Re: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail & Spam Robo Calls
Thanks for your patience, Eric. (:-)) 73 all K0PP On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 10:05 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < e...@elecraft.com> wrote: > We're drifting a little too OT. Let's close this thread in the interest of > reducing email overload for our readers. > > 73, > Eric > Moderator etc. > /elecraft.com/ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail & Spam Robo Calls
We're drifting a little too OT. Let's close this thread in the interest of reducing email overload for our readers. 73, Eric Moderator etc. /elecraft.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail & Spam Robo Calls
My solution is very simple. I ignore all calls unless they appear on my caller ID from my contact list. Likewise on e-mail, my spam filter gets 99.9% of all of them and they end being sent to the junk folder. That folder gets emptied every 12 hrs. The one or two that get through, also get manually added to the junk filter. Thank you Thunderbird which is my e-mail application. Once the filter is set, they are then history forever. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 8/14/2018 10:35 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: I use commercial spam solutions for relief from internet email spammers. Lots of them out there. That's all well and good. The REAL problem for me are robo calls to my home phones and cell phone. I listed both phones on the State of Missouri and the Federal *No Call Lists* years ago. That worked ok for a while, then totally spiraled out of control. Spammers don't pay any attention to the *List* and violations are not enforced. I found a fix in an app called *NOMOROBO* No More Robo (calls). After you sign up for the service, their server spots the fingerprints of incoming spam telephone robo calls on your phone line. My phone rings a partial ring (.5 sec?) then the software at the server end sucks the call off my line and adds it to their national database blacklist. The Caller Id is still displayed on my TV screen, but before I can get my butt out of my chair, the ring stops, telling me not to bother with the call, it's spam. I can't remember how many years I've used NoMoRobo but I was an early adopter and it has been working beautifully for probably 10 years now. The idea was hatched by a couple of guys during a contest to find a solution to annoying Robo Calls (necessary because your local telco doesn't want to help inhibit the use of their paid services). You don't need to load your *white list* phone numbers. There is a free version of NoMoRobo and a paid version. So far, I have seen no need for the paid version. In all this time I only had two callers get wrongly *captured* by the spam software and both were vendors I use who had recently changed their phone number. Calls from my doctor's appointment office, Trash Hauler, etc come right through. While not affiliated with the firm that offers this (I wish I were) I recommend looking it over and deciding for yourself if it suits your needs: www.nomorobo.com 73, Terry WØFM Pardon the bandwidth -Original Message- From: Ken G Kopp [mailto:kengk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 1:58 PM To: w7aqk Cc: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail Hi Dave, + rest of list I've not seen your "Elycraft", but we … both ElecraftCovers (Rose, N7HKW) and me … get lots of e-mail from people wanting to "fix" elecraft.com and bring us more business. I expect Elecraft also gets these same offers. Both of us, for several reasons, need to maintain an old-fashioned wired phone line. We have had the same number for about fifty years and it's published and used from all over the world. Here's what seems to (partially) work for us; we have an answering machine in a speaker-phone that's audible throughout the house. In addition, our satellite TV provider is connected to the TV set … which is usually on (;-) … and the TV screen displays caller ID info. Perhaps ten percent of the calls are legit. Both of us have Verizon cell phones and get -many- calls from spoofed numbers … usually in our 406 area and often using a "local" number. Rose gets many calls related to her Elecraft case and cover business that she -must- answer. She's had three today … with two being spoofed. We both use G-Mail as our e-mail provider and to G-mail's credit, we get very little SPAM. We also use Norton ... wouldn't be without it. Our internet provider (Century Link) is via cable. FWIW 73! K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail & Spam Robo Calls
I use commercial spam solutions for relief from internet email spammers. Lots of them out there. That's all well and good. The REAL problem for me are robo calls to my home phones and cell phone. I listed both phones on the State of Missouri and the Federal *No Call Lists* years ago. That worked ok for a while, then totally spiraled out of control. Spammers don't pay any attention to the *List* and violations are not enforced. I found a fix in an app called *NOMOROBO* No More Robo (calls). After you sign up for the service, their server spots the fingerprints of incoming spam telephone robo calls on your phone line. My phone rings a partial ring (.5 sec?) then the software at the server end sucks the call off my line and adds it to their national database blacklist. The Caller Id is still displayed on my TV screen, but before I can get my butt out of my chair, the ring stops, telling me not to bother with the call, it's spam. I can't remember how many years I've used NoMoRobo but I was an early adopter and it has been working beautifully for probably 10 years now. The idea was hatched by a couple of guys during a contest to find a solution to annoying Robo Calls (necessary because your local telco doesn't want to help inhibit the use of their paid services). You don't need to load your *white list* phone numbers. There is a free version of NoMoRobo and a paid version. So far, I have seen no need for the paid version. In all this time I only had two callers get wrongly *captured* by the spam software and both were vendors I use who had recently changed their phone number. Calls from my doctor's appointment office, Trash Hauler, etc come right through. While not affiliated with the firm that offers this (I wish I were) I recommend looking it over and deciding for yourself if it suits your needs: www.nomorobo.com 73, Terry WØFM Pardon the bandwidth -Original Message- From: Ken G Kopp [mailto:kengk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 1:58 PM To: w7aqk Cc: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail Hi Dave, + rest of list I've not seen your "Elycraft", but we … both ElecraftCovers (Rose, N7HKW) and me … get lots of e-mail from people wanting to "fix" elecraft.com and bring us more business. I expect Elecraft also gets these same offers. Both of us, for several reasons, need to maintain an old-fashioned wired phone line. We have had the same number for about fifty years and it's published and used from all over the world. Here's what seems to (partially) work for us; we have an answering machine in a speaker-phone that's audible throughout the house. In addition, our satellite TV provider is connected to the TV set … which is usually on (;-) … and the TV screen displays caller ID info. Perhaps ten percent of the calls are legit. Both of us have Verizon cell phones and get -many- calls from spoofed numbers … usually in our 406 area and often using a "local" number. Rose gets many calls related to her Elecraft case and cover business that she -must- answer. She's had three today … with two being spoofed. We both use G-Mail as our e-mail provider and to G-mail's credit, we get very little SPAM. We also use Norton ... wouldn't be without it. Our internet provider (Century Link) is via cable. FWIW 73! K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail
Hi Dave, + rest of list I've not seen your "Elycraft", but we … both ElecraftCovers (Rose, N7HKW) and me … get lots of e-mail from people wanting to "fix" elecraft.com and bring us more business. I expect Elecraft also gets these same offers. Both of us, for several reasons, need to maintain an old-fashioned wired phone line. We have had the same number for about fifty years and it's published and used from all over the world. Here's what seems to (partially) work for us; we have an answering machine in a speaker-phone that's audible throughout the house. In addition, our satellite TV provider is connected to the TV set … which is usually on (;-) … and the TV screen displays caller ID info. Perhaps ten percent of the calls are legit. Both of us have Verizon cell phones and get -many- calls from spoofed numbers … usually in our 406 area and often using a "local" number. Rose gets many calls related to her Elecraft case and cover business that she -must- answer. She's had three today … with two being spoofed. We both use G-Mail as our e-mail provider and to G-mail's credit, we get very little SPAM. We also use Norton ... wouldn't be without it. Our internet provider (Century Link) is via cable. FWIW 73! K0PP On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 8:33 AM, w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > In this day and age it is almost impossible to keep your lines of > communication "pure"! By that, I mean absent of any junk mail, anonymous > callers, etc. For eons my mail box has been a repository for all sorts of > unsolicited junk. Now my email addresses are being overrun as well, and > even my phone keeps ringing with calls for all sorts of unwelcome sources. > It's just about out of control > > Well, I couldn't help saying some thing here because now I am getting > emails from an outfit that identifies itself as "Elycraft"!!! Fortunately, > my spam filter seems to catch most of it, and separate it, but some of it > sneaks directly into my regular mail. Is anyone else getting some of this > from that source? > > The hardest to ignore are the phone calls. And, there are a bunch of > them!!! They are also getting clever by usurping local numbers and area > codes to make it look like they are not what they really are--trash > vendors! Getting rid of them is also impossible. If you block one, they > just switch to a different number!! > > I think this is a crisis! Anyone else agree? > > Dave W7AQK > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail
Bear with me, this is long but it works. My solution was to get a Google Voice phone number and associate it with my “real” phone number. It keeps a record of whoever calls and as a rule I don’t answer unless I know the number - a phone screen. If they leave a voicemail that indicates a telemarketer, I add them to my Google Contacts list as an alternate number for the entry entitled “Telemarketer.” I give my GV number to pretty much everybody now. Only trusted friends get the “real” phone number. Now in my Google Contacts I have a group - an administrative tagging - called “Silent.” No magic in the name, you can call it anything you want. I have instructed Google Voice to NOT ring the phone for any caller in the “Silent” group, but to send them to voicemail directly. Kind of a call forward. And, as you can guess, “Telemarketer” is a member of the Silent group. As a result, all I get is an email notification that I have a missed call from such-and-such number. When I spin through my emails, it’s easy to delete them. (It’s also handy to add annoying relatives to the Silent group so you see that they called, and can respond at your convenience and not theirs. :) ) On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 10:33 w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > In this day and age it is almost impossible to keep your lines of > communication "pure"! By that, I mean absent of any junk mail, anonymous > callers, etc. For eons my mail box has been a repository for all sorts of > unsolicited junk. Now my email addresses are being overrun as well, and > even my phone keeps ringing with calls for all sorts of unwelcome sources. > It's just about out of control > > Well, I couldn't help saying some thing here because now I am getting > emails > from an outfit that identifies itself as "Elycraft"!!! Fortunately, my > spam > filter seems to catch most of it, and separate it, but some of it sneaks > directly into my regular mail. Is anyone else getting some of this from > that source? > > The hardest to ignore are the phone calls. And, there are a bunch of > them!!! They are also getting clever by usurping local numbers and area > codes to make it look like they are not what they really are--trash > vendors! > Getting rid of them is also impossible. If you block one, they just > switch > to a different number!! > > I think this is a crisis! Anyone else agree? > > Dave W7AQK > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT-Junk Mail
Hi All, In this day and age it is almost impossible to keep your lines of communication "pure"! By that, I mean absent of any junk mail, anonymous callers, etc. For eons my mail box has been a repository for all sorts of unsolicited junk. Now my email addresses are being overrun as well, and even my phone keeps ringing with calls for all sorts of unwelcome sources. It's just about out of control Well, I couldn't help saying some thing here because now I am getting emails from an outfit that identifies itself as "Elycraft"!!! Fortunately, my spam filter seems to catch most of it, and separate it, but some of it sneaks directly into my regular mail. Is anyone else getting some of this from that source? The hardest to ignore are the phone calls. And, there are a bunch of them!!! They are also getting clever by usurping local numbers and area codes to make it look like they are not what they really are--trash vendors! Getting rid of them is also impossible. If you block one, they just switch to a different number!! I think this is a crisis! Anyone else agree? Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
