Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-21 Thread Lyn Norstad
"As hams, we do what we can. especially those of us who live in areas 
where it's rare to get lightning more than once a year if that much."

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

*
Which prompted me to find out where those areas are:

https://geology.com/articles/lightning-map.shtml


73
Lyn, W0LEN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-21 Thread Gary Memory
Many years ago I contracted with Motorola for a large repeater
communications system/building to be located at an existing tower facility
that was already called home to dozens of other radio systems.  The
Motorola R-56 standard was the 'bible' they quoted from and used.  I have
personally used that same method many times since then.  It works for me.
Your mileage may vary.

Gary, N7BRJ


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 4:28 PM Bob McGraw  wrote:

> If one is grounding on the inside for lightning, you best think
> otherwise!Any and all grounding for lightning should be done outside
> of the structure.  You should have lightning protection devices on all
> coax, balanced, and rotor lines installed BEFORE they enter the structure.
>
> Internal grounding or bonding is to keep all equipment at the same
> potential.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:11:57 +0200
> From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
> To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique
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> Having a bus that runs the length of an operating desk with all the
> equipment connected to it by short straps is not that different from
> bonding each piece of equipment to the ones next to it. But it allows
> you to remove one unit without breaking the "chain."
> This is contrasted to the "star" system, in which each piece of
> equipment is grounded to a central point with a relatively long ground
> lead.
>
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> CWops #5
> Formerly K2VCO
> https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
> On 20/03/2021 17:57, Wes wrote:
>
> > Interesting.? I don't have (and probably won't buy) the book, but here
> > we have a disconnect---no pun intended.
> >
> > If Rick's comment is accurate, and I have no reason to think otherwise,
> > then what it states is in direct conflict with what one co-author (K9YC)
> > has preached for years, that each box should connect to the next and
> > there is only one connected to the ground system.? He even calls it
> > madness to use individual connections to a common ground bus.
> >
> > This pretty much sums up why I'm not in the market for the book.
> >
> > Wes? N7WS
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/2021 2:44 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:
> >> The ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is very clear.? Each piece of
> >> gear has its OWN wire/strap to a common grounding point (a copper pipe
> >> mounted on a wall is a common method, that being connected to the
> >> system ground; everything to the building safety ground, more ground
> >> rods every 2x the depth of the rod).
> >>
> >> Look at it this way, say a discharge comes in through your antenna,
> >> into the radio, connected to your computer and other devices.? Would
> >> you prefer that energy goes only through the radio to ground (losing
> >> the radio) or in a series through everything else in the shack too?
> >> The 'fan' mode you mention is preferred, give that energy EVERY chance
> >> to seek ground BEFORE it passes through your gear.
> >>
> >> Energy shunts (PolyPhase devises for example) at the antenna entry
> >> point are another must.? One per feed.
> >>
> >> I suggest reading that book, several times (it's complex) for a better
> >> understanding.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Rick NK7I
> >>
> >> On 3/19/2021 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
> >>> It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the
> >>> shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires
> >>> are run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run
> >>> from each piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a
> >>> common ground point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits
> >>> of these two approaches to running grounds in the shack?
> >>> ...robert
>
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[Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-21 Thread Bob McGraw
If one is grounding on the inside for lightning, you best think 
otherwise!    Any and all grounding for lightning should be done outside 
of the structure.  You should have lightning protection devices on all 
coax, balanced, and rotor lines installed BEFORE they enter the structure.


Internal grounding or bonding is to keep all equipment at the same 
potential.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:11:57 +0200
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Having a bus that runs the length of an operating desk with all the
equipment connected to it by short straps is not that different from
bonding each piece of equipment to the ones next to it. But it allows
you to remove one unit without breaking the "chain."
This is contrasted to the "star" system, in which each piece of
equipment is grounded to a central point with a relatively long ground lead.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
CWops #5
Formerly K2VCO
https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 20/03/2021 17:57, Wes wrote:


Interesting.? I don't have (and probably won't buy) the book, but here
we have a disconnect---no pun intended.

If Rick's comment is accurate, and I have no reason to think otherwise,
then what it states is in direct conflict with what one co-author (K9YC)
has preached for years, that each box should connect to the next and
there is only one connected to the ground system.? He even calls it
madness to use individual connections to a common ground bus.

This pretty much sums up why I'm not in the market for the book.

Wes? N7WS


On 3/19/2021 2:44 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:

The ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is very clear.? Each piece of
gear has its OWN wire/strap to a common grounding point (a copper pipe
mounted on a wall is a common method, that being connected to the
system ground; everything to the building safety ground, more ground
rods every 2x the depth of the rod).

Look at it this way, say a discharge comes in through your antenna,
into the radio, connected to your computer and other devices.? Would
you prefer that energy goes only through the radio to ground (losing
the radio) or in a series through everything else in the shack too?
The 'fan' mode you mention is preferred, give that energy EVERY chance
to seek ground BEFORE it passes through your gear.

Energy shunts (PolyPhase devises for example) at the antenna entry
point are another must.? One per feed.

I suggest reading that book, several times (it's complex) for a better
understanding.

73,
Rick NK7I

On 3/19/2021 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:

It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the
shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires
are run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run
from each piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a
common ground point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits
of these two approaches to running grounds in the shack?
...robert


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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-21 Thread Phil Kane

On 3/21/2021 1:58 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

Note that commercial communications is VHF/UHF, with vertical antennas 
at the top of towers, often on mountaintops. Our antenna systems and 
site locations are often rather different. Take these differences into 
account when applying them to our stations, which may be VERY different. 
Their antennas, for example, are all vertical sticks on a tower.


Point well taken. and the vast majority of our LMR clients' sites are a 
mixture of vertical antennas, corner reflectors, small yagis, and 
microwave dishes.  The cost of the ground system is a fraction of the 
costs of the infrastructure and equipment including labor.


As hams, we do what we can. especially those of us who live in areas 
where it's rare to get lightning more than once a year if that much.


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-21 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/20/2021 8:05 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

Commercial communication site practice


Note that commercial communications is VHF/UHF, with vertical antennas 
at the top of towers, often on mountaintops. Our antenna systems and 
site locations are often rather different. Take these differences into 
account when applying them to our stations, which may be VERY different. 
Their antennas, for example, are all vertical sticks on a tower.


I had the experience of setting up a ham station at a decommissioned 
AT Long Lines microwave site on a 3,000 ft peak with a 140 ft tower 
(36 ft square at the base, 24 ft square at the top), and studied their 
grounding. VERY different application, VERY different budget. They spent 
$1Meg on the road to the site. Walls were 14-in thick, and removable to 
allow the installation of equipment. Grounding was textbook for THEIR 
system, which was all microwave dishes.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-20 Thread Phil Kane

On 3/19/2021 5:47 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:


Home runs from each piece to the bus bar.

If mounting in a metal rack, bond each piece to the rack and then home runs
from each rack to the bus bar.


Commercial communication site practice is to have a "halo" - 
large-diameter wire or bus bar - all around the walls and tie each rack, 
stand-alone box, conduit, cable ladder, etc. to the "halo".  This is 
then connected to a similar grounding system buried around the perimeter 
of the building tied to ground rods per code.  Sounds tedious but that's 
what keeps the facility safe.


With thanks to my late colleague, Tom Croda, the recognized national 
expert in the field of comm site power and grounding, who came to work 
for my firm after retiring from Sprint and proceeded to teach us the 
right way to do those things.


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-20 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/20/2021 8:57 AM, Wes wrote:
If Rick's comment is accurate, and I have no reason to think otherwise, 
then what it states is in direct conflict with what one co-author (K9YC) 
has preached for years, that each box should connect to the next and 
there is only one connected to the ground system.  He even calls it 
madness to use individual connections to a common ground bus.


Ward's text on this topic does, include my recommendations for 
"daisy-chain" bonding of interconnected equipment, but also downgrades 
it in favor of a star WITHIN THE STATION, and with an emphasis on 
keeping bonding connections short. He includes a photo I provided of 
W6GJB's neatly packaged station for his contesting trailer, showing a 
copper pape bonding bus just behind the equipment, with bonding 
conductors to it from each piece of gear. The emphasis is on keeping 
bonding conductors very short, both to minimize power line buzz and 
potential differences between equipment in a lightning event. He shows 
how an Al sheet laid on top of the operating desk can serve as both a 
bonding plane and minimize induction onto cables laid on it. And he has 
incorporated my advice that the loop area of interconnecting cables and 
bonding cables should be minimized to prevent magnetic coupling by 
bundling or lacing them together.


There's also very good text on proper shield connections (the Pin One 
Problem), bypassing of unshielded conductors at penetrations of 
enclosures. There's material on the use of ferrite chokes to prevent RF 
in the shack, how to deal with end-fed antennas with a feedpoint in the 
shack, and lots of other good stuff.


Another goal, covered in the last chapter which is not yet done, is to 
address second floor shacks. Outside the shack, there's very good 
discussion of towers, bonding of the entire premises, ground rods, 
connection methods, and so on. Everything conforms to NEC and good 
engineering practice.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-20 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Having a bus that runs the length of an operating desk with all the 
equipment connected to it by short straps is not that different from 
bonding each piece of equipment to the ones next to it. But it allows 
you to remove one unit without breaking the "chain."
This is contrasted to the "star" system, in which each piece of 
equipment is grounded to a central point with a relatively long ground lead.


73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
CWops #5
Formerly K2VCO
https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 20/03/2021 17:57, Wes wrote:
Interesting.  I don't have (and probably won't buy) the book, but here 
we have a disconnect---no pun intended.


If Rick's comment is accurate, and I have no reason to think otherwise, 
then what it states is in direct conflict with what one co-author (K9YC) 
has preached for years, that each box should connect to the next and 
there is only one connected to the ground system.  He even calls it 
madness to use individual connections to a common ground bus.


This pretty much sums up why I'm not in the market for the book.

Wes  N7WS


On 3/19/2021 2:44 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:
The ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is very clear.  Each piece of 
gear has its OWN wire/strap to a common grounding point (a copper pipe 
mounted on a wall is a common method, that being connected to the 
system ground; everything to the building safety ground, more ground 
rods every 2x the depth of the rod).


Look at it this way, say a discharge comes in through your antenna, 
into the radio, connected to your computer and other devices.  Would 
you prefer that energy goes only through the radio to ground (losing 
the radio) or in a series through everything else in the shack too?  
The 'fan' mode you mention is preferred, give that energy EVERY chance 
to seek ground BEFORE it passes through your gear.


Energy shunts (PolyPhase devises for example) at the antenna entry 
point are another must.  One per feed.


I suggest reading that book, several times (it's complex) for a better 
understanding.


73,
Rick NK7I

On 3/19/2021 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the 
shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires 
are run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run 
from each piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a 
common ground point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits 
of these two approaches to running grounds in the shack?

...robert

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-20 Thread Wes
Interesting.  I don't have (and probably won't buy) the book, but here we have a 
disconnect---no pun intended.


If Rick's comment is accurate, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then 
what it states is in direct conflict with what one co-author (K9YC) has preached 
for years, that each box should connect to the next and there is only one 
connected to the ground system.  He even calls it madness to use individual 
connections to a common ground bus.


This pretty much sums up why I'm not in the market for the book.

Wes  N7WS


On 3/19/2021 2:44 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:
The ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is very clear.  Each piece of gear has 
its OWN wire/strap to a common grounding point (a copper pipe mounted on a 
wall is a common method, that being connected to the system ground; everything 
to the building safety ground, more ground rods every 2x the depth of the rod).


Look at it this way, say a discharge comes in through your antenna, into the 
radio, connected to your computer and other devices.  Would you prefer that 
energy goes only through the radio to ground (losing the radio) or in a series 
through everything else in the shack too?  The 'fan' mode you mention is 
preferred, give that energy EVERY chance to seek ground BEFORE it passes 
through your gear.


Energy shunts (PolyPhase devises for example) at the antenna entry point are 
another must.  One per feed.


I suggest reading that book, several times (it's complex) for a better 
understanding.


73,
Rick NK7I

On 3/19/2021 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the shack: FAN 
- from a common ground point, individual grounding wires are run to each 
piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run from each piece of 
equipment to the next and eventually ending in a common ground point. What's 
the group wisdom on the relative merits of these two approaches to running 
grounds in the shack?

...robert


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[Elecraft] Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Bob McGraw
I suppose one should initially define "best" .    I take the approach 
that the NEC code is to be followed under any and all conditions.


As to general station configuration I refer you to the work of Jim 
Brown, K9YC.  He has done extensive work and produced publications on 
the topic.    He advocates the LINKING approach also known as daisy 
chain connection to a common ground point. With each ground conductor 
having a few milliohms of resistance, we find total resistance is the 
sum of the individual resistances.   R total = R1 + R2  + R3 + ...


I prefer to use the FAN approach or STAR ground system. The station 
power supply ground is the common point for each piece of station 
equipment to be connected with a dedicated ground conductor.  With each 
ground conductor connected to a common point we then find the total 
resistance is resistors in parallel.  R total = R1*R2/R1 + R2  or


R total = 1/ [(1/r1) +(1/r2) + (1/r3)]. In this case the total R 
is less than that of the lowest value resistance present.


Just be sure all feed lines and rotor lines have lightning protection 
devices on each one and they are outside of the house. Any driven ground 
MUST be bonded to the AC Mains ground for the service.   This is a 
requirement of the NEC.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the 
shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires are 
run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run from each 
piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a common ground 
point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits of these two 
approaches to running grounds in the shack? ...robert


-- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa
Syracuse, New York, USA

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
Home runs from each piece to the bus bar.

If mounting in a metal rack, bond each piece to the rack and then home runs
from each rack to the bus bar.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Julia Tuttle
Whoa, nice! Can you let the list know when it's available? I'd love to pick
up a copy.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 19:22 Jim Brown  wrote:

> As it happens, Ward and I are putting the finishing touches on the
> second edition. The first one is very goodd, the second will be even better.
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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/19/2021 2:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

Personally, I would re-read the appropriate chapter in the ARRL Grounding and 
Bonding book. That explains the goal of bonding equipment and gives best 
practices. This book will be the best $23 you spend on grounding and bonding. 
I’ve already read it twice, but there is no way to remember the whole thing, so 
I always refer back to it.

https://www.arrl.org/shop/Grounding-and-Bonding-for-the-Radio-Amateur


As it happens, Ward and I are putting the finishing touches on the 
second edition. The first one is very good, the second will be even better.


My take on it, about five years ago, are in this slide pdf for talks 
I've done at Pacificon, Visalia, and some clubs.


http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Rick NK7I
The ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is very clear.  Each piece of 
gear has its OWN wire/strap to a common grounding point (a copper pipe 
mounted on a wall is a common method, that being connected to the system 
ground; everything to the building safety ground, more ground rods every 
2x the depth of the rod).


Look at it this way, say a discharge comes in through your antenna, into 
the radio, connected to your computer and other devices.  Would you 
prefer that energy goes only through the radio to ground (losing the 
radio) or in a series through everything else in the shack too?  The 
'fan' mode you mention is preferred, give that energy EVERY chance to 
seek ground BEFORE it passes through your gear.


Energy shunts (PolyPhase devises for example) at the antenna entry point 
are another must.  One per feed.


I suggest reading that book, several times (it's complex) for a better 
understanding.


73,
Rick NK7I

On 3/19/2021 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the 
shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires 
are run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run 
from each piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a 
common ground point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits of 
these two approaches to running grounds in the shack?

...robert

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Re: [Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Walter Underwood
Personally, I would re-read the appropriate chapter in the ARRL Grounding and 
Bonding book. That explains the goal of bonding equipment and gives best 
practices. This book will be the best $23 you spend on grounding and bonding. 
I’ve already read it twice, but there is no way to remember the whole thing, so 
I always refer back to it.

https://www.arrl.org/shop/Grounding-and-Bonding-for-the-Radio-Amateur

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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the shack: FAN 
> - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires are run to each 
> piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run from each piece of 
> equipment to the next and eventually ending in a common ground point. What's 
> the group wisdom on the relative merits of these two approaches to running 
> grounds in the shack?
> ...robert
> -- 
> Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY
> rc...@verizon.net.usa
> Syracuse, New York, USA
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[Elecraft] best grounding technique

2021-03-19 Thread Robert G Strickland via Elecraft
It seems that there are two ways of running grounding wires in the 
shack: FAN - from a common ground point, individual grounding wires are 
run to each piece of equipment; LINKING - a ground wire is run from each 
piece of equipment to the next and eventually ending in a common ground 
point. What's the group wisdom on the relative merits of these two 
approaches to running grounds in the shack?

...robert
--
Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY
rc...@verizon.net.usa
Syracuse, New York, USA

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