Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Folks, we're drifting afar OT. Let's rest this thread in the interest of relieving email overload for our other list members. (Its amazing how quickly these threads grow. Especially when I am out of town at the Ham Radio Friedrichshafen show in Germany!) 73, Eric Moderator etc. elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 2, 2018, at 10:15 PM, EricJ wrote: > > I traded a 75A2 for a new 6m Gooney III in 1960. I worked nothing but 6m for > the next two years until I went in the Army in 1962. > > Spent many a night on SF's Twin Peaks with that radio. One of my happiest > times in ham radio. I'm pretty sure 50.125 was calling frequency then too. > The band was all AM. CW was rare. SSB was mostly non-existent. > > Eric > > >> On 6/2/2018 12:46 PM, Bob wrote: >> And the yellow 6 meter "Gooney box" borrowed from CD. >> >> Well still not wealthy but maybe I should upgrade and put together the >> Johnson 6N2 new in the box kit that rests in the basement. >> >> 73, >> Bob >> K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) and K2TKR >> >>> On 6/2/2018 3:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >>> Yep, that Heath Sixer was quite a rig. If you were wealthy, you could move >>> up to a Johnson 6N2. [:-) >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> On 6/2/2018 10:01 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: I have been on 6M since 1956. Ahhh those were the days. Mel, K6KBE >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.c...@gmail.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Fred, I had both. Bought sixer in 1965 and installed it with vibrator PS in my 65 Mustang with a halo bumper-mounted. A couple years later bought the 6N2 and ran it at 150w plate-modulated AM (using PS and modulator of a DX100). Fun years operating from Mich. Re: 50.125, sure its the calling frequency so I call there in an opening, usually moving up to 50.130 or 50.140, once the pack realizes I am in AK. But you are more likely to work me on 50.200+ on 6m-eme (no waiting for propagation). Actively working on the new dual 7-element LFA yagi array which may be getting installed in a week or two. I can run 1000w driven by my K3+KXPA100 at 11w. http://www.kl7uw.com/6m.htm 73, Ed - KL7UW Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:10:48 -0700 From: Fred Jensen To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Yep, that Heath Sixer was quite a rig.? If you were wealthy, you could move up to a Johnson 6N2. [:-) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
I've been licensed long enough to remember when you kept a logbook to meet FCC requirements and you listed what you did on the air, even if it was just testing. I lined out and initialed changes. I'm reminded of a guy on the FT8 Yahoo group who admitted that his computer and radio "worked" and logged another station while he was in the kitchen. So he declared that he wasn't going to QSL the other guy. I asked him how the other guy was supposed to know he wasn't in front of the radio and why he was being punished for it. Crickets. Clearly, everyone's ethics are their own. On 6/2/2018 4:08 PM, Clay Autery wrote: I don't consider it anal I consider it a matter of principle, and agree with Jim. I'd do the same thing. __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 06/02/18 16:07, Wes Stewart wrote: Good grief, how anal can you get? On 6/2/2018 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: ...And when I work someone off the calling frequency and hear him later running on the calling frequency, I take the Q out of my log __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wes_n...@triconet.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
I don't consider it anal I consider it a matter of principle, and agree with Jim. I'd do the same thing. __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 06/02/18 16:07, Wes Stewart wrote: Good grief, how anal can you get? On 6/2/2018 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: ...And when I work someone off the calling frequency and hear him later running on the calling frequency, I take the Q out of my log __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Interesting conversation. As one those old farts, age 76 and a ham for 60 of them, I do still have all of my teeth, most of my hair and a 59-year-old fiancee. I guess I fail to understand the heartburn about calling frequencies. First, they aren't FCC assigned frequencies. It is completely legal to operate on them on a first-come-first-served basis. No one owns a frequency. Now while it might be reasonably argued that it is bad form to occupy one continuously, it certainly isn't the end of the world. Regularly scheduled "nets" should certainly use a different frequency but if someone calls CQ and is answered by a distant station I fail to see a need to immediately QSY and risk losing the QSO, especially if it is MS. Wes N7WS On 6/2/2018 12:51 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Absolutely correct! These old farts, gum beaters and false teeth clackers, are usually running 100 watts or so to outside non-directional antennas and are often no more than 20 miles apart. If challenged one will be told that "we were hear first and you should move on". They do not recognize the national calling frequency by gentleman's agreement. Seems like hours and hours of QSO's takes place as "members" of the group come in and out during the evenings. I've often heard stations in the distant calling CQ and I've answered them on the calling frequency and asked the distant station to QSY up or down 5. Then I hear about me QRM'm their QSO. Crap such as this is one reason I stopped contesting on VHF. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Good grief, how anal can you get? On 6/2/2018 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: ...And when I work someone off the calling frequency and hear him later running on the calling frequency, I take the Q out of my log __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
I traded a 75A2 for a new 6m Gooney III in 1960. I worked nothing but 6m for the next two years until I went in the Army in 1962. Spent many a night on SF's Twin Peaks with that radio. One of my happiest times in ham radio. I'm pretty sure 50.125 was calling frequency then too. The band was all AM. CW was rare. SSB was mostly non-existent. Eric On 6/2/2018 12:46 PM, Bob wrote: And the yellow 6 meter "Gooney box" borrowed from CD. Well still not wealthy but maybe I should upgrade and put together the Johnson 6N2 new in the box kit that rests in the basement. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) and K2TKR On 6/2/2018 3:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Yep, that Heath Sixer was quite a rig. If you were wealthy, you could move up to a Johnson 6N2. [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/2/2018 10:01 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: I have been on 6M since 1956. Ahhh those were the days. Mel, K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric.c...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Absolutely correct! These old farts, gum beaters and false teeth clackers, are usually running 100 watts or so to outside non-directional antennas and are often no more than 20 miles apart. If challenged one will be told that "we were hear first and you should move on". They do not recognize the national calling frequency by gentleman's agreement. Seems like hours and hours of QSO's takes place as "members" of the group come in and out during the evenings. I've often heard stations in the distant calling CQ and I've answered them on the calling frequency and asked the distant station to QSY up or down 5. Then I hear about me QRM'm their QSO. Crap such as this is one reason I stopped contesting on VHF. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 6/2/2018 1:52 PM, Bert Rollen wrote: We have several fools around here in Tennessee that are often oblivious to openings on 50.125. The edge of an opening can be pretty sharp, and even 5-10 miles in the "wrong direction", they will never know it... and keep on yakking. for hours at a time. (honestly, they know better. They just don’t care) de K4AR - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
And the yellow 6 meter "Gooney box" borrowed from CD. Well still not wealthy but maybe I should upgrade and put together the Johnson 6N2 new in the box kit that rests in the basement. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) and K2TKR On 6/2/2018 3:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Yep, that Heath Sixer was quite a rig. If you were wealthy, you could move up to a Johnson 6N2. [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/2/2018 10:01 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: I have been on 6M since 1956. Ahhh those were the days. Mel, K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Yep, that Heath Sixer was quite a rig. If you were wealthy, you could move up to a Johnson 6N2. [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/2/2018 10:01 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: I have been on 6M since 1956. Ahhh those were the days. Mel, K6KBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
We have several fools around here in Tennessee that are often oblivious to openings on 50.125. The edge of an opening can be pretty sharp, and even 5-10 miles in the "wrong direction", they will never know it... and keep on yakking. for hours at a time. (honestly, they know better. They just don’t care) de K4AR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Rose Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:52 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure IMO … based on years of 6M operating. Use 50.125 as a calling frequency -only-. NEVER hold a QSO, however "short", on this frequency. Typically one would say "CQ, this is XXX, listening 50.125(+), if wanting SSB QSO's or 50.125(-) or so if wanting CW QSO's. After the initial CQ, I seldom even listen to 50.125 for a reply. Simply put, I won't be the source of QRM on the calling frequency. I'm supposedly in a rare grid and have sometimes had a "run" of several hours duration, based on just one initial call on 50.125. FWIW ... 73! Ken - K0PP DN36 - Montana __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
Hi Ken, I strongly agree, and when I use the calling frequency, it's exactly as you describe. During contests, I refuse to work anyone who uses the calling frequency as an operating frequency, even at a different time during the contest when he's moved. And when I work someone off the calling frequency and hear him later running on the calling frequency, I take the Q out of my log. I view using the calling frequency to make QSOs as unsportsmanlike conduct. 73, Jim K9YC On 6/2/2018 9:52 AM, Rose wrote: IMO … based on years of 6M operating. Use 50.125 as a calling frequency -only-. NEVER hold a QSO, however "short", on this frequency. Typically one would say "CQ, this is XXX, listening 50.125(+), if wanting SSB QSO's or 50.125(-) or so if wanting CW QSO's. After the initial CQ, I seldom even listen to 50.125 for a reply. Simply put, I won't be the source of QRM on the calling frequency. I'm supposedly in a rare grid and have sometimes had a "run" of several hours duration, based on just one initial call on 50.125. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
There are several "watering holes" on 6M. 50.140, 50.250, etc. Mainly local groups, but it does let you know when the band is active. Of course the FM channels are a good source also. I have been on 6M since 1956. Ahhh those were the days. Mel, K6KBE From: Rose To: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 9:57 AM Subject: [Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure IMO … based on years of 6M operating. Use 50.125 as a calling frequency -only-. NEVER hold a QSO, however "short", on this frequency. Typically one would say "CQ, this is XXX, listening 50.125(+), if wanting SSB QSO's or 50.125(-) or so if wanting CW QSO's. After the initial CQ, I seldom even listen to 50.125 for a reply. Simply put, I won't be the source of QRM on the calling frequency. I'm supposedly in a rare grid and have sometimes had a "run" of several hours duration, based on just one initial call on 50.125. FWIW ... 73! Ken - K0PP DN36 - Montana __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: 6M proceedure
IMO … based on years of 6M operating. Use 50.125 as a calling frequency -only-. NEVER hold a QSO, however "short", on this frequency. Typically one would say "CQ, this is XXX, listening 50.125(+), if wanting SSB QSO's or 50.125(-) or so if wanting CW QSO's. After the initial CQ, I seldom even listen to 50.125 for a reply. Simply put, I won't be the source of QRM on the calling frequency. I'm supposedly in a rare grid and have sometimes had a "run" of several hours duration, based on just one initial call on 50.125. FWIW ... 73! Ken - K0PP DN36 - Montana __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
