Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
I've seen the KPA-500 at Visalia and have been following it closely (I still want #22) and have just been on a DXpedition (ZK2A and VK9NN) with a couple of the THP amps- That just reinforced my desire for the KPA-500. And if I'd had my Elecraft gear, I'd have been on as DU1/N6TQS and DU1/N6TQS/DU8. 73,doug On 24-Jan-11 20:52, Gary Gregory wrote: To All, Well I am a bit surprised at some comments. I guess my thoughts on the 'closeness' of the THP caused some angst with some. The kit version of the KPA-500 is my choice. My 'shack' (read desk) is a THP Free Zone...:-) 73's Gary On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Ken Chandlerg0...@sky.com wrote: I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdickn...@elecraft.com wrote: The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Hello Igor, Really have no idea about KAT500. Same as you, I would like KPA500+KAT500 in one box. This arrangement will give better transportation convenience. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk; Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com 副本(CC) Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com; Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 8:47:23 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： KPA-500 vs THP Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT antenna tuning unit. Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC In addition SPE understands any make of TRCVR not only Icom. What I specially like is that the amp follows TX frequency getting the information from CAT system but then it dowble checks it with own RF sense and frequency counter before switchin to TX. I just wonder if KAT-500 is going to be integrated into KPA500 or will it be in a separate box? 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
A lot of us want the KAT500 as a remote matching unit that can be used near the antenna versus a shack-bound unit. 73, Henry - K4TMC -Original Message- From: Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk To: Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com; Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com Cc: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com; Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:31 am Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP Hello Igor, Really have no idea about KAT500. Same as you, I would like KPA500+KAT500 in one box. This arrangement will give better transportation convenience. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk; Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com 副本(CC) Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com; Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 8:47:23 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： KPA-500 vs THP Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT antenna tuning unit. Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC In addition SPE understands any make of TRCVR not only Icom. What I specially like is that the amp follows TX frequency getting the information from CAT system but then it dowble checks it with own RF sense and frequency counter before switchin to TX. I just wonder if KAT-500 is going to be integrated into KPA500 or will it be in a separate box? 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Henry, Absolutely!...exactly what I want...:-) Remote;y installed at the base of my antennas will be excellent. Gary On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:19 AM, k4...@aol.com wrote: A lot of us want the KAT500 as a remote matching unit that can be used near the antenna versus a shack-bound unit. 73, Henry - K4TMC -Original Message- From: Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk To: Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com; Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com Cc: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com; Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 8:31 am Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP Hello Igor, Really have no idea about KAT500. Same as you, I would like KPA500+KAT500 in one box. This arrangement will give better transportation convenience. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk; Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com 副本(CC) Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com; Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 8:47:23 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： KPA-500 vs THP Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT antenna tuning unit. Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC In addition SPE understands any make of TRCVR not only Icom. What I specially like is that the amp follows TX frequency getting the information from CAT system but then it dowble checks it with own RF sense and frequency counter before switchin to TX. I just wonder if KAT-500 is going to be integrated into KPA500 or will it be in a separate box? 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Gary, Jumping on the bandwagon? THP has been driving that bandwagon for about 4 years with the previous model - the HL-1.1KFX. The new one, the HL-550FX simply adds 6m to the previous model. I would wager that THP is not aware of the developments at Elecraft. In fact, the HL550FX was envisioned/planned long before Elecraft first announced the KPA-500. 73, Bob W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:52 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
The KPA500 will be far less expensive than the new THP amp. We'll have more to say on this soon, now that the KPA500 field test is in full swing. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric On 1/24/2011 6:23 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregorygaryvk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
And have been told the KPA-500 capable of 500w RTTY. I dont have choice I need one. Dreaming of my next RSGB IOTA expedition on NA-128 73 de Claude VE2FK From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:04 PM To: W5UXH Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Aucun virus trouve dans ce message. Analyse effectuee par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 10.0.1202 / Base de donnees virale: 1435/3399 - Date: 23/01/2011 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
To All, Well I am a bit surprised at some comments. I guess my thoughts on the 'closeness' of the THP caused some angst with some. The kit version of the KPA-500 is my choice. My 'shack' (read desk) is a THP Free Zone...:-) 73's Gary On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Ken Chandler g0...@sky.com wrote: I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Hello Wes, THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com 收件人﹕ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/24 (一) 10:23:00 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
On 1/24/2011 10:31 AM, Ken Chandler wrote: I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Contesters have always been part of Elecraft's beta test program, including several who won spots to represent the US in Russia last July. Several of them are my close neighbors. So yes, the KPA500 is getting a VERY serious workout in serious contest stations. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Of course, this little exercise (below) is not exactly comparing apples to apples but it is a rough idea of relative cost per watt: THP Amplifiers: HL-1.2KFX 750 watt $2600 $3.47 per watt HL-1.5KFX1000 watt $3500 $3.50 per watt HL-2.5KFX1500 watt $6000 $4.00 per watt HL-550FX 550 watt $2950 $5.37 per watt ICOM Amplifier: IC-PW1 1000 watt $4600 (price I paid 4 years ago) $4.60 per watt Elecraft KPA500:KPA500 500 watt $2000 $4.00 per watt The THP prices are from HRO web site, the Icom price is what I paid retail from HRO, and the Elecraft is recently quoted here by Eric (I think). I know that these are not all exactly the same kind of configuration but it gives you an idea where things set. Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- sort of right in the middle. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: Hello Wes, THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com 收件人﹕ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/24 (一) 10:23:00 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Phil Hystad wrote: Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- sort of right in the middle. But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: - virtually instant band change via RF sensing (or remote control, or per-band front panel switches) - one of the most efficient broadband solid state amplifiers available, including in terms of RF output watts per AC line input watts - extremely quiet operation (fans will be off most of the time during normal operation, but are capable of tremendous cooling power when you need it) - silent, diode-switched QSK CW beyond 80WPM -- a great match for the K3's QRQ mode - no tendency to fault off line when overstressed; the amp will drop a couple of dB when faced with potentially dangerous operating conditions, but will keep going. If the fault clears, it will automatically go back to full power (the amp will of course protect itself from damage from critical faults). - comprehensive monitoring of all input and output conditions Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
I think Elecraft under-sells the system notion of their products. Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles when all the parts are from the K3 system. The expedition friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a focus of future development. 73, Byron N6NUL On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Phil Hystad wrote: But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
This will be an unbeatable combination. Nothing else on the market will do so much for such a reasonable price with an option to do some of the assembly - or not. Elecraft has challenged the big three to the point of forcing changes in their marketing strategies and product lines. Even TenTec had to do something. With year after year of more of the same from the same old, same old, Elecraft has shaken everything up with outstanding performance, feature richness and moderate and reasonable prices. And for certain Wayne and Eric's skills have not peaked. There are still many more years for growth and innovation. I still think the K4 is possible. Perhaps years from now, but possible. And, hopefully, a K1.5 - a 2 to 4 band K1-sized sideband, cw and digital modes transceiver with 10 watts out (OK, I can live with 5). 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 1/24/2011 10:20 PM, Byron Servies wrote: I think Elecraft under-sells the system notion of their products. Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles when all the parts are from the K3 system. The expedition friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a focus of future development. 73, Byron N6NUL On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdickn...@elecraft.com wrote: Phil Hystad wrote: But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Agreed, I'm a relatively new HAM and really like the integrated approach to the modular components of the Elecraft system. Currently have a moderately configured K3 P3... saving up for the new amp and tuner. Really like being able to add high quality component, as needed, to my k3 system that make the old timers drool with envy. :) Solus Veritas, Darin Sent from mobile phone. On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Byron Servies by...@servies.us wrote: I think Elecraft under-sells the system notion of their products. Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles when all the parts are from the K3 system. The expedition friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a focus of future development. 73, Byron N6NUL On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Phil Hystad wrote: But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP
Hello Jack et al Thanks for your input. Just would like to compare it with my SPE amp. I can hook it up with 2 Radios (SO2R) situation, the SPE has a dedicated connector for so2r, The down side for me with the the SPE is the relays, they are extremely noisy, clack clack in QSK. secondly it's just come back from Rome, Italy, for a Mod to the relays for QSK. I blew up the relays last year during IOTA contest. So I'm looking at the kpa500 as a possible replacement as I only use it on half power (400w legal in UK) So I was interested in what the intended full spec was as I've been seriously looking at Icom amps as I have used them on CW contests in Cyprus with C4i contest station. So yes, I know what I'm looking for but will compromise!! The inbuilt ATU on the SPE (3 - 1) amp is good, but I don't hardly ever use it as all my antenna's are SteppIR. Ken..G0ORH Sent from my iPhone On 25 Jan 2011, at 00:01, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote: Rest assured this is the case. At least two contesters are on the design/development team. You won't need many connections, however. Basically all you will need is RF in, ANT out and PA Key in. There are other connections available, of course. It works _very_ well with the K3. Are you looking for anything in particular? Jack Brindle, W6FB On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Ken Chandler wrote: I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. Chuck, W5UXH Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
