Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. It isn't about AB once or twice. Brian/K3KO David Robertson wrote: Put me in favor of having the 2/1 tap operation menu selectable. That way everyone is happy 73 Dave KD1NA K3 #934 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Amen, this is a feature that is needed. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: Brian Alsop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. It isn't about AB once or twice. Brian/K3KO David Robertson wrote: Put me in favor of having the 2/1 tap operation menu selectable. That way everyone is happy 73 Dave KD1NA K3 #934 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Brian, If that is the case, please tell us what specific transceivers you have used. Split allows on to transmit on the VFO B frequency (and mode?) while non-split operation transmits on VFO A. My K3 works like that, my K2 works like that, as do my Yaesu FT-900 and FT-847. I don't believe anything else is needed or desired - and I want it that way. I do not want SPLIT to change the VFO B contents in any way. None of my radios do that and I am quite happy with it that way. What would *you* like the SPLIT button to do? 73, Don W3FPR Brian Alsop wrote: Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. It isn't about AB once or twice. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:06:39 -0500, Jim Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen, this is a feature that is needed. Jim K4JAF [snip] Seems there are some folks out there that believe the rest of us should have it their way and not be able to choose which way we want it to be. The selection method would allow us to all be happy. The point, as I see it, is not how it was on a previous rig we owned, but how we would like the K3 to be going forward. 73, Tom, N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. No, you are missing the issue. Split should ONLY turn split On/Off. Pressing A-B should copy BOTH frequency and Mode from VFO A to VFO B. I don't want VFO B reset every time I turn split On/Off. Rigs from the big three do not reset VFO B every time split is turned on/off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:39 AM Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. It isn't about AB once or twice. Brian/K3KO David Robertson wrote: Put me in favor of having the 2/1 tap operation menu selectable. That way everyone is happy 73 Dave KD1NA K3 #934 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Joe, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. So *no*, the AB should *not* necessarily copy mode and filters every time it is tapped. If you want to copy everything, tap it twice - makes perfect sense to me. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. No, you are missing the issue. Split should ONLY turn split On/Off. Pressing A-B should copy BOTH frequency and Mode from VFO A to VFO B. I don't want VFO B reset every time I turn split On/Off. Rigs from the big three do not reset VFO B every time split is turned on/off. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
It’s obvious that these is a strong difference of opinion on how the AB Button should work. Rather than one group shove THEIR idea of how it SHOULD work down the other group’s throat it would seem that Elecraft would be well advised to terminate this discussion and make this user-configurable. 73--→ Dave, W9ZRX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Don, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. Why do you insist on saying mode and filters? You are NOT listening to what I'm saying ... and completely twisting what I want to accomplish. The tap dance has its place, but mode should be copied with frequency. Filters, receive antenna, preamp, AGC, etc. are separate issue. With the CW + SSB option to handle cross mode operation, mode should be copied with frequency - *NOT* with the auxiliary settings. As is stands, there is no convenient way to set up the mode of VFO B. If one uses a single tap, only the frequency is set. With the double tap, ALL parameters (mode, filters, AGC, VOX, RX Ant, etc.) are copied. It is counterproductive to reset the ancillary settings just to set the VFO B frequency to that of VFO A but mode is generally a function of frequency. There must be a simple way to set up VFO B when it's on another mode/frequency and the user needs to go split. B Set, mode, mode, mode, B Set is neither simple nor intuitive. It is too easy to forget or mess up in the heat of battle when trying to set up for split. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B Joe, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. So *no*, the AB should *not* necessarily copy mode and filters every time it is tapped. If you want to copy everything, tap it twice - makes perfect sense to me. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. No, you are missing the issue. Split should ONLY turn split On/Off. Pressing A-B should copy BOTH frequency and Mode from VFO A to VFO B. I don't want VFO B reset every time I turn split On/Off. Rigs from the big three do not reset VFO B every time split is turned on/off. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Joe, I did understand what you said - there have been proposals all over the field and there are varying opinions in every corner. If you believe that mode should be copied with the frequency, an appeal to Wayne with that specific request might get some attention, but I certainly cannot predict the outcome. Many minds have contributed already to the production of the current operation, and your solution while IMHO worth considering, was not the outcome of the previous exercise. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Don, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. Why do you insist on saying mode and filters? You are NOT listening to what I'm saying ... and completely twisting what I want to accomplish. The tap dance has its place, but mode should be copied with frequency. Filters, receive antenna, preamp, AGC, etc. are separate issue. With the CW + SSB option to handle cross mode operation, mode should be copied with frequency - *NOT* with the auxiliary settings. As is stands, there is no convenient way to set up the mode of VFO B. If one uses a single tap, only the frequency is set. With the double tap, ALL parameters (mode, filters, AGC, VOX, RX Ant, etc.) are copied. It is counterproductive to reset the ancillary settings just to set the VFO B frequency to that of VFO A but mode is generally a function of frequency. There must be a simple way to set up VFO B when it's on another mode/frequency and the user needs to go split. B Set, mode, mode, mode, B Set is neither simple nor intuitive. It is too easy to forget or mess up in the heat of battle when trying to set up for split. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B Joe, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. So *no*, the AB should *not* necessarily copy mode and filters every time it is tapped. If you want to copy everything, tap it twice - makes perfect sense to me. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Most of you are missing the issue. The issue is that pressing SPLIT should do it all in one press. The three past rigs I've owned from the big three all did this. No, you are missing the issue. Split should ONLY turn split On/Off. Pressing A-B should copy BOTH frequency and Mode from VFO A to VFO B. I don't want VFO B reset every time I turn split On/Off. Rigs from the big three do not reset VFO B every time split is turned on/off. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 9/14/2008 7:16 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
I did understand what you said - there have been proposals all over the field and there are varying opinions in every corner. If you understood what I was saying, you were misrepresenting it. The bottom line, MODE should be copied with FREQUENCY, the other settings belong with either the second tap or left for B set, setting B set procedure. It's frequency and mode that matter when setting up for split. If the user has a KRX3 and is doing dual or duplex, the second receiver will likely have other settings (filter, RX Ant, AGC, etc.) that should not be changed and they will need B set, setting, B set in any case. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B Joe, I did understand what you said - there have been proposals all over the field and there are varying opinions in every corner. If you believe that mode should be copied with the frequency, an appeal to Wayne with that specific request might get some attention, but I certainly cannot predict the outcome. Many minds have contributed already to the production of the current operation, and your solution while IMHO worth considering, was not the outcome of the previous exercise. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Don, In addition, there are several top operators who do *not* want the mode and filters copied from VFO A to VFO B every time. That was why the 2-button tap was introduced. Why do you insist on saying mode and filters? You are NOT listening to what I'm saying ... and completely twisting what I want to accomplish. The tap dance has its place, but mode should be copied with frequency. Filters, receive antenna, preamp, AGC, etc. are separate issue. With the CW + SSB option to handle cross mode operation, mode should be copied with frequency - *NOT* with the auxiliary settings. As is stands, there is no convenient way to set up the mode of VFO B. If one uses a single tap, only the frequency is set. With the double tap, ALL parameters (mode, filters, AGC, VOX, RX Ant, etc.) are copied. It is counterproductive to reset the ancillary settings just to set the VFO B frequency to that of VFO A but mode is generally a function of frequency. There must be a simple way to set up VFO B when it's on another mode/frequency and the user needs to go split. B Set, mode, mode, mode, B Set is neither simple nor intuitive. It is too easy to forget or mess up in the heat of battle when trying to set up for split. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: If you understood what I was saying, you were misrepresenting it. The bottom line, MODE should be copied with FREQUENCY, the other settings belong with either the second tap or left for B set, setting B set procedure. It's frequency and mode that matter when setting up for split. If the user has a KRX3 and is doing dual or duplex, the second receiver will likely have other settings (filter, RX Ant, AGC, etc.) that should not be changed and they will need B set, setting, B set in any case. How can you copy mode without copying bandwidth? Maybe it would have to be something like if the mode is different, also copy the b/w, otherwise not. Confusing. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B [END of Thread]
Guys, Let's end this thread for now. If you have very specific suggestions, please email them directly to wayne. Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator _..._ -Original Message- From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 12:48 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A/B To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Elecraft' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: If you understood what I was saying, you were misrepresenting it. The bottom line, MODE should be copied with FREQUENCY, the other settings belong with either the second tap or left for B set, setting B set procedure. It's frequency and mode that matter when setting up for split. If the user has a KRX3 and is doing dual or duplex, the second receiver will likely have other settings (filter, RX Ant, AGC, etc.) that should not be changed and they will need B set, setting, B set in any case. How can you copy mode without copying bandwidth? Maybe it would have to be something like if the mode is different, also copy the b/w, otherwise not. Confusing. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VFO A/B mode/filter settings
Bill, Tap AB twice. This was introduced several versions of the firmware back. The folks who are operating cross mode do not want the mode transferred, only the frequency, but other situations require that the full contents are copied. So tap once to transfer only the frequency and tap twice to transfer everything. 73, Don W3FPR Bill W5WVO wrote: Seems like there must be an easy way to do this, but I don't seem to know it. Help, please: I want to be able to copy the mode and filter settings from one VFO to the other. For example, I have VFO A set up for narrow-band SSB reception. But when I copy VFO AB, only the frequency is copied. The previous mode and filter settings for VFO B remain. I can see instances where you want this behavior (like monitoring CW with one VFO, SSB with the other), but for many of my purposes, it's a real pain. Any way to change this behavior? Sorry if this is RTFM. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] VFO A/B mode/filter settings
Press the button twice in quick succession. The first press copies only the freq the second press with in I think 3 seconds copies all information across. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:36 AM To: [Elecraft] Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] VFO A/B mode/filter settings Seems like there must be an easy way to do this, but I don't seem to know it. Help, please: I want to be able to copy the mode and filter settings from one VFO to the other. For example, I have VFO A set up for narrow-band SSB reception. But when I copy VFO AB, only the frequency is copied. The previous mode and filter settings for VFO B remain. I can see instances where you want this behavior (like monitoring CW with one VFO, SSB with the other), but for many of my purposes, it's a real pain. Any way to change this behavior? Sorry if this is RTFM. Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VFO A/B mode/filter settings
I was surprised the first time this 'bit' me. I had forgot about the note to push twice. Works for me. Great stuff, thanks. David Wilburn K4DGW Don Wilhelm wrote: Bill, Tap AB twice. This was introduced several versions of the firmware back. The folks who are operating cross mode do not want the mode transferred, only the frequency, but other situations require that the full contents are copied. So tap once to transfer only the frequency and tap twice to transfer everything. 73, Don W3FPR Bill W5WVO wrote: Seems like there must be an easy way to do this, but I don't seem to know it. Help, please: I want to be able to copy the mode and filter settings from one VFO to the other. For example, I have VFO A set up for narrow-band SSB reception. But when I copy VFO AB, only the frequency is copied. The previous mode and filter settings for VFO B remain. I can see instances where you want this behavior (like monitoring CW with one VFO, SSB with the other), but for many of my purposes, it's a real pain. Any way to change this behavior? Sorry if this is RTFM. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A+B
Whilst playing with, sorry exploring, my K3 this morning I have set something that causes VFO B to track VFO A. Simply put as I tune VFO A both A B frequencies change together. This only occurs on 40m, the band I was listening to at the time. All other bands are normal. Unfortunately I cannot remember what I did I have been searching the manual, fruitlessly since lunch time. HOLD SUB and UNLINK will appear in the display. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A+B
You probably have linked the VFOs on 40 meters. This was described in the firmware release notes for MCU 1.73: VFO LINKING: Holding the SUB switch links/unlinks the two VFOs. When linked, VFO A is the master; turning it moves both VFOs the same amount. VFO B can be set to the same frequency by tapping AB, or it can be offset a fixed amount from VFO A. Setting them to the same frequency will permit diversity receive with the subreceiver. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Howson Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:59 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A+B Whilst playing with, sorry exploring, my K3 this morning I have set something that causes VFO B to track VFO A. Simply put as I tune VFO A both A B frequencies change together. This only occurs on 40m, the band I was listening to at the time. All other bands are normal. Unfortunately I cannot remember what I did I have been searching the manual, fruitlessly since lunch time. 73 Peter GM8GAX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com