Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
For some interesting reading on age related hearing/comprehension, search for: "Phonemic Regression Syndrome" (NOT a joke !) A quote from one of the pages:" In a "nutshell, these impairments are certainly characteristic of a central auditory processing disorder. We've all heard the term "phonemic regression" defined as a disproportionate inability to understand what others are saying when compared to the individual's degree of hearing loss." Typically, an audiologist at your favorite hearing center can test you for this. It's quite depressing to consider this coming on. It basically affects audible speech, but MAY affect Morse copy as well. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 8:06 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code Jim Brown-10 wrote > CW contesting is also great for building CW copying skills. > > 73, Jim K9YC Yup. Like the old joke, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" Practice! I also suspect age has a lot to do with it. I was licensed at 12. Upgraded at 13, but couldn't afford a SSB radio for 2-3 years, so did CW only. Found the QRQ guys (in the early 70s) at the low end of 40 CW and programs were available, I found I hit a wall at ~100 WPM, despite practice. Other than contesting, I really haven't been active for the last 5-10 years and my speed has significantly dropped. Barry W2UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
I'm fairly certain it's an individual thing. In head copy, it starts to sound like reading somewhere around 25 for me. If I'm making record copy on a mill or keyboard at around 25-30, I'm not really aware of anything I am copying. It seems to be a direct connection between ears and fingers, and I cannot tell you afterwards what I copied. In my very brief 10 months as the "station kid" at a coastal marine station in the mid-50's, the Company tried to enforce an 18-20 WPM speed limit while in traffic, they believed that was the sweet spot in terms of overall throughput [circuit chatter usually ran faster]. Ted McElroy [SK] held [and may still hold] the record set in the 30's I think, at 76 WPM with text taken from a newspaper. That he set the record is certain although some have said he may have had the chance to see the paper ahead of time. He also won typing contests which were popular at the time. What may be apocryphal is a rendition that the code began, he poured a cup of coffee and lit a cigarette, finally sitting down and starting to copy maybe 5 mins later, and continued typing for several minutes after the code stopped. Code groups are said to be much harder than plain text ... the 2nd Telegraph in the 50's was 20 plain text and 16 groups. For some reason, I find groups easier and less work, no idea why. And, after close to 70 years with Morse, I agree with Tom ... there are lots of ways to learn the code with varying efficiency for different people but they all work. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County K2 #4398 K3 #642 ex KX1 #697 On 12/28/2019 8:25 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote: I agree, we all learn by the method our Elmer taught us. Mine was the A,W,J method at 5 WPM. I've been a CW guys almost exclusively and found 15 wpm to be my personal comfort zone...However I have a question for those higher speed guys out there. At what speed would you say you start hearing complete words rather than the individual letters and as a result you could pretty much copy in your head (Jim said he doesn't write anything over 20 WPM). To me that's aweome (also unachievable..hi) Thanks Tom WB2QDG K2 # 1103 (I think) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
Jim Brown-10 wrote > CW contesting is also great for building CW copying skills. > > 73, Jim K9YC Yup. Like the old joke, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" Practice! I also suspect age has a lot to do with it. I was licensed at 12. Upgraded at 13, but couldn't afford a SSB radio for 2-3 years, so did CW only. Found the QRQ guys (in the early 70s) at the low end of 40 CW and programs were available, I found I hit a wall at ~100 WPM, despite practice. Other than contesting, I really haven't been active for the last 5-10 years and my speed has significantly dropped. Barry W2UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
On 12/28/2019 8:45 PM, David Bunte wrote: Just getting on the air and making QSOs has helped my speed more than anything else. CW contesting is also great for building CW copying skills. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
Tom - I can't handle the higher speeds at which Jim is comfortable, but his suggestions are excellent. I think I stopped writing down stuff by the time I approached 15 wpm... except, of course Callsigns, names and QTH because I wanted those in my log... sometimes I will make other notes in the log to recall in future QSOs. By the time I got to 20 WPM I had to look for a paper and pencil if I wanted to write something down... as I put all the other stuff right into my logging program. Just getting on the air and making QSOs has helped my speed more than anything else. Finding someone with whom to chew the rag... not only helps code speed, I think it makes the hobby even more enjoyable. Best of luck es 73 de Dave - K9FN On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:26 PM Tom McCulloch wrote: > I agree, we all learn by the method our Elmer taught us. Mine was the > A,W,J method at 5 WPM. > > I've been a CW guys almost exclusively and found 15 wpm to be my > personal comfort zone...However I have a question for those higher speed > guys out there. At what speed would you say you start hearing complete > words rather than the individual letters and as a result you could > pretty much copy in your head (Jim said he doesn't write anything over > 20 WPM). To me that's aweome (also unachievable..hi) > > Thanks > > Tom WB2QDG > > K2 # 1103 (I think) > > On 12/28/2019 12:08 PM, Jim Danehy wrote: > > Everyone has an opinion on how to learn Morse Code. My skill with CW > probably comes from longevity. Closing in on 70 years of using Morse Code. > Certainly mostly hit and miss. I once wrote here that I could copy quite > fast. Then the posts of bragging. That was not my intention. Credibility > counts. You establish that with facts. > > > > We all start with a blank sheet. We learned to talk as babies. That > takes a good year plus. There really is no difference between learning to > decode speech and CW. They both are sounds. They both are methods of > communication. Reflect on that for just a moment or two. > > > > Converting sound ! When I hear 2 people conversing in a language that I > do not know it is just sound. That also occurs when CW is heard by someone > who does not know CW. > > > > A baby does not learn to read for about 5 years after they learn to > converse in a language. That is why I do not recommend using sight to learn > CW. You may disagree. > > > > I can not recall how long ago it was but I do not write down CW. I do > not write down my conversations in spoken language. > > > > Most people learn CW at slow speeds. They need to write so that they can > retain what the sender is attempting to communicate. At 5 wpm you would > lose the flow of the attempted conversation unless you made notes. > > > > So writing is OK at slower speeds. The goal is to increase your speed to > a point where you do not lose what the conversation is about. That occurs > differently for all of us. I would opine that above 20 wpm you should wean > yourself off of writing down what you are hearing. > > > > The ARRL has archived their Code Practice files that have been sent > over the air. They start at 5 wpm. The increase in 5 words per minute I > recall. They go up to 40 wpm too. They are archived in MP3 format. They > also have a companion text file. Check their website. > > > > It took me a long time to reach where I find myself today. In the 1st > paragraph I wrote 70 years. Yes I am going to be 82. All I use is CW. I > have software that allows me to convert text to CW. I have a library of MP > 3 files that start at 40 and go up to 60. I practice several times a month. > At QRQ Speeds you learn to copy entire words. > > Most can not copy QRQ but that is just a fact. It takes practice. I > believe using the ARRL archives a normal Ham should be able to reach > copying 20 wpm in a few months. Get rid of the pencil and paper at some > point. You don’t converse with others writing down what you hear from > someone. If a baby can learn to talk in a year you can do CW at 20 in a > year. > > > > Just do it > > > > 73 > > Jim W9VNE/VA3VNE > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to th...@att.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
I agree, we all learn by the method our Elmer taught us. Mine was the A,W,J method at 5 WPM. I've been a CW guys almost exclusively and found 15 wpm to be my personal comfort zone...However I have a question for those higher speed guys out there. At what speed would you say you start hearing complete words rather than the individual letters and as a result you could pretty much copy in your head (Jim said he doesn't write anything over 20 WPM). To me that's aweome (also unachievable..hi) Thanks Tom WB2QDG K2 # 1103 (I think) On 12/28/2019 12:08 PM, Jim Danehy wrote: Everyone has an opinion on how to learn Morse Code. My skill with CW probably comes from longevity. Closing in on 70 years of using Morse Code. Certainly mostly hit and miss. I once wrote here that I could copy quite fast. Then the posts of bragging. That was not my intention. Credibility counts. You establish that with facts. We all start with a blank sheet. We learned to talk as babies. That takes a good year plus. There really is no difference between learning to decode speech and CW. They both are sounds. They both are methods of communication. Reflect on that for just a moment or two. Converting sound ! When I hear 2 people conversing in a language that I do not know it is just sound. That also occurs when CW is heard by someone who does not know CW. A baby does not learn to read for about 5 years after they learn to converse in a language. That is why I do not recommend using sight to learn CW. You may disagree. I can not recall how long ago it was but I do not write down CW. I do not write down my conversations in spoken language. Most people learn CW at slow speeds. They need to write so that they can retain what the sender is attempting to communicate. At 5 wpm you would lose the flow of the attempted conversation unless you made notes. So writing is OK at slower speeds. The goal is to increase your speed to a point where you do not lose what the conversation is about. That occurs differently for all of us. I would opine that above 20 wpm you should wean yourself off of writing down what you are hearing. The ARRL has archived their Code Practice files that have been sent over the air. They start at 5 wpm. The increase in 5 words per minute I recall. They go up to 40 wpm too. They are archived in MP3 format. They also have a companion text file. Check their website. It took me a long time to reach where I find myself today. In the 1st paragraph I wrote 70 years. Yes I am going to be 82. All I use is CW. I have software that allows me to convert text to CW. I have a library of MP 3 files that start at 40 and go up to 60. I practice several times a month. At QRQ Speeds you learn to copy entire words. Most can not copy QRQ but that is just a fact. It takes practice. I believe using the ARRL archives a normal Ham should be able to reach copying 20 wpm in a few months. Get rid of the pencil and paper at some point. You don’t converse with others writing down what you hear from someone. If a baby can learn to talk in a year you can do CW at 20 in a year. Just do it 73 Jim W9VNE/VA3VNE Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to th...@att.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning Morse Code
Everyone has an opinion on how to learn Morse Code. My skill with CW probably comes from longevity. Closing in on 70 years of using Morse Code. Certainly mostly hit and miss. I once wrote here that I could copy quite fast. Then the posts of bragging. That was not my intention. Credibility counts. You establish that with facts. We all start with a blank sheet. We learned to talk as babies. That takes a good year plus. There really is no difference between learning to decode speech and CW. They both are sounds. They both are methods of communication. Reflect on that for just a moment or two. Converting sound ! When I hear 2 people conversing in a language that I do not know it is just sound. That also occurs when CW is heard by someone who does not know CW. A baby does not learn to read for about 5 years after they learn to converse in a language. That is why I do not recommend using sight to learn CW. You may disagree. I can not recall how long ago it was but I do not write down CW. I do not write down my conversations in spoken language. Most people learn CW at slow speeds. They need to write so that they can retain what the sender is attempting to communicate. At 5 wpm you would lose the flow of the attempted conversation unless you made notes. So writing is OK at slower speeds. The goal is to increase your speed to a point where you do not lose what the conversation is about. That occurs differently for all of us. I would opine that above 20 wpm you should wean yourself off of writing down what you are hearing. The ARRL has archived their Code Practice files that have been sent over the air. They start at 5 wpm. The increase in 5 words per minute I recall. They go up to 40 wpm too. They are archived in MP3 format. They also have a companion text file. Check their website. It took me a long time to reach where I find myself today. In the 1st paragraph I wrote 70 years. Yes I am going to be 82. All I use is CW. I have software that allows me to convert text to CW. I have a library of MP 3 files that start at 40 and go up to 60. I practice several times a month. At QRQ Speeds you learn to copy entire words. Most can not copy QRQ but that is just a fact. It takes practice. I believe using the ARRL archives a normal Ham should be able to reach copying 20 wpm in a few months. Get rid of the pencil and paper at some point. You don’t converse with others writing down what you hear from someone. If a baby can learn to talk in a year you can do CW at 20 in a year. Just do it 73 Jim W9VNE/VA3VNE Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
There are plenty of free resources out there to learn code. I don't think profit is the reason why people learn to copy before learning to send. Not that doing it the other way around wouldn't work, as long as you make sure you are not sending so slowly as to start counting dots and dashes. That is the the single biggest mistake you can make with the code. I did learn from records though: Army Signal Corps 78 RPMs. Using them I could copy at a pretty good clip before realizing that I should start practicing sending. (The recordings are available at archive.org for free download, just search my callsign there.) I'm not necessarilly recommending these records. If I was learning the Code today I'd most llikely be using one or several of the computer software programs now available. I don't see how they could be beat for ease of learning. 73, Drew AF2Z On Fri, 30 May 2014 14:08:22 -0400, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students sing the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. What gave you that idea? The bands were crowded back then. You had to look around to find an open spot, unless you were on 80 during the day or something like that. These days, there's all sorts of room on the CW bands. So much so, that the FCC has given much of it back to the SSB people. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
-Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students sing the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy mailto:sla...@nullserv.com sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com mailto:w...@w0mu.com mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Dick, thanks for the info! When you say key - do you mean straight key or paddles or is it irrelevant? I got my first paddles at Dayton, so that's all I have. The only Elmer with CW chops available to me is 15 years younger than I am :-) But I'm sure he will help me. Any chance you could do a Skype with me just so I can see/hear what you mean? Event for a couple of minutes. If a picture is worth 1000 words - then a video is worth a million. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students “sing” the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
When I started to learn CW 2 years ago, I started with paddles. Most people will say to start with a straight key. What starting with paddles and a keyer did for me is that I didn't have to worry about the correct length of dit and dah and could focus on characters/ words and spacing in between. This helped (me at least) to better get a good rhythm and made moving to a straight key easier for me. YMMV based on your personal preference. I used G4FON software to get me started and also made one key (no pun intended ) move in locking away the microphone. 73 de Michael K5TRI Sent from Windows Mail From: Slava Baytalskiy Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:46 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Dick, thanks for the info! When you say key - do you mean straight key or paddles or is it irrelevant? I got my first paddles at Dayton, so that's all I have. The only Elmer with CW chops available to me is 15 years younger than I am :-) But I'm sure he will help me. Any chance you could do a Skype with me just so I can see/hear what you mean? Event for a couple of minutes. If a picture is worth 1000 words - then a video is worth a million. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students “sing” the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
How come I have no problem with CW but I can't dance? Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Because you dance with your feet. Try QLF and you fill find your CW and dancing are about the same level. They are for me. Eric KE6US On 5/30/2014 1:59 PM, Tony Estep wrote: How come I have no problem with CW but I can't dance? Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/30/2014 6:18 PM, EricJ wrote: Because you dance with your feet. Try QLF and you fill find your CW and dancing are about the same level. They are for me. Eric KE6US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
I'm left-handed and I can square dance, but only because some guy up on the stage is telling me exactly what to do next. I also can't sing, however I can paddle CW with either hand and often do. My wife is right-handed and has yet to thoroughly master the concept of right vs left. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/30/2014 3:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Slava and others learning Morse ot trying to get better. Listen to all the advice you get, most of it is right on the money! But, when itch comes to scratch, scratch where it itches, which means that if the best advice you have is to do something that you don't want to do, do something else that you do want to do. The absolute worst thing you can do is to force yourself to do something you find odious. Anything you do with Morse is better than doing nothing. Keep it fun and if you don't want to do a particular thing, do something else. We have been practicing code for a long time and it does not work well. Sending and receiving information by Morse Code can be fun, should be fun and if you are having fun, you are learning and getting better. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:49 PM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com wrote: That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Well, in the four grade my Italian teacher would come down on my left hand with her 18 ruler every time I used my left hand. So by the time I got to 8th grade I could write my name equally poor with either hand. AS the result, I can send on a bug with either hand... Some can recognize my code sending, but only when I use my left hand. BTW, I taught code at Fort Gordon, GA. Signal School. It was VERY interesting to see the problems some had and with my background we were able to get most of them through the course. Mel, K6KBE On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:09 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: I'm left-handed and I can square dance, but only because some guy up on the stage is telling me exactly what to do next. I also can't sing, however I can paddle CW with either hand and often do. My wife is right-handed and has yet to thoroughly master the concept of right vs left. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/30/2014 3:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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All this advice is good. However, code sound is a method of communicating that requires you to think of it as a language. Yes. Remember as a child we learned the ABCs then made words then constructed sentences. Code is the same thing. First you learn the sound of the letter. Then you start putting them together into words. The best operators the military service had, were the ones who learn the sound patterns as words. Albeit nonsensical 5 letter code groups are words with a sound. Each one is unique. The great ones could listen to the signal and type the letter without thinking about it. Like short hand, it is a learned automatic response. When you think you have problems coping code, try the random 5 letter code groups. It stops you trying to sound out the letters as words and concentrates on transferring them into groups of letters. One of the things that got most of the hard military trainees over the huddle in speed was to send them 5 letter code groups at the highest speed they were having trouble with and toss out the middle character. Yep, copy the first two skip the next then grab the last two. Before long they were filling in the blank Next speed please.. Mel, K6KBE On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:37 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Slava and others learning Morse ot trying to get better. Listen to all the advice you get, most of it is right on the money! But, when itch comes to scratch, scratch where it itches, which means that if the best advice you have is to do something that you don't want to do, do something else that you do want to do. The absolute worst thing you can do is to force yourself to do something you find odious. Anything you do with Morse is better than doing nothing. Keep it fun and if you don't want to do a particular thing, do something else. We have been practicing code for a long time and it does not work well. Sending and receiving information by Morse Code can be fun, should be fun and if you are having fun, you are learning and getting better. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:49 PM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com wrote: That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
I was 14 years old when I got the ham bug, and found a HS class to learn for my Novice test. The instructor became my elmer, though that term was not yet invented. He allowed me to borrow the instructograph between weekly classes so that was my first practise. I produced clicking and not a tone, of course. Later I built my first receiver and was able to put into oscillation to work as a code practise oscillator using a straight key. So I alternated from listening to 40m CW to sending code to myself. I am sure that helped me start hearing words vs characters. First words I learned were: CQ. de, my call, test, name, RST, etc. I am not a great CW op and very rusty at more than 10wpm. But listening to 15wpm signals is the quickest way to get back up. I used to have a great fist at 18wpm on my straight key. I make a few mistakes these days! I bought a Bencher paddle but it is so foreign to me vs a straight key I just haven't mastered it. Perhaps if I used a keyer that allowed me to use it like a bug it would help. Iambic just is strange. http://www.kl7uw.com/kn8mwa.htm will give you a little trip to the good ole days! 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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DJ1YFK's excellent site: http://lcwo.net/ Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Learning-Morse-Code-OT-tp7589564p7589610.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Or..just get on the air and make some QSOs. 73, Gary K9GS div Original message /divdivFrom: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com /divdivDate:05/27/2014 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] /divdiv /divFIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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What a concept, actually putting the radio in CW mode, hooking up a key or paddles and transmitting/receiving. Brilliant! I like it. Barry NF1O Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:51:31 -0500 From: garyk...@wi.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] Or..just get on the air and make some QSOs. 73, Gary K9GS div Original message /divdivFrom: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com /divdivDate:05/27/2014 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] /divdiv /divFIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb1...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Here are some of my resources I used for learning starting in January of 2014. A lot of it was already mentioned. First note: Spend 25% of your time practicing sending code. It helps you associate sound sequences with characters. Code oscillators are good for this. You can also use your rig in test mode to practice. CW_player and FLDigi can decode CW from a a PC mic. Second note: practice every day for at least 20 minutes, don't skip days. Third note: get on the air as soon as you can. Even if you cannot copy perfectly. Send QRS or AGN or ? if you didn't get something. My preferred software was cw_player to get started and FLDigi once I was primarily playing text files. Here are some good tips:http://www.skccgroup.com/member_services/beginners_corner/ skccgroup is an excelent resource. --- Getting started: (random characters and text players) CW Player: http://www.f6dqm.fr/software.htm Just Learn Morse Codehttp://www.justlearnmorsecode.com/ g4fon Koch trainer:http://www.g4fon.net/CW%20Trainer.htm Learn CW Online:http://lcwo.net/ FLDigi is harder to set up, but probably the cleanest CW sender of text:(most of the other software will send CW from text files also)http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html --- Additional resources: Text files for a player: (this has character groups and words for those groups - get the zipped collection file)http://nfarl.org/sigCW/cwIntro.html Morse code podcast at 5WPM:http://aa9pw.com/category/morse-code/podcast-morse-code/He also has some good online resources:http://aa9pw.com/morsecode/ Nice collection of text to put into one of the CW players:http://www.k7qo.net/answers.zip He also has MP3 files but I preferred to play the files through a player at the speed I wanted.http://www.k7qo.net/ ARRL has on air code and MP3 files: (BTW: ARRL uses FLDigi to send their code)You can also get the answer file and send it through your preferred cw player at the speed you want)http://www.arrl.org/code-transmissionshttp://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files Longer texts for players, it also has MP3's that slowly increase in speed:http://www.skccgroup.com/member_services/learning_center/ After you get to about 5-7wpm you can use Morse runner (10wpm minimum) to practice copying call signs in a simulated contest:http://www.dxatlas.com/morserunner/ Another speed trainer I haven't used yet is:http://www.rufzxp.net/ Hope that helps. 73 - Tom - wa4ta __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The trouble is finding the right antenna to use on the train. But I'm sure you have a solution! Please do share! Richard Hill NU6T On 5/28/2014 7:06 AM, barry whittemore wrote: What a concept, actually putting the radio in CW mode, hooking up a key or paddles and transmitting/receiving. Brilliant! I like it. Barry NF1O Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:51:31 -0500 From: garyk...@wi.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] Or..just get on the air and make some QSOs. 73, Gary K9GS div Original message /divdivFrom: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com /divdivDate:05/27/2014 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] /divdiv /divFIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb1...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to reh...@ix.netcom.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'm a new ham and hope to nail down basic code in the near future. I just want to thank you all for sharing a multitude of ways to learn and sharpen one's skills. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Rich reh...@ix.netcom.com wrote: The trouble is finding the right antenna to use on the train. But I'm sure you have a solution! Please do share! Richard Hill NU6T On 5/28/2014 7:06 AM, barry whittemore wrote: What a concept, actually putting the radio in CW mode, hooking up a key or paddles and transmitting/receiving. Brilliant! I like it. Barry NF1O Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 08:51:31 -0500 From: garyk...@wi.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] Or..just get on the air and make some QSOs. 73, Gary K9GS div Original message /divdivFrom: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com /divdivDate:05/27/2014 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT] /divdiv /divFIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb1...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to reh...@ix.netcom.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wolfpartyore...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 14-05-28 01:28 PM, Joseph Robertson wrote: I'm a new ham and hope to nail down basic code in the near future. I just want to thank you all for sharing a multitude of ways to learn and sharpen one's skills. When I was first thinking of getting a licence I was up to copying 5wpm and about half of code at 10wpm. It was quite some years later before I really got around to getting it. In the intervening years I had spent some time tuning the hand bands and would listen a while to some morse code that felt comfortable to me or that was just on the upper edge of my ability to copy. When it came time to work on the code to get my ticket I found I was able to copy code above 10wpm. The casual listening to code helped me get better even though I never once sat down and said I'm going to practice listening to code. Regular practice listening will help but don't underestimate the value of just listening at times. Tune in to some morse and listen to it will doing some other chores around the house. You will be more relaxed when you aren't forcing yourself to sit and actively practice. Another way to get better at faster code is to listen to code during contests and try and pick out what you can of the call signs. Contest code is usually very fast and it really forces you to focus on the sound of code and not count dits and dahs. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful! #include disclaimer/favourite | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 5/28/2014 10:28 AM, Joseph Robertson wrote: I'm a new ham and hope to nail down basic code in the near future. I just want to thank you all for sharing a multitude of ways to learn and sharpen one's skills. Check out CW Ops -- we offer CW classes at three levels. http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I signed up for the level one course and got added into the course from April-May 2015. Worst case scenario is I don't learn a lick of code between now and then. Josh, K8WXA Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 15:33, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On 5/28/2014 10:28 AM, Joseph Robertson wrote: I'm a new ham and hope to nail down basic code in the near future. I just want to thank you all for sharing a multitude of ways to learn and sharpen one's skills. Check out CW Ops -- we offer CW classes at three levels. http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I've had good luck using K7QO's code course, http://www.k7qo.net, and G4FON's trainer app, http://www.g4fon.net. Tighe NK4I On 5/27/2014 1:43 PM, Lee Trout wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ -- Tighe Kuykendall NK4I | www.NK4I.com | Follow Me on Twitter: @NK4I ARRL Life Member, NAQCC #6467, FISTS #16746, SKCC #12217 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. It does both Koch and Farnsworth, also will send news reports to you in Morse. Very nifty. Don't know if it is also available for Android. --Oliver W6ODJ On 27 Jan. 2014, at 18:43 PM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ojo...@metacosmos.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I didn't use the G4FON software to learn the code (not much was available 55 years ago...except maybe the Instructograph), but I have used it for about 10 years to stay sharp. It will read any text file, either one you invent or one you find somewhere. I convert chapters from EPUB novels I bought for my nook to TXT format and listen to them in the truck or at night when my eyes are too tired to enjoy reading. I sometimes strip all punctuation (in NOTEPAD) except periods too. You can select character speed, Farnsworth speed, tone, QSB/QRM/QRN and even mix an entertaining and nostalgic QLF with speed/pitch dither, straight key, chirp and whatever. Highly recommended. I think the Koch method would make learning a snap. Eric KE6US On 5/27/2014 11:09 AM, Tighe Kuykendall wrote: I've had good luck using K7QO's code course, http://www.k7qo.net, and G4FON's trainer app, http://www.g4fon.net. Tighe NK4I On 5/27/2014 1:43 PM, Lee Trout wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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FIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
