Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-06-05 Thread Arno Dienhart
KX3 #4458 arrived today. Still working on antenna(e), so cannot RX or TX
yet, but the package is wonderful.

 

Thank you all again for your advice.

 

73,

Arno

KG7BJM

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-06-01 Thread Arno Dienhart
Dear all,

What can I say! I am overwhelmed by the friendliness and generosity of you
all with offering your good advice, help, even offering to let me use your
TXCVR for a while. And then, of course, overwhelmed by the almost-unanimous
recommendation of one transceiver for my situation: the KX3.

Well, my (pre-assembled) KX3 will be shipped on Monday, with ATU, roofing
filter and charger. Serious learning will ensue to get my General ticket,
and to get familiar with the KX3's features, of course. Both should be fun.

Next major obstacle will be the antenna(e). Which, I hope, will also be fun.
I will see (and hear).

Again, thank you all. I have a hunch that I will be back with more questions
;)

73,
Arno
Kg7bjm




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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-31 Thread Tommy Mitchell
Arno,

I'll be a bit contrarian here.  My first Elecraft rig was the KX3 which I 
wanted for portable work.  I've since built a K2 with the PA and ATU, but it's 
CW only. The KX3 goes in the field with me and the K2 stays on my desk as my 
primary rig.  There are a couple of reasons for this:

1) I built my K2 and I'm proud of that. I enjoy knowing that I understand how 
it works and how to troubleshoot it when things have gone awry. Its my baby.
2) As you put it, the K2 is sort of a classic type of radio, at least compared 
to the other things on offer today. CW is a beautifully simple mode and that's 
why I like it and it fits with how I want to spend my time in the hobby.

That said, the KX3 is a phenomenal CW rig and I don't think anyone could say 
you'd be wrong to get one.  The display is exceptional and presents all the 
information you could want in an easy to understand manner.  Though it does 
more stuff than the K2, the primary functions for CW on the KX3 are almost as 
easy to manipulate as with the K2. I spend my working life in Information 
Technology.  While I've used the I/Q on the KX3 to prove I could do it, I don't 
find myself wanting to use it very much. I steer away from that in my hobby.  
See #2 above.  Same goes for digital modes.

The K2, for now, remains my rig of choice when I'm not portable.

Have fun!

Tommy W4TZM


On May 30, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:

 
 
 Hello,
 
 
 
 I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I might
 have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
 from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
 would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. Life
 is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the K2 is
 that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but the
 ATU. 
 
 
 
 I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
 scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
 chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).
 
 
 
 Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
 While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
 mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
 other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
 radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.
 
 
 
 If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
 would be the better radio for me? 
 
 
 
 Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
 questions, if you have them.
 
 
 
 73,
 
 
 
 Arno
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-31 Thread gt-i

Arno,
I both own the K2 and the KX3. maybe you saw my recent post about using 
them in the WPX CW contest.
The great thing about the KX3 is that Elecraft is constantly working on 
software improvements.
You can disable FM and AM - just checked SSB cannot be disabled at the 
time but my be thats a new feature request :-)
I have not even yet connected a mike to my KX3 - I only plan to do this 
once the 2m module is in my hands. So far a 100% CW machine. CW 
memories, RIT/XIT, full or semi break-in, CW Rev, variable pitch all 
like the K2, extras are CW Auto SPOT (tuning aid), great filtering from 
50Hz to 2,8kHz just by turning the PBT knob, APF, noise reduction and 
even basic CW decoding (maybe not of interest to you but just to make 
the list complete). A general improvent over the K2 is the custom LCD 
display and all knobs and buttons are imho much better to use.


73  have fun
Gernot, DF5RF

Am 30.05.2013 20:15, schrieb stan levandowski:
Arno, I'm looking at your email and reading between the lines:  You 
want to make the most of the time you have left and you want to 
reconnect with a meaningful time in your life which is spelled CW.  
I am also a former US Navy RM and I operate 100% QRP CW.  I own (and 
use) all the Elecraft transceivers and that's the problem:  They are 
all so wonderful I can't bear to part with any of them.  Having said 
all this, I find myself constantly reaching for my KX3.  It has the 
performance, the all-important dual watch which makes DXing a split 
incredibly efficient, and it's been working with no issues since I got 
#0325.  The ATU can load anything.  The automatic spotting function is 
outstanding. In my opinion the KX3 *is* designed for CW.  I just 
totally ignore the SSB and other modes stuff.  If I were in your 
situation I would buy the KX3. 73, Stan WB2LQF


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Arno Dienhart wrote:


Hello,


I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I 
might

have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. 
Life
is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the 
K2 is
that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but 
the

ATU.

I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).


Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just 
fine.
While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I 
wouldn't
mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want 
are the
other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting 
the wrong

radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.


If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
would be the better radio for me?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
questions, if you have them.


73,


Arno

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[Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Arno Dienhart
 

Hello,

 

I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I might
have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. Life
is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the K2 is
that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but the
ATU. 

 

I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).

 

Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.

 

If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
would be the better radio for me? 

 

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
questions, if you have them.

 

73,

 

Arno

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Gil G.
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 11:23 -0600, Arno Dienhart wrote:
 If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you
 think would be the better radio for me? 
 
Hello Arno,

You might want to look at the K1 (or KX1). I have built a K1 and a K2,
and the K1 is easier and faster to build. It outputs 6W, and that is
enough for DX anywhere. It's a neat little radio.

Gil.

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Ariel Jacala
I am a relatively new ham - licensed in 2009 as a Tech and Extra in 2010.  My 
two cents and being a 96% CW Op (3000 QSOs in 3+ years with only 20 or so SSB 
QSOs), if I had to do it all over again and having the opportunity to buy a KX3 
or a K2 at the same time - I would buy the KX3 (hands down).  At the time I 
bought the K2, the KX3 was not around.  The K2 is a good rig and at the time it 
was designed 10 years ago, no one came close to its overall capability.  Now, 
the KX3 is in its shoes.  From the pure enjoyment of operating, casual 
contesting, field day, and especially the SDR capabilities, the KX3 wins in my 
book.  I still have the K2 and still enjoy operating it.  These days, I just 
keep reaching for the KX3.  
I guess if you don't care about SDR, and SSB or PSK and other digital modes - 
then the K1 could be the minimalist ticket.  The K2 would have more bands (even 
without the SSB option), and would have 10 and 12 m (not possible on the K1). 
The KX3 just allows all the options to be open if and when the time comes for 
them.
Ariel NY4GDXCC-QRPWAS-QRPSKCC TribuneKX3 #1211K2 #7105
 From: a...@broadweave.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 11:23:21 -0600
 Subject: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o,  between classic K2 and 
 progressive KX3
 
  
 
 Hello,
 
  
 
 I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I might
 have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
 from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
 would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. Life
 is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the K2 is
 that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but the
 ATU. 
 
  
 
 I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
 scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
 chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).
 
  
 
 Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
 While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
 mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
 other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
 radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.
 
  
 
 If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
 would be the better radio for me? 
 
  
 
 Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
 questions, if you have them.
 
  
 
 73,
 
  
 
 Arno
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Jeff Ellis
Arno,
One thing about the SDR part of a KX3 you may be overlooking is it can be 
updated and improved all the time with new firmware downloads. You may also 
find the  DSP and filtering of the KX3 might add to the enjoyment of CW. Also 
having the I/Q output gives the ability to have a panadapter to help you find 
signals or to jump quickly between them when listening. You may also come to 
enjoy digital modes in the future. With the KX3 you can send RTTY and PSK31 via 
a paddle and it will decode on the display. It makes those two modes like 
alternate CW.

Just some thoughts.

73

Jeff, K7GDE

On May 30, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:

 Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
 While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
 mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
 other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
 radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.
 
 Arno

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread stan levandowski
Arno, I'm looking at your email and reading between the lines:  You want 
to make the most of the time you have left and you want to reconnect 
with a meaningful time in your life which is spelled CW.  I am also a 
former US Navy RM and I operate 100% QRP CW.  I own (and use) all the 
Elecraft transceivers and that's the problem:  They are all so wonderful 
I can't bear to part with any of them.  Having said all this, I find 
myself constantly reaching for my KX3.  It has the performance, the 
all-important dual watch which makes DXing a split incredibly efficient, 
and it's been working with no issues since I got #0325.  The ATU can 
load anything.  The automatic spotting function is outstanding. In my 
opinion the KX3 *is* designed for CW.  I just totally ignore the SSB and 
other modes stuff.  If I were in your situation I would buy the KX3. 
73, Stan WB2LQF


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Arno Dienhart wrote:


Hello,


I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I 
might
have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know 
well
from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 
and
would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. 
Life
is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the 
K2 is
that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but 
the

ATU.

I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work 
and

scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).


Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just 
fine.
While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I 
wouldn't
mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want 
are the
other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the 
wrong

radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.


If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you 
think

would be the better radio for me?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
questions, if you have them.


73,


Arno

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Tim Hague
The KX3 is a fantastic CW radio, the DSP filtering combined with the roofing 
filter makes it very hard to beat, 50 Hz bandwidth with no ringing!

Best regards, Tim Hague, M0AFJ
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 30 May 2013, at 18:54, Jeff Ellis driftenli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Arno,
 One thing about the SDR part of a KX3 you may be overlooking is it can be 
 updated and improved all the time with new firmware downloads. You may also 
 find the  DSP and filtering of the KX3 might add to the enjoyment of CW. Also 
 having the I/Q output gives the ability to have a panadapter to help you find 
 signals or to jump quickly between them when listening. You may also come to 
 enjoy digital modes in the future. With the KX3 you can send RTTY and PSK31 
 via a paddle and it will decode on the display. It makes those two modes like 
 alternate CW.
 
 Just some thoughts.
 
 73
 
 Jeff, K7GDE
 
 On May 30, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:
 
 Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
 While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
 mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
 other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
 radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.
 
 Arno
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Gustavo Villada
Hallo Arno, Genosse Seemann.
As several have tell you, a KX3 will fit better than a K2... and KX3 you
dont need to soldering...

73
Gus / LU6AGV
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Philip Townsend Lontz
I have the K2, K3 and the KX3... I do CW ... Almost never SSB... All three are 
great and I can play with any of them at anytime.
I,almost always choose the KX3 over the others. I don't know why... I just do. 
It's not about reason... Cause reason would have a cause. If I have to sell 
one... I don't know which one would go... It's kinda like trying to sell your 
sister,or brother. Thought call.

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On May 30, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Gustavo Villada vill...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hallo Arno, Genosse Seemann.
 As several have tell you, a KX3 will fit better than a K2... and KX3 you
 dont need to soldering...
 
 73
 Gus / LU6AGV
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Hogan
I have had my mike plugged in once...made one contact, it worked.
I put it in the Rose KX3 bag and hooked up a key and have not looked back.
It's a great cw rig.
I also have a KX1 another great rig

Mark Hogan N5OBC


On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Arno Dienhart wrote:



 Hello,



 I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I might
 have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
 from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
 would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. Life
 is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the K2 is
 that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but the
 ATU.



 I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
 scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
 chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).



 Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
 While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
 mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
 other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the
 wrong
 radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.



 If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
 would be the better radio for me?



 Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
 questions, if you have them.



 73,



 Arno

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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Babineau
Arno :

I am a K2/10 user (and builder) and it is a fantastic CW radio. I have also had 
the opportunity to use a KX3 to make a few QSOs and 
I can report that it is also a fantastic CW radio. In fact the nicest thing 
that I can say about the KX3 is that it sounds like an analog
radio, except that you can narrow the filters down to 50Hz and there is 
absolutely no ringing (typical of SDR).  It doesn't matter
that it has SSB capability or that it is an SDR it is still an excellent CW 
rig.  Unless you really have your heart set on building a 
K2, and your budget allows, I would say go with the KX3. I you don't really 
plan to do any portable operating, then maybe also consider
whether a K3/10 might be a better fit for your needs than the KX3. 

Best of luck in your decision. I am sure that you will be pleased with either a 
K2, KX3 or K3.

Michael VE3WMB (K1, KX1, K2 owner) 
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Re: [Elecraft] New ham but seasoned CW r/o, between classic K2 and progressive KX3

2013-05-30 Thread Mike Studer

I have a K3, KX3, K2 (QRP version with internal ATU and battery), and a KX1.
For a CW operator like myself the KX3 is preferred over a K2.
Both the KX3 and K3 have a feature called CWT (CW Tuning).
It allows precise tuning of a received CW signal.  Either manually via a 
visual display or automatically by pressing the SPOT button.  (while in 
CWT mode).

I love that feature. It's fast and it's easy.
Plus the KX3 has very nice filtering and DSP. ie., it's quiet.
I can also hook the KX3 up via it's RXIQ port to a good computer sound 
card and use the computer to monitor all the CW portion of the band at 
once.  ie., CW Skimmer software.

I hope this helps.
73,
Mike

On 5/30/2013 10:23 AM, Arno Dienhart wrote:
  


Hello,

  


I am a new ham, retired, and this is a kind of bucket list thing: I might
have one or two years left and want to get back into CW that I know well
from my time in the (German) Navy. I have been looking hard at a K2 and
would be able to build it but that would not be the reason to get it. Life
is short and I'd prefer to just assemble a KX3. What I like about the K2 is
that it is designed for CW, and I would not add SSB, nor the amp, but the
ATU.

  


I also own a dual band HT, which I use for local ARES volunteer work and
scanning the PD band. Other than that, I'm not really into verbal rag
chewing, be it local or DX (blame my snotty CW attitude).

  


Only today did I realize what the KX3 is. Assembling it would be just fine.
While the smaller size is not necessarily a buying point for me, I wouldn't
mind it (I will take it outdoors). What I don't really need or want are the
other modes (SSB, data, and SDR), so I wonder whether I am getting the wrong
radio with a KX3 that is not a dedicated CW machine.

  


If all I did were CW, with DX ambitions nevertheless, which do you think
would be the better radio for me?

  


Thank you in advance for your suggestions and ideas, and also further
questions, if you have them.

  


73,

  


Arno

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