Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
That specific video is available on the Elecraft YouTube channel …. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 30, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > I missed the 3D modeling on the KX2 presentation and perhaps lost the bubble > on watching it. So being able to watch that presentation via Elecraft would > be good. > > Thanks and 73, tom w7sua > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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That is a very good idea Rick. On 8/22/2020 4:29 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest. Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. 73, Rick NK7I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Hi Eric, I missed the 3D modeling on the KX2 presentation and perhaps lost the bubble on watching it. So being able to watch that presentation via Elecraft would be good. Thanks and 73, tom w7sua On 8/22/2020 1:47 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: Hi Adrian, We’re waiting for the recording K4 Q video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page. I’ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Adrian wrote: I add to request for the K4 Q video if available please ? The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q ? Thankyou Adrian Fewster On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-) Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@w7sua.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Hi Wayne, I enjoyed the K4 presentation and the Q that followed. This on-line Ham Expo was a very good idea, especially in this time if travel limits. I still look forward to seeing the K4 in person before finalizing my group 2 purchase. Thanks for the opportunity to comment. 73, tom w7sua Chino Valley AZ On 8/21/2020 4:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to t...@w7sua.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
I think the Ham Expo was a good idea for our current times but I do not see it as a permanent replacement for the in person events. Perhaps going forward, the in person events could have a remote access side like Ham Expo. I particularly enjoyed the Elecraft sessions, much more than the others; they seem to have thought the format through better and also more interesting subject matter (to me at least). I also liked not being crowded out of hearing a good show. 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Ham Expo is an "OK" idea for the "time of COVID", but not a replacement for the live convention or hamfest. I quickly found that the design of the virtual event does fit not my way of learning or operating. I will not specifically address the Elecraft presentations except to say they were much better than most. 1. A few "venues"/talks were great, too many were purely canned promo that I neither needed nor wanted hear again. Other talks were presentations rehashed. Overall there was a startling lack of really new content. 2. It was not possible to "walk around and discover" - the essential small businesses, the idea creators, hobby/business makers, and boneyard folks were not there. 3. Meeting people (particularly new people) in yet another virtual room is not the way to spend a weekend after weeks of Zoom and GoToMeeting teleconferences. Nothing meets the organized or chance in-person encounter. 4. "Influencer" style YouTuber blather really turns me off. I need something to think through and evaluate... unfortunately that has become a norm to some presenters. Many thanks to those who presented material designed to stimulate thought. 5. Commercial venues were "OK". The front end presentation was too "cartoony". Some MFG did better than others in their "in booth" presentations. The cartoony booths were inevitable result of low end virtual technology trying to look like real life... but virtual booths have been there in professional conference and trade show apps for years - it felt stale to me. 6. Agree with the many other comments about the "contest" style promotionals. Organizers need to "go back" to the registration lottery. Forced competition to participate is a symptom of the illness in "radio-sport" - when everything becomes centered on "bragging rights" the braggarts take over. 7. Person hardest issue to deal with was being asked sitting in front of a yet another computer screen for an additional 12 to 18 hours at the end of a rough online week. I have picked a few venues I heard were good and spent time listening to those. My Bottom Line: I won't bother next year without hearing of some significant improvements, particularly an added opportunity for interaction with presenters. Unfortunately mine is a generally negative assessment. The Real Bottom Lines: -How many of the participants actually stayed through during most of the active online event (or spent the 12-18 hours afterwards reviewing it). My guess is a small fraction of those who registered. -Did the sponsors see any significant ROI or did most of it go to the committee that put the Expo together and the virtual convention company that produced it. That last "real bottom line" will tell the tale and probably dictate the future of this event. Jack - KD4IZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
I watched a few track presentations as well as all the sponsor events. Elecraft’s were excellent. I found most of the other companies presentations to be much lower in quality. One demonstration of a product was 30 minutes of interface on a touchscreen that was unreadable and unfocused in the presentation. The overall virtual conference interface was unnecessarily over-animated and thus slow over cell phone data streaming (I was camping at the time). The track videos I watched were better produced by the individual presenters than most companies, and most had good technical advice to pique my interest. Thanks to Elecraft for the opportunity to interface during the KX2 “X-Ray.” I am hearing impaired and was sincerely impressed that this company was willing to look at the possibility of incorporating Bluetooth hearing aid connectivity to their radios as a future opportunity for SSB. The time-delay inherent in Bluetooth for use with CW was something I never considered and I appreciated the tech details provided. Regarding the contest I will make no public statement regarding my communications with the convention’s organizers. There was, eventually, a public posted comment that only ONE gamer was identified and removed. During the first few days of the post “live” session I intentionally acquired enough points, playing the “game,” to be at least 3rd on the board for that day, but never showed up. So much for that. Maybe Elecraft should simply host their own virtual event. The only incentive I need is to be a better Ham, both technically and operationally. Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
As far as my visit to the virtual hamfest, all I know is I miss the good old days already. John K7FD > On Aug 23, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote: > > While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought could > be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback survey I > received not long after the Expo closed. > > * Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo > of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so > I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared > already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out. > * I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3. > It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show > us, component-by-component, how it was designed. > * The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been > said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes > those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who > can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths > and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the > Expo organizers quickly discovered. > * Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early. > By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started, > it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or > other technical issues. > * Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be > available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is > given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even > virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other. > * Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended > the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong > to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she > was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying > to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it. > * The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web > sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why > should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web > sites myself. > * The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit > each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent > enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day > Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena. > > All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept in > hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if some of > the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good option to add > to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we can go back to doing > things in person. I don't see this as a replacement for traditional hamfests, > but it would be nice if I could see one or two forums from Dayton, say, even > if I don't have the money or time to go to Ohio for the fun and games myself. > > 73 de, > > Ian, NV4C > > >> On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially >> for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a >> chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a >> success overall. >> >> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, >> good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether >> Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. >> >> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, >> including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with >> Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) >> >> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nv4c@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to macymonk...@charter.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought could be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback survey I received not long after the Expo closed. * Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out. * I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3. It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show us, component-by-component, how it was designed. * The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the Expo organizers quickly discovered. * Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early. By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started, it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or other technical issues. * Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other. * Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it. * The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web sites myself. * The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena. All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept in hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if some of the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good option to add to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we can go back to doing things in person. I don't see this as a replacement for traditional hamfests, but it would be nice if I could see one or two forums from Dayton, say, even if I don't have the money or time to go to Ohio for the fun and games myself. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to nv4c@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
+1 on the light pollution. As to the Expo: I really enjoyed the presentations. Being virtual there was no reason to overlap them in the way they did. Don't try and emulate a real hamfest. I would have to cut one short to join another over lapping presentation. A few of the presenters needed to work out the technical details of using the SW. One presenter I watched assumed his slides were on the screen, they were not. He would refer to the slides, but his face was on the screen. The navigation was a bit screwy, mostly related to the presenter schedule. Having to pan the exhibit hall was tedious. Make it navigate more like a real website and not a video game. Loved the Elecraft presentations. Bothe the K4 and the KX2 walk though. Makes my mouth water for a K4. The method for giving away the prizes was totally stupid. Should have been a minimum amount of participation and then a random drawing. The point system encouraged bad behavior. i.e. If I was actually watching presentations there was no way I could ever get enough points to qualify. I would have enjoyed being in a drawing, but I spent my time watching presentations. Why make us choose? The people who game the system add ZERO value... len -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kt...@watershipfarm.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 7:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered > attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Virtual couldn't be competitive for those in my position, satellite internet. As it was I had to buy an extra few GBs just to watch what was interesting. If I even wanted to compete the cost would be $100.00 or more. The upside is noise isn't much of an issue. :-) My brother, KG5RZT, has an observatory where the roof opens and there are two large telescopes with massive cameras. Light pollution is slowly starting to spoil things a bit (mostly on the horizon) and I imagine the noise will eventually get here too. You city folks need to kill some of your lights and gizmos. ;-) -- 73, William KT5TE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@ka7ftp.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
> Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered > attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Virtual couldn't be competitive for those in my position, satellite internet. As it was I had to buy an extra few GBs just to watch what was interesting. If I even wanted to compete the cost would be $100.00 or more. The upside is noise isn't much of an issue. :-) My brother, KG5RZT, has an observatory where the roof opens and there are two large telescopes with massive cameras. Light pollution is slowly starting to spoil things a bit (mostly on the horizon) and I imagine the noise will eventually get here too. You city folks need to kill some of your lights and gizmos. ;-) -- 73, William KT5TE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Rick: > On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: > > I agree and there was apparently some cheating involved too, requiring a > resolution after the fact. While I spent the weekend at the Expo, I did not sign up for the ‘contest.’ First, it wasn’t clear how to do that and second, it seemed to me that my preferences for how I intended to spend my time viewing presentations and resulting Q would be counter-productive towards a ‘winning’ score. > > If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so > they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest. > Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. Given that winners have been announced, it would be interesting to see how many points were racked up by the top 10 winners and how they were generated. My hypothesis is that if the focus is on ‘contesting’, then one needs to fully appreciate the rules and determine a strategy for ‘hitting spots’ that maximizes points over the course of the weekend. I suspect that such a strategy would result in lost opportunities to see presentations in full, be involved with Q sessions, chat with vendors on specific topics of interest, peruse materials of interest at various vendors, and simply take full advantage of the opportunity to “talk ham radio’ with those attending. Contesting also introduces stress and a focus on maximizing points/QSOs per unit of time, which is counter to the idea of taking time to fully benefit from the resources being offered at the Expo. Consequently, I ignored the ‘contest’, and I as I would normally do at Hamcation or Hamvention, mapped out in advance the specific presentations I wanted to see and ensured that my iPhone would alert me when a presentation of interest was about to begin. And rather than having to rush to a forum room and squeeze by other attendees to get a seat (as what happens at in-person events), I then sat back on my desk chair and ‘got educated’. If there was a break in the presentation schedule, I checked the various commercial booths that were of interest to me and asked questions/got answers, took a look at the documents being offered at these booths of interest and ended each day feeling that I had spent my time well. Elecraft and others did a great job with their presentations and willingness to ’talk up’ their products. In some respects I learned more at this Expo than at prior hamfests. I suspect this was due to the presenters taping their ’schtick’ which allowed them more carefully plan/script how they using their allocated time and to redo/edit/modify as necessary to make a better product, and there weren’t interruptions/distractions that occur when things are done live. The Q was generally excellent. Now, with all that said, the one thing that a hamfest has that the Expo does not is the face-to-face personal interaction. I look forward to hamfests because of the people and the opportunity to see friends and meet new ones. Yes, I also enjoy the fun of getting there and checking out the flea market looking at the latest/greatest gizmos, and having dinner with friends. Hopefully, we’ll be able to enjoy one another’s company in 2021 at both Orlando and Xenia and every other hamfest in between. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > > 73, > Rick NK7I > > PS I watched after, those days were already filled with family things. Being > able to see what I wanted on my own schedule, really nice. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Not that I care, but I never figured out how one played the game. Part of the abysmal navigation I suppose. With on exception, that I "walked out of", the presentations that I viewed were very good to excellent. I watched many of them after-the-fact. Two of the presenters are personal friends and fellow DX club members. Although we've argued about it in the past, one has convinced me and I've been dragged, kicking and screaming over to the dark side and have started using FT8. To tie this to Elecraft, as I was operating last night, and I mentioned this to my better half, I thought why would I want to replace my K3S, which now sits on fixed frequencies, with a K4 with bells and whistles? Wes N7WS On 8/22/2020 3:18 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising … Grant NQ5T On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Gary, K0CX I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I agree and there was apparently some cheating involved too, requiring a resolution after the fact. If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest. Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. 73, Rick NK7I PS I watched after, those days were already filled with family things. Being able to see what I wanted on my own schedule, really nice. On 8/22/2020 2:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Gary, K0CX I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I think that competitive prize part could just be dropped. If the system wasn't successfully gamed this time, it will be next time. There are plenty of folks around the world with time on their hands to create bots to do just about anything. It just begs for someone to do it and now they will have months to come up with it. It isn't worth the time for the organizers to waste trying to stop it. Regards, Mark On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Grant Youngman wrote: > > According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to > rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and > removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising … > > Grant NQ5T > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising … Grant NQ5T > On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: > > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a > hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. > > Gary, K0CX > > > I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about > trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I had to do 2 presentations. The Q and A was really good I thought and well managed when you consider over 26,000 people registered and about 1/2 of those showed up on Saturday, just like a normal Hamfest. But, yes, I have a list of things I would like to see changed for the one in March. 73, Mike va3mw __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Gary, K0CX I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 1:48 PM Eric Swartz wrote: > We’re waiting for the recording K4 Q video that followed my show talk. the > show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft > YouTube page. > > I’ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q > sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. I pretty much agree with what was said already. I did find the trick to watch the presentations at a different time and full screen. I am eagerly awaiting the recorded Q sessions. I couldn't see them all at the time. I'm a semi-retired engineer and I've used lots of CAD programs, both electrical and mechanical. It was still very interesting to see how you did things with Sketchup Pro. No other supplier has come anywhere close to showing how their engineering process works. It was really interesting to see how you got a balance between free and not functional enough and the big iron stuff that is thousands per seat per year. I am still a little annoyed with them for making what was a free program not free, but I guess you get over it if it meets your needs, technically and financially. I've really enjoyed my communications with all of you, including the developers and engineers on the forums. I've never gotten a tour and demo by the company owner any other place! 73, Mark W7MLG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi Adrian, We’re waiting for the recording K4 Q video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page. I’ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Adrian wrote: > > I add to request for the K4 Q video if available please ? > > The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would > love to see the Q ? > > > Thankyou > > Adrian Fewster > > > >> On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: >> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and >> watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and >> afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and >> winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. >> >> It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through >> and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, >> it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) >> >> Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very >> interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were >> informative. I do wish the Q after Eric’s official Expo presentation had >> been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute >> Q on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. >> >> I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the >> organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they >> were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. >> >> I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m >> looking forward to my K4 :-) >> >> Grant NQ5T >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I thought an overall problem was you couldn't enter a presentation until the exact time it started. I think they should have a "buffer" time, say 5 minutes, where you can enter and wait for the presentation to begin. Second, I didn't care for how the questions were presented. At all of the presentations, the questions managers started at the top, and worked their way through all of the questions, one by one. In a lot of cases the questions were duplicates and had already been answered. It would be nice if after the presentation, someone would go through the remaining questions and try to answer them, and post the results. Maybe 30 minutes is too short for questions about popular topics (like the K4). - 73, John, N0TA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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[I sent this privately to Wayne, but people on the list may like it.] I tried to express my feelings about the expo in their feedback survey. Perhaps prose will work better. I enjoyed it, but I hated not being able to pause presentations or pick them up later.* Online from home isn't the same as in a hall. People come to the door. The phone rings. You name it. What I would like is something to handle these problems AND fix some of the problems with inperson expos. The big problem I see at inperson expos have is conflicting sessions. If all the sessions were available at the beginning, and the Q were scheduled later, attendees could listen to the presentation at their convenience and then show up for the Q if they wanted to. The Q should be recorded and made available ASAP so someone missing the Q could at least hear other people's interactions. I never found a way to make casual contact with old friends. At inperson expos, I work mostly by facial recognition, carefully reading the badge to help recall the name. Being somewhat shy, I generally try to lurk in the background. The online format just didn't work for me. As for the exhibitors, what I get mostly our of inperson expos is the ability to see things "in the flesh". "Oh my, that KX2 is really tiny. Time to get serious about SOTA" kinda thing. That, learning about things I didn't know existed, and buying connectors etc. from the vendors are the reasons I visit the vendors. Oh yes, and saying Hi to old friends like the people from Elecraft. 73 Bill AE6JV * I fixed this problem by reading the HTML of the page and finding the uTube link to the presentation. My inner computer hacker come out. On 8/21/20 at 7:47 PM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) --- Bill Frantz| If you want total security, go to prison. There you're 408-348-7900 | fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only www.pwpconsult.com | thing lacking is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I appreciate your asking for public feedback first and foremost. The event was well done given it was its inaugural occurrence. Wasn't a fan that the prize system could be so easily gamed. My suggestion that attendees perform some number of requisite activities to then be entered in a random drawing for the prizes. Keeps those from creating bots or "just passing through for the points" at bay. I very much enjoyed the K4 presentation as well as the 3D KX3 presentation. I especially liked the "layered" approach to the K4 content. The prepared video followed by a live Zoom session with Eric. I makes sense to do the overview in a prepared format. My suggestion for next time is to add a FAQ section to the end of the overview to demonstrate close up and with detailed explanations as to the key features and functions you want to highlight. The hope would be to remove those questions from the interactive session by dealing with them in advance. The Zoom session was simply outstanding. Not just for the generosity of Eric's time as he took all questions asked, but his willing to be straight up and forthright regarding the 1st round of K4 shipments. That built a lot of trust with me. The only thing I would change would be to have the camera that was positioned to present the hands on demonstrations in a better spot to get a better view of the "button pushing" in action. I also liked that the Elecraft chat room always had several persons readily available to answer questions. In some chat rooms, you had one person constantly getting bombarded by attendees with questions and they couldn't keep up. Each rep highlighted their expertise (classic lines, KX, amps) in their descriptions so you could direct you questions to the person best suited to provide an answer. That alone made the process of getting questions answered easier and was a very thoughtful touch. Overall, great job. Best 73 as I save for my K4. Mike N9YB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The event was free and enjoyable. Being able to interact via chat with reps from different companies was a great idea. The prerecorded presentations were for the most part great. The site navigation needs to be improved, especially on an iPad. The text chat on the iPad had the last line of text in a long chat obscured by the text entry window where you enter your own text. Also default view of a booth did not show the navigation bar underneath. You needed to take your finger and drag the window down to see it. The Chat button should be more prominent and not all the way to the right. These are things that can be fixed for next time. Again, in the crazy world we live in now it was enjoyable to have some time to take our mind away to better thoughts (buying a new radio or amp). Dave wo2x __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi Wayne, A thumbs up here. I was disappointed that I couldn’t watch the presentations live with my tablet (still not sure why? Probably cockpit error here!) but the format of leaving the presentations on line is a good idea. I am also disappointed that I missed most the Q sessions. The few that I did catch seemed to be as informative as the presentations themselves. It would be nice to have them on line also. I didn’t spend much time in the booth as I already run a K3s/KPA1500 and don’t need to even think of the K4 in the short term :-). 73, Bill WE5P Comfortably Numb > On Aug 22, 2020, at 07:19, Jay Rutherford wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, > and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found > the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than > Elecraft's booth. > > I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of > the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup > software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the > market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it > was nice that it ended at 30 minutes. > > Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were > pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do > that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to > find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the > weekend. > > I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think > this an acceptable substitute. > > 73 > Jay K3BH > K2, now 20+ years old > KX2 > KX3 > >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, >> especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to weave...@usermail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi, I enjoyed the Ham Expo with plenty to see along with presentations from various vendors. Getting to grips with the navigation was relatively straight forward although the chat room got a little busy until I realised I could turn parts of it off. Overall, it was more or less what I expected. Not too fussed about joining in the kids game of collecting points. My specific interest was the K4 presentations which Eric made look so easy with his laid back style. I did get a bit confused with some of the questions being raised as many were not on the on-line list of questions. I presumed that they had been raised in advance although at one point I suspected they had come from the Elecraft chat room. It did not detract me from enjoying "the show", especially as I had three questions addressed. Many other queries I had were answered as part of the presentation in a pleasant straight forward manner. Your 3D presentation was absolutely fascinating, what more can I say? I got the impression Scott was caught on the hop but did his best. Eric Guth was great Several questions were answered in text mode within the chat box by someone else. Unfortunately, I had a fleeting glance of one of my questions being answered before it all disappeared at the end of the presentation. It would be nice to see the text within the questions list be published alongside some of the other Q sessions. I appreciate that this may be technically difficult as well as the possibility of the requirement for "plausible deniability", said with tongue in cheek! Many thanks for all the effort put in, it made for a pleasant experience after so long in lockdown. 73 G8BYB Andrew Hebden -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: 22 August 2020 00:48 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to st...@ahebden.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Greetings all, I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than Elecraft's booth. I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it was nice that it ended at 30 minutes. Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the weekend. I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think this an acceptable substitute. 73 Jay K3BH K2, now 20+ years old KX2 KX3 On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, > especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I really liked ALL of the elecraft presentations, and most of the others. Wayne's had a particularly intimate feel to it, which was very different, whereas Eric's was still great, just a more formal, polished approach. Dave's journey into the classic line was very entertaining. I am very frustrated that the K4 Q hasn't been posted. The FT units are out there, but we still don't have any idea, really, if the K4 will be the K400lb elephant in the room, or a really good rig that is just the K point on a ski jump with a superb user interface. Is it worth two 7610s? Will PureSignal become a reality soon, or a wish sandwich likeFlex? Is the promised superb NR and NB going to happen? Why not an informal tour of a FT unit being used? Show us the operation, not just the features. Did I hear Eric say the control of a K4 from a tablet, promised at Dayton, will now be done by some third party through API's provided by Elecraft? I heard Eric say a lot of "we hope to's in re the K4's Vhf/Uhf board and other things. I know you can't preannounce future features, but put some sticks in the ground! Commit to a 2m board--there are many times more 2m weak-signal ops--and big guns--than 70cm ops. Finally, there should be a commitment to intelligent fan control for the KPA1500 while I'm whining. Even QC25s don't quiet the RF deck fans. Other amps do it. I thought navigation from the virtual hanfest was terrible--at least from a smart phone. Why make it an Adventure game? Hyperlink the list of speakers to their presentation--forget the track rubrick. My voice has been heard on that issue. My 2 sheets of lettuce. 73 Eric WD6DBM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I really like the presentation style of both Wayne and Eric. Far better than the “death by PowerPoint” presentations that I left behind when I retired nearly 10 years ago. 73 Dave G4AON -- Sent from my iPhone SE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I add to request for the K4 Q video if available please ? The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q ? Thankyou Adrian Fewster On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-) Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-) Grant NQ5T > On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially > for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a > chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a > success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, > bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether > Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, > including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with > Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Agreed on all points. OK if I distill this down and share it with Margaret and Eric? (Both Erics, actually.) Wayne elecraft.com > On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Keith Onishi wrote: > > Hello Wayne, > > I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D > modeling. Both were really excellent. > I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus > some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to > participants’ questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an > engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention > like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested > and useful. > The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio > manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. > The session was more than I expected. > > Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions. > > 73 de JH3SIF > > Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi > Sent from iPad > >> 2020/08/22 8:50、Wayne Burdick のメール: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially >> for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a >> chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a >> success overall. >> >> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, >> good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether >> Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. >> >> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, >> including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with >> Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) >> >> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jh3...@sumaq.jp > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Hello Wayne, I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D modeling. Both were really excellent. I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to participants’ questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested and useful. The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. The session was more than I expected. Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions. 73 de JH3SIF Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi Sent from iPad > 2020/08/22 8:50、Wayne Burdick のメール: > > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially > for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a > chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a > success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, > bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether > Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, > including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with > Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jh3...@sumaq.jp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants
Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
