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Guys - This thread is rapidly degenerating into a name calling contest. It is OFFICIALLY ended. Please refrain for further posts criticizing what others are saying. Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator (from time to time..) P.S. As a general note - My dealing with the email from everyone complaining about each other has actually delayed at least 1 K3 shipment today.. Please keep that in mind when posting to the list. - Stan Rife wrote: ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage)
Arrogant, whining twits...that just hit the nail squarely on the head. Good rid dents Julian. Maybe we can get some peace and quiet on the list now. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:20 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) Arrogant? Whining? Twits? I don't see any arguments there for why it is not legitimate to voice one's frustration over optimistic delivery estimates and broken promises. But thanks to your reasoned reply I have now decided to consider cancelling my order. I don't *need* a K3. I have a perfectly good K2. And at this point I wonder why I need a hobby pursued by people who can think of nothing better than hurl insults at others who express opinions they just don't agree with. I'm out of here, too. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf On 07/12/2007, Greg Derda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll finally chime in as well, and AGREE with Jason! We "have to get > used to it"? I've never seen so many arrogant, whining twits in my > entire life!! Get a hobby! I'm outta here as well. > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Yeah, Chris, it's bitching...when you do it day after day after week after week. That's all we hear on the list any more is you and people like you complaining about not having your K3 when you think you should have it. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G3SJJ Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:16 AM Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) Jason, with respect, this is not bitching. All people are asking for is honest and realistic communication from Elecraft. Lies and broken promises are fuelling discontent. People have contacted Elecraft directly and are constantly being fed rubbish. This is yet another email which needn't have been sent if we were kept properly informed. Honesty first, radio whenever. Chris G3SJJ Jason Milldrum wrote: > However, I've become > completely exhausted of this list turning into the "All K3 Bitchfest, > All Of The Time". I understand that some complaining is normal and > justified, but if you truly have so much angst about your declining > perception of the Elecraft mojo, then perhaps it's time to have a chat > with Elecraft directly or cancel your order. The level of whining on > the list has ruined it for me. I understand you all have every right > to be mad...and I might be too if I were in your shoes. However, I > feel that this topic has been allowed to dominate the list to the > detriment of everyone else. > > So, no, I don't have to get used to it. I'm just going to unsubscribe > and wash my hands of this whole mess. I'll look for technical > discussion and advice elsewhere. > > 73, > Jason Milldrum, NT7S ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Not me Greg. I'm finally getting involved in this discussion and I am going to hang around and make life miserable for these miserable little boys who can't have their toys. At least until Eric un-subscribes me. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Derda Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:58 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) I'll finally chime in as well, and AGREE with Jason! We "have to get used to it"? I've never seen so many arrogant, whining twits in my entire life!! Get a hobby! I'm outta here as well. Greg ki4mmm On Dec 7, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Jason Milldrum wrote: > On Dec 7, 2007 7:17 AM, Julian G4ILO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You'll just have to get used to it. > > No, I don't > > I have a great deal of respect for people like you who contribute to > ham radio in a significant and unselfish way. However, I've become > completely exhausted of this list turning into the "All K3 Bitchfest, > All Of The Time". I understand that some complaining is normal and > justified, but if you truly have so much angst about your declining > perception of the Elecraft mojo, then perhaps it's time to have a chat > with Elecraft directly or cancel your order. The level of whining on > the list has ruined it for me. I understand you all have every right > to be mad...and I might be too if I were in your shoes. However, I > feel that this topic has been allowed to dominate the list to the > detriment of everyone else. > > So, no, I don't have to get used to it. I'm just going to unsubscribe > and wash my hands of this whole mess. I'll look for technical > discussion and advice elsewhere. > > 73, > Jason Milldrum, NT7S ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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It's just been confirmed. G4ILO was hired by Yaesu and Icom to create bad publicity for Elecraft. The big 3 just can't fade the heat. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:17 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) On 07/12/2007, R. Kevin Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely! > > The whining level around here is starting to get a little > embarrassing. Some on the reflector sound like a bunch of third grade > girls who've just found out recess is canceled. > > I'm still trying to figure out why people who paid VOLUNTARY deposits > or were in "the first run", or second run, didn't pay deposits, etc, > etc, etc, Ad nauseam, are entitled to a unit by unit run down of > radios going out the door. > > I've also noticed that the most vocal production and inventory > "specialists" aren't in any hurry to cancel their orders. What's the > word I'm looking for...? Never mind it would probably get me > booted off the list. > > A sign of the times we live in I suppose. > The intemperate attitude of some people around here is starting to get a bit irritating. Believe me, there are a lot more people who are unhappy about being kept waiting than you would know from this reflector. And some of the language used in expressing this dissatisfaction privately is sometimes a lot more blunt than has been used here, too. So let's have less of the insults, please. I'm sure Elecraft *is* doing the best it can to fulfil the outstanding orders. Unfortunately the best it can do seems to be falling a little short of what was promised. Two estimates of when my own order would ship have come and gone and now it looks like I'll have to ask for it to be postponed until the new year so that I will be here to receive it. And you wonder why *I* am frustrated? People are not cancelling their orders because they still want this radio, the reports of those lucky few who have received them are good, and because having waited this long it would be stupid to bail out now when there appears to be a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. Even though the glimmer seems to be getting closer with appalling slowness. As Dave W7AQK said, venting is one way of relieving the frustration of waiting. It's human nature. These shipping discussions are only going to be replaced by technical ones when more people have actual K3s to discuss and fewer people are kicking their heels waiting for them. You'll just have to get used to it. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > - -- > R. Kevin Stover, ACØH > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHWViV11jxjloa2wsRAtvbAJ49W7SrxPLxiBGeWagLPvY1BhVtwQCfW7Sg > GE+5KMKdf/szsyF+TfR8cvY= > =XiaF > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Well, they have 3400 dollars of my money, so what. Why don't you people act like responsible adults and leave Elecraft to their work. The only lies that have circulated are by those saying they have been lied to. Elecraft did'nt lie to anyone. A lie is something you tell if you intentionally intend to deceive someone. Do you people think Elecraft intended to deceive you? You people are howling like a bunch of 3rd graders that can't have their toy when they want it. You people must have been hired by Yaesu to try and create some bad publicity for Elecraft. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G3SJJ Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 8:47 AM Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) Don, the long wait is not a problem, even though they have had $1372 of my money for 7 months and not even a personal thank you or apology. *The real problem is the constant lies and broken promises coming out of Aptos, together with the lack of explanation, in fact, virtual silence*. Those of us who placed early orders did so on the basis of the trust built up between Elecraft and its customer base. That trust has been severly damaged, not by the delays but by the breakdown of communication. Many of us had planned various activities involving our K3s. For me initially it was a small Low Power Field Day in July, then it was IARU Region SSB Field Day in September, then it was an SO2R effort in RSGB 21/28MHz Contest in October, then it was lending it to our G5W effort in CQWW, and this weekend it was supposed to be a dual mode, multi op effort in ARRL 10m contest. Each event was planned on the basis of what proved to be mis-information from Aptos. Mid January sees an RSGB contest that I have excelled in over the years. As early as May 14 this year, when I placed my order for a K3/100 plus sub receiver, I began planning for the 2008 event. Even at this this stage I cannot be sure of having my K3, and only in the past week have I had to accept I won't have the sub-rx. The way I found out was an un-announced change on the shipping date. Again going on the scant information, I have delayed arranging a pre-Christmas trip out of the country to be around if or when my K3 is delivered. I am still not sure whether it will be shipped. One person was recently told that his order placed 6 July would be delivered by the end of this year!! Numerous people have been told two weeks for several times. The way I view it at the moment is that shipping came to a halt a week ago, yet not a word. This is not the efficient, honest and friendly service we have become to expect from Elecraft. They have produced a really fantastic product and our hearts go out to the team struggling to meet the rightful demand, but lies and unbroken promises are not helping them or us. Many years ago whilst in sales and marketing of thick film hybrid modules into the defence industry I received a telephone call late one evening from the manufacturing director of a very major defence contractor. His modules were 3 weeks late and no warning or expalanation had been given. If we had told him he could have re-scheduled. I was given huge roasting and needless to say didn't sleep much that night. I did however keep my customers well informed after that. Some honest and realistic information would have prevented this email and most of the preceeding ones Chris G3SJJ Don Wilhelm wrote: > By my count, it does look like there are now at least 30 K3s being > shipped per week over the past 2 week period, judging from the serial > numbers that have been posted on the wiki. > > That means that Don Rasmussen's projections are overly pessimistic. > By my estimate (again judging only from the serial numbers accounted > for), serial number 225 should ship well before Christmas, and they > should have shipped SN 250 before the first of the year. I don't know > how many are in the 1st batch, but most have figured it is less than 250. > > The folks at Aptos are working hard to hone their production > capabilities and get these first orders shipped. It has been a long > period of overtime for all of them. I will get my K3 in due time I am > certain, and I am certainly not going to bug them about it - whining > about it will not hurry the process and may even slow it down. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Dave Yarnes wrote: >> I think it's just that a few folks need to vent a little after the >> long wait. But if you look at the "wiki" list of K3's received, >> output is picking up nicely. I think over 50 K3's are going out now >> each week--maybe more. So everyone needs to hook up their Valium >> drip and take
Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage)
Guys, Please, let's end this thread now. (With respect to criticisms of others etc.) It is totally inappropriate to directly criticize anyone on this list (except of course myself and the company. Its always OK to criticize us. We want to hear it so we can improve our processes here :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ --- Solosko, Robert B (Bob) wrote: Julian, It's just as much of an insult to call the Elecraft crew liars and ac ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Julian, It's just as much of an insult to call the Elecraft crew liars and accuse them of broken promises. Anyone who's ever been involved in product development and ramping up production, especially complex products where you're dependent on suppliers to meet their schedules, know that schedules more often than not slip because of unforeseen circumstances, and even the most pessimistic schedules may in hindsight seem to have been overly optimistic. Please give the Elecraft crew the respect they deserve for designing and getting into production a unique and outstanding product - and please stop insulting them by calling them liars. Bob W1SRB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:20 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage) Arrogant? Whining? Twits? I don't see any arguments there for why it is not legitimate to voice one's frustration over optimistic delivery estimates and broken promises. But thanks to your reasoned reply I have now decided to consider cancelling my order. I don't *need* a K3. I have a perfectly good K2. And at this point I wonder why I need a hobby pursued by people who can think of nothing better than hurl insults at others who express opinions they just don't agree with. I'm out of here, too. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf On 07/12/2007, Greg Derda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll finally chime in as well, and AGREE with Jason! We "have to get > used to it"? I've never seen so many arrogant, whining twits in my > entire life!! Get a hobby! I'm outta here as well. > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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So everyone needs to hook up their Valium drip and take a deep breath. Things will settle down soon. Actually, Valium injection is not water soluble, and cannot be given via IV drip. It must be given via IV push! I get this question all the time! ;-) Dan Allen, RPh KB4ZVM K2 S/N 1757 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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That's also my take on it Joe F.W.I.W. Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:07:05 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Kevin, > >> I'm still trying to figure out why people who paid VOLUNTARY >> deposits or were in "the first run", or second run, didn't pay >> deposits, etc, etc, etc, Ad nauseam, are entitled to a unit by >> unit run down of radios going out the door. >> > I've remained silent on the shipping date issue until today. > However, those in the first batch were told to expect their > radios before the end of October, those in the second batch > before the end of November. It's now well into December and > the first batch is not finished and - at the current rate - > may not be finished before the end of the year given typical > holiday production/shipping schedules. When deliveries are > going to be more than 30 days late (which is obviously the > case here), a vendor owes the customer - particularly customers > with firm orders - a bit more explanation, certainty and > candor than have been visible to date. > > Based on the reported deliveries, Elecraft have shipped an > average of 25 units a week. Even if that jumps to 50 a week > it will be the end of the year before the first 250 units have > all been shipped and late into February before the next 250 > ship. Note I'm not saying "are complete" because there still > is still no clarity on shipping for the second receiver, FM > filter or KDVR3 for many of those orders. > >> I've also noticed that the most vocal production and inventory >> "specialists" aren't in any hurry to cancel their orders. >> > So what? Most of those who have ordered expect the K3 to be > the best performing radio available - that's the reason they > ordered it. They want the radio - why would they cancel their > orders? > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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One comment - when you buy tickets up front for a show, you normally get to join a short queue, or no queue at all. You certainly don't get told "The performance you booked seats for is full, you don't have a seat, come back for tomorrows showing and hope we have the seats you paid for then". On 7/12/07 14:58, "Tom Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > This is the way I see it. > > Waiting for a K3 is like waiting in a long line for a movie. Most people > realize that waiting in line is no fun and have to make a decision on > whether the wait is worth it, or, get out of line. Having made the decision > to wait in line one usually finds a way to distract themselves to put off > the discomfort as much as possible. Unfortunately, there is always someone > in line that decides to stamp their feet and cluck their tongues in an > effort to draw attention to themselves - at the same time looking around for > other like minded people in hopes of substantiating their misery. In the > meantime, the line is moving at a reasonable pace and in the back of your > mind you realize that once inside, these same people will be nitpicking the > movie. > > I have my K3. I just finished putting it together and I can tell you it so > far has surpassed my expectations. It is well worth the wait! > > > > Tom, AK2B > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresa, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein. -H. Jackson Brown, Jr., writer ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Kevin, > I'm still trying to figure out why people who paid VOLUNTARY > deposits or were in "the first run", or second run, didn't pay > deposits, etc, etc, etc, Ad nauseam, are entitled to a unit by > unit run down of radios going out the door. I've remained silent on the shipping date issue until today. However, those in the first batch were told to expect their radios before the end of October, those in the second batch before the end of November. It's now well into December and the first batch is not finished and - at the current rate - may not be finished before the end of the year given typical holiday production/shipping schedules. When deliveries are going to be more than 30 days late (which is obviously the case here), a vendor owes the customer - particularly customers with firm orders - a bit more explanation, certainty and candor than have been visible to date. Based on the reported deliveries, Elecraft have shipped an average of 25 units a week. Even if that jumps to 50 a week it will be the end of the year before the first 250 units have all been shipped and late into February before the next 250 ship. Note I'm not saying "are complete" because there still is still no clarity on shipping for the second receiver, FM filter or KDVR3 for many of those orders. > I've also noticed that the most vocal production and inventory > "specialists" aren't in any hurry to cancel their orders. So what? Most of those who have ordered expect the K3 to be the best performing radio available - that's the reason they ordered it. They want the radio - why would they cancel their orders? 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: not about technical issues (was Shipping StatusPage)
This is the way I see it. Waiting for a K3 is like waiting in a long line for a movie. Most people realize that waiting in line is no fun and have to make a decision on whether the wait is worth it, or, get out of line. Having made the decision to wait in line one usually finds a way to distract themselves to put off the discomfort as much as possible. Unfortunately, there is always someone in line that decides to stamp their feet and cluck their tongues in an effort to draw attention to themselves - at the same time looking around for other like minded people in hopes of substantiating their misery. In the meantime, the line is moving at a reasonable pace and in the back of your mind you realize that once inside, these same people will be nitpicking the movie. I have my K3. I just finished putting it together and I can tell you it so far has surpassed my expectations. It is well worth the wait! Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Don, > By my estimate (again judging only from the serial numbers > accounted for), serial number 225 should ship well before > Christmas, and they should have shipped SN 250 before the > first of the year. That's still extremely frustrating for even those in the "second batch" who ordered based on projected delivery prior to the end of November. If all of the first 200 - 250 will not be out until the end of the year, that means those at the end of the second batch may not even see their radios in time for ARRL DX much less CQWW CW as originally stated (25 per week, 200 - 250 per batch => late February or mid-March to the end of the second run). I've stayed out of the delivery discussions to this point but it looks to me like the current "New K3 orders received after Dec. 5th are targeted for late Feb. delivery." projection is probably overly optimistic ... and this doesn't even address the second receiver or FM filter schedules that seem to have slipped even further. > I don't know how many are in the 1st batch, but most have > figured it is less than 250. Most were counting 200 based on the "low serial number" and deposit discussions. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
