gifted could detect. There is far more that the K3 offers than the KX3; to buy the KX3 add-ons to give you 100 watts and the external tuner to handle that smoothly, you have a chain of equipment that is all in one box in the K3 and for pretty much the same price. So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? Dinosaur ears albeit tiny, are dying to know. Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
On 1/21/2014 3:00 PM, Gary Smith wrote: So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? The K3 is approaching maturity as a product, just as the K2 did. S/N's are now in the high thousands, we'll probably see occasional FW releases, but it is a very stable product. The KX3 [+accessories] is the new kid on the block, and thus gets most of the attention. Elecraft will hopefully announce a new, different product [Kmumble], at which point, you will be asking, Why the love fest with the Kmumble and so little heard now about the KX3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Hi Gary, This Reflector follows the new rigs Wayne, Eric, and Company provide. As they mature the volume of email drops for each device. Little is heard of the K2, the K1, the KX1, and all the mini module kits because they have matured to the point where little about them changes. However, your words I'm a dinosaur reminds me of King Crimson's tune of the same name. It was meant to be a funny take on I am a Walrus (the walrus was Paul) even though the Walrus was obviously the partner of the Carpenter (poor oysters :( ). You can find the tune here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c-VYR9p4K0 Good luck on your continuing Elecraft education. Kevin. KD5ONS I'm a dinosaur that is teachable. I have a K3 and on the reflector I am seeing sooo many posts about the KX3: It is smaller, has a small bit of Rx tech that is the most miniscule amount above the stats on the K3 and appears to be small enough that all but the .01% of the aurally gifted could detect. There is far more that the K3 offers than the KX3; to buy the KX3 add-ons to give you 100 watts and the external tuner to handle that smoothly, you have a chain of equipment that is all in one box in the K3 and for pretty much the same price. So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? Dinosaur ears albeit tiny, are dying to know. Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
On 1/21/2014 3:00 PM, Gary Smith wrote: So why the love fest with the KX3 and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? I don't yet own one (have been waiting for the 100W amp), but I think that the KX3 is one of the slickest radios around. Why? Because for $1,000 you have a state of the art QRP rig with an RX as good as anything else on the market. For another $1,000 you have a 100W radio that is VERY VERY good, and is equally at home as a mobile rig and in a ham shack. In either application, the operating desk (or dashboard) only needs to hold the KX3, which is only slightly larger than the detachable head of most rigs that have them. And an argument could be made that performance is best in its price class. What do you lose (as compared to a K3)? 1) TX phase noise that's in the range of the best of the other radios in the same price category, so you wouldn't want to contest with it driving a big power amp (just as I'm pretty unhappy with an IC-7600 10 miles away doing that); 2) It's less accommodating to interfacing stuff like computer sound cards; 3) You need outboard stuff for a spectrum display; 4) Less audio output -- if you want to listen on speakers, you need something external that's amplified. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: What do you lose ([with a KX3] as compared to a K3)? 1) TX phase noise that's in the range of the best of the other radios in the same price category, so you wouldn't want to contest with it driving a big power amp (just as I'm pretty unhappy with an IC-7600 10 miles away doing that); 2) It's less accommodating to interfacing stuff like computer sound cards; 3) You need outboard stuff for a spectrum display; 4) Less audio output -- if you want to listen on speakers, you need something external that's amplified. The K3 is really a completely different animal: - It is intended as a base station radio, with twice as many controls and a built-in 100-W amp and ATU. - It has a fully independent sub receiver with the same specs as the main. The sub can be on a different band, and has no limit on VFO separation within bands like the KX3's dual watch. - It has up to 5 crystal filters per receiver, and if you outfit it with narrow filters, it will have better dynamic range than the KX3 for offsets below 2 kHz. The KX3 may have a slight edge in 2-kHz IMDDR3 with its own roofing filter module installed, as listed by Sherwood. But this difference would be insignificant for most uses, and with narrow crystal filters, the K3 will outperform the KX3 in heavy CW and narrow RTTY band conditions. Both are excellent, but if your goal is absolute dominance of the CW/RTTY bands, you'd go with the K3. The KX3, on the other hand, would be a great choice if you're on a smaller budget and/or plan to do a lot of field outings at QRP levels. It's by far the world's smallest high-performance all-band/all-mode transceiver. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Gary, The missions of the two radios are quite different. I can toss the KX3 into my daypack with some wire for a simple antenna, and I am off to the park or a nearby wilderness area for a nice day in the field. That is a one box solution (transceiver, batteries, antenna tuner, etc.) that is about the size of a brick, but much lighter. That is what it is designed to do. That is why I bought one. I had considered a K3 for a long time, but just couldn't see putting that much money into a radio that would sit on a desk most of the time. From the moment I saw the first announcement for the KX3, I knew it was the radio for me. The design team at Elecraft worked hard to get a high performance transceiver into a trail friendly package, and what a nice package it is. At home or in my car, I can hook it up to the KXPA100 and have a nice 100w station in two small boxes including antenna tuner.Same basic radio, same controls. That I why I will be buying a KXPA100. Re: ...and so little heard now about the K3 on the reflector? That is not a bad reflection on the K3, but as a different poster said, represents its more mature stage of development. You don't hear as much about the K2 now, and even less about the K1 and KX1 for the same reason. So enjoy your K3. It will not be replaced by the KX3, nor will the K3 replace the KX3. This old dinosaur is very thankful that he can still get out and walk, and the KX3 is the perfect fit. When I can no longer walk, you will see me headed down the sidewalk on my hover round scooter with my KX3 attached and my homebrew magnetic loop antenna sticking up, headed for the nearest park. What a sight! ;-) Mark KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Thank you all for the replies to my question, not one wise guy reply at all and that is refreshing. I do understand the allure of a very small radio that does it all and does it well; I have a spud gun I use to get my antenna wires over the tallest trees when I go camping and I usually operate QRP or close to it to conserve the deep cycle battery. I have though found the K3 itself to be a really small radio and works conveniently and is not an anchor. That said, it would be unwieldy to take a K3 on a backpacking trip and it appears the KX3 would be a fine companion and one with ears like a bat. Amazing to see a complete SDR HF radio that is smaller than my old FT-208R. Amazing indeed. Thanks for the thoughts. 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
Another nice thing about the kx3... I have mine sitting in my go kit which is a pelican case with kx3 and accessories. It's nice to just grab it and throw it in the car and go to wherever I may be headed. If I'm going backpacking I just put the kx3 and needed gear in my pack and go. The advantage here is that I don't have to disconnect all of the cables from the rig in the shack to go anywhere nor do I have reconnect them once I get home. Not to mention, wherever I go, the KX3 always gets that wow factor from hams and non-hams alike when they see it. Two co-workers went out and got their ticket after I showed them the KX3 and how sweet it can be on camping trips. Like others have said, it's nice having such a phenomenal radio in such a small package to take anywhere. 73, Steve KS6PD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3
I bought the K3/10 without 100w PA or ATU. I bought it mainly for superior specs on CW, low phase noise, and versatility with transverters on bands above 6m. I am into eme and mw! The K3 is better (marginally) at this than the KX3, but physically larger so not so handy to haul out to remote locations where one is hand carrying gear (often up a steep trail). So, I also have the KX3. Mainly for 6m 2m (when the new module comes out) and to interface with mw gear to use on those high places with excellent shots needed for DX on microwave. It may turn out the KX3 rivals the K3 for operating on dxpeditions (especially eme dxpeditions) due to size. Want the KX3 to have most of the features of the K3 then add the KXPA100 and ATU. What a nice line-up for mobile! My solution is to buy both! Then you have it all. Oh did I say I also use both radios on 600m. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 vs KX3 AFX
The KX3 DSP has a special effects (AFX) mode by which higher tones go to one ear while lower tones go to the other. The K3 does not. Is there a reason why the K3 can not have this choice? If it can be done, will it? 73, Fred - KT5X K2 # 0700 K3 # 0144 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs KX3 AFX
In the button stack above the VFO B knob, the lower right button is labeled 'AFX'. 73, Mike NF4L On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:47 AM, cloud runner just.one.h...@gmail.com wrote: The KX3 DSP has a special effects (AFX) mode by which higher tones go to one ear while lower tones go to the other. The K3 does not. Is there a reason why the K3 can not have this choice? If it can be done, will it? 73, Fred - KT5X K2 # 0700 K3 # 0144 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
Thanks so much for all of the replies. I think I'll stick with the K3 for now. I have the P3 so it will be fun to see how this all works. Emory I may shoot you off a PM if I have problems getting it working. I hope that's OK. 73 Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-vs-KX3-for-digital-modes-tp7570530p7570567.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
I have both a K3 and KX3 and was thinking it would be nice to use my KX3 a little more in the shack. Any advantage of using the K3 versus the KX3? I have a Signalink USB that I used with my Icom 7K so I have to buy the jumper and cord. I was thinking of maybe buying a Rigblaster Advantage because the computer sound card always seemed to be difficult to configure with the Icom. I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? I know in the past with my Icom 7K I didn't use much wattage. I haven't done digital for almost 2 years so it's all fuzzy to me now. I'm using DXlabs for logging and rig control and was planning on using that for the digital stuff unless you think there is a better option. Thanks Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-vs-KX3-for-digital-modes-tp7570530.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
Stan, I use both the K3 and KX3 for various digital modes. I have both connected to a Signalink USB. They both work very well for digital using the Signalink USB. I would say the K3 is a little better since it is more flexible, you can leave the digital connections in place and not have to disconnect the mic on the KX3 when you want to use SSB. Plus the K3 can provide a little more power when needed. If you have any other questions let me know. 73 Emory WM3M -Original Message- From: Stan AE7UT Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes I have both a K3 and KX3 and was thinking it would be nice to use my KX3 a little more in the shack. Any advantage of using the K3 versus the KX3? I have a Signalink USB that I used with my Icom 7K so I have to buy the jumper and cord. I was thinking of maybe buying a Rigblaster Advantage because the computer sound card always seemed to be difficult to configure with the Icom. I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? I know in the past with my Icom 7K I didn't use much wattage. I haven't done digital for almost 2 years so it's all fuzzy to me now. I'm using DXlabs for logging and rig control and was planning on using that for the digital stuff unless you think there is a better option. Thanks Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-vs-KX3-for-digital-modes-tp7570530.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
I have been doing PSK with 5 watts for several years. WHile many people report running 10 to 100 watts, 5 seems to get the job done for me, although I have a long list of stories about, The one that got away. I did a bunch of RTTY at 5 watts in the North American QSP Party RTTY contest (my first real contest experience). I never lacked for contacts, although I missed one at the very end because the other guy could not read me. After about 4 repeats, he went off with 40 seconds to go and got another contact, so I don't feel too bad. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 2/28/13 at 4:43 PM, ae7...@gmail.com (Stan AE7UT) wrote: I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? --- Bill Frantz| If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | ads, you are the product.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
My k2, k3 and kx3 do great on digital. I run 5 watt most the time. I have run 25 watts before. But 5 watts have made many contacts in cw and psk31. Good luck Gerald. On Feb 28, 2013 6:43 PM, Stan AE7UT ae7...@gmail.com wrote: I have both a K3 and KX3 and was thinking it would be nice to use my KX3 a little more in the shack. Any advantage of using the K3 versus the KX3? I have a Signalink USB that I used with my Icom 7K so I have to buy the jumper and cord. I was thinking of maybe buying a Rigblaster Advantage because the computer sound card always seemed to be difficult to configure with the Icom. I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? I know in the past with my Icom 7K I didn't use much wattage. I haven't done digital for almost 2 years so it's all fuzzy to me now. I'm using DXlabs for logging and rig control and was planning on using that for the digital stuff unless you think there is a better option. Thanks Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-vs-KX3-for-digital-modes-tp7570530.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
You will not be running digital modes with 12W on the KX3. It is rated for 5W on digital modes. Some people prefer to run it it at 3W. I've seen photos of one KX3 modified with a big heat sink and fan for higher power on digital modes. For modes that require extreme frequency stability (e.g. JT65), you may be better off with the K3. The KX3 does have an optional calibration procedure for better temperature compensation, but the K3 is probably better out of the box and has additional options for frequency stabilization. wunder K6WRU On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Stan AE7UT wrote: I have both a K3 and KX3 and was thinking it would be nice to use my KX3 a little more in the shack. Any advantage of using the K3 versus the KX3? I have a Signalink USB that I used with my Icom 7K so I have to buy the jumper and cord. I was thinking of maybe buying a Rigblaster Advantage because the computer sound card always seemed to be difficult to configure with the Icom. I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? I know in the past with my Icom 7K I didn't use much wattage. I haven't done digital for almost 2 years so it's all fuzzy to me now. I'm using DXlabs for logging and rig control and was planning on using that for the digital stuff unless you think there is a better option. Thanks Stan AE7UT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 for digital modes
I use my KX3 with an isolating (transformer) attenuating cord @ 5 watts with a 24 foot wire antenna and it works very well. Tried to keep it simple with the KX3 for portable operation. I use a SignaLink USB with my K3 it also works. very well @ 10 watts. John Hendricks K7JLT On Feb 28, 2013, at 16:43, Stan AE7UT ae7...@gmail.com wrote: I have both a K3 and KX3 and was thinking it would be nice to use my KX3 a little more in the shack. Any advantage of using the K3 versus the KX3? I have a Signalink USB that I used with my Icom 7K so I have to buy the jumper and cord. I was thinking of maybe buying a Rigblaster Advantage because the computer sound card always seemed to be difficult to configure with the Icom. I know there is the wattage issue. Is 12 watts going to be enough if I use the KX3? I know in the past with my Icom 7K I didn't use much wattage. I haven't done digital for almost 2 years so it's all fuzzy to me now. I'm using DXlabs for logging and rig control and was planning on using that for the digital stuff unless you think there is a better option. Thanks Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-vs-KX3-for-digital-modes-tp7570530.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
