RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
Don't forget the P-38 "Lightening". Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: "EricJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And Kelly Johnson's other masterpiece, the SR-71 Blackbird. > > A wire resonant vertical antenna doesn't exactly fit the image of the > cutting edge technology associated with the Skunk Works. Not to mention that > Lockheed Martin owns both the name and the skunk logo that EPA Skunk Works > has appropriated. > > Eric > KE6US > www.ke6us.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:26 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out! > > Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to the > inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered on "Skunk > Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as the U2 and > F-117A. > > Fred K6DGW > > Edward R. Breneiser wrote: > > Hello all! > > > > I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works > > area on my website. > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
In a message dated 4/7/2006 11:57:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.wa3wsj.com/SkunkWorks.html Okay I found it. Funny thing, I didn't mind getting spammed that time. /Bill K3UJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
That would most likely have been the A-12 at Battleship park in Mobile, AL. It would be right off I-10. http://www.ussalabama.com/ For anyone interested in Blackbirds, try this site: http://www.visi.com/~jweeks/sr71/index.html On topic, I haven't made or put up any antennas yet. :) I imagine when I do I'll have some stinkers as well. I'm thinking about a dipole running the ridge of my house. I could hit a half-wave for 40 meters. Then there are those really tall fir trees in the front yard... Walt, KE7GWZ On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 17:40 -0400, Dan Barker wrote: > Reminds me of a customer of mine, who DOES understand the social position of > being a customer. > > I was driving along I-10 (I think, somewhere in the Florida Panhandle) and > saw a Blackbird parked alongside of the expressway. I immediately exited and > found the SR-71 on display at some museum. > > While looking at this magnificient expression of aviation technology, my > beeper went off. Tom knew I was on vacation, and knew not to interrupt me, > but he beeped anyway - because it was important. > > I called him on my cellphone and told him "I'm standing under a Blackbird!", > then asked what he needed. I don't remember what he needed, but it wasn't > important enough for him even to mention on that call. He said Cool!, asked > me to take some pictures of the plane and to call back later. He was not > going to interrupt looking at the SR-71 (or RS-71, if LBJ could read better) > for some silly computer issue. > > I've always liked a little balance in a customer. > > Dan / WG4S > > Kevin Rock wrote: > > You skipped my favorite aircraft: the Blackbird. > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
Reminds me of a customer of mine, who DOES understand the social position of being a customer. I was driving along I-10 (I think, somewhere in the Florida Panhandle) and saw a Blackbird parked alongside of the expressway. I immediately exited and found the SR-71 on display at some museum. While looking at this magnificient expression of aviation technology, my beeper went off. Tom knew I was on vacation, and knew not to interrupt me, but he beeped anyway - because it was important. I called him on my cellphone and told him "I'm standing under a Blackbird!", then asked what he needed. I don't remember what he needed, but it wasn't important enough for him even to mention on that call. He said Cool!, asked me to take some pictures of the plane and to call back later. He was not going to interrupt looking at the SR-71 (or RS-71, if LBJ could read better) for some silly computer issue. I've always liked a little balance in a customer. Dan / WG4S Kevin Rock wrote: > You skipped my favorite aircraft: the Blackbird. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
Actually, quite a bit of the original Skunk Works stayed at Burbank at least into the late 70's and early 80's. A good friend of mine was an engineer there and often had to make late night runs into work to supervise lifting some exotic flight surface out of a jig. That's the extent of my knowledge of his work. Any further questions were deflected with a statement about band conditions or some such. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:02 AM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out! A-yep. Skunk Works(r) is a registered trademark of Lockheed-Martin Corporation. It began during WWII in Burbank, California but later moved to more "secure" quarters. Anyone heard of "Groom Lake" or "Area 51"? That's them! (Or part of them). Still, many companies and organizations have called the location where their 'secret' new product development is going on the "company skunk works". As in all of those still trying to figure out exactly where the Elecraft "skunk works" are located...Hi! Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to the inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered on "Skunk Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as the U2 and F-117A. Fred K6DGW Edward R. Breneiser wrote: > Hello all! > > I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works > area on my website. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
And Kelly Johnson's other masterpiece, the SR-71 Blackbird. A wire resonant vertical antenna doesn't exactly fit the image of the cutting edge technology associated with the Skunk Works. Not to mention that Lockheed Martin owns both the name and the skunk logo that EPA Skunk Works has appropriated. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:26 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out! Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to the inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered on "Skunk Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as the U2 and F-117A. Fred K6DGW Edward R. Breneiser wrote: > Hello all! > > I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works > area on my website. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
Kevin Rock wrote: > You skipped my favorite aircraft: the Blackbird. I skipped a few other less well publicized ones too, for obvious reasons. The original Lockheed Skunk Works occupied Bldg 357 (a hangar) at the Burbank CA Airport, and the engineering offices were in Bldg 90, which you could see from I-5. > There is supposed to be one located in McMinnville, Oregon. There is. It is in the Evergreen Aviation Museum across from the airport not far out of town. It is parked under the wing of the Spruce Goose, and looks like a model next to that monster, although by itself, it is pretty big. Evergreen, with a base at the airport across the road has an "interesting" history also. It's a great indoor aviation museum if you like airplanes. I have a cool T-shirt from that visit. The Spruce Goose is really made mostly out out of birch, but I guess "Birch Goose" just didn't have the right ring to it. It was designed to carry 600 or so troops across the Atlantic at the amazing speed of 110 kts ... and I thought the grind across the S. China Sea in C-130's at 250 kts was awful. Fred K6DGW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
You skipped my favorite aircraft: the Blackbird. Every time I see a photo I just admire the lines of that plane. There is supposed to be one located in McMinnville, Oregon. I was in a waiting room waiting for Pat when I noticed the guy sitting next to me going through the maintenance manuals for the plane. He is one of the engineers volunteering to refit the Blackbird for display. I need to go down there one day. The Spruce Goose is there as well. Kevin. KD5ONS -Original Message- >From: Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 7, 2006 1:25 PM >To: Elecraft Reflector >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out! > >Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to >the inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered >on "Skunk Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as >the U2 and F-117A. > >Fred K6DGW > >Edward R. Breneiser wrote: >> Hello all! >> >> I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works >> area on my website. >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
A-yep. Skunk Works(r) is a registered trademark of Lockheed-Martin Corporation. It began during WWII in Burbank, California but later moved to more "secure" quarters. Anyone heard of "Groom Lake" or "Area 51"? That's them! (Or part of them). Still, many companies and organizations have called the location where their 'secret' new product development is going on the "company skunk works". As in all of those still trying to figure out exactly where the Elecraft "skunk works" are located...Hi! Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to the inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered on "Skunk Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as the U2 and F-117A. Fred K6DGW Edward R. Breneiser wrote: > Hello all! > > I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works > area on my website. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
Hmmm ... be careful. Lockheed (now Lockheed Martin and not related to the inventor of the Retro-Encabulator) may have a trademark registered on "Skunk Works." It became fairly famous for secret airplanes such as the U2 and F-117A. Fred K6DGW Edward R. Breneiser wrote: Hello all! I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works area on my website. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
I too have no photos. My worst was a 10/15/20 parallel dipole tacked to the wall of my apartment in CA. It gave a very low swr on 40 meters by obviously coupling into the building wiring system. When I sent CQ, the neighbor's TV would switch on and off. Like Stephanie, I have my own house now so the antennas can stay safely outside. - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 (that's real close to Stephanie's at sn 5311) - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie Maks I've certainly made my share of terrible antennas, but I wasn't quick enough to take pictures of them. My best worst antenna was a 6M dipole tacked to my bedroom wall, facing the TV. With 50 watts of FM it hit the local repeater just great, and only took a month to destroy my TV's receiver with overload. My runner-up best worst antenna was my indoor mini trapped 10M vertical which 'strangely' would never tune up, until that time I was testing it and holding onto the wrong thing. Suddenly 1.5:1 match at 50 watts of 10M and OUCH WHY IS MY HAND SO HOT?! 73 de Stephanie va3uxb K2#5311 - K1#2132 p.s. fortunately I've got my own home now, so my antennas can be outside instead of inside! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's EPA Skunk Works Site - Check it out!
My first thought on reading 'EPA Skunk Works' was some sort of super secret, super high-tech stuff made by the environmental protection agency...hi hi. I've certainly made my share of terrible antennas, but I wasn't quick enough to take pictures of them. My best worst antenna was a 6M dipole tacked to my bedroom wall, facing the TV. With 50 watts of FM it hit the local repeater just great, and only took a month to destroy my TV's receiver with overload. My runner-up best worst antenna was my indoor mini trapped 10M vertical which 'strangely' would never tune up, until that time I was testing it and holding onto the wrong thing. Suddenly 1.5:1 match at 50 watts of 10M and OUCH WHY IS MY HAND SO HOT?! 73 de Stephanie va3uxb K2#5311 - K1#2132 p.s. fortunately I've got my own home now, so my antennas can be outside instead of inside! On 7-Apr-06, at 11.55 .44, Edward R. Breneiser wrote: Hello all! I liked the EPA Skunk Works name so much that I created a Skunk Works area on my website. This page is dedicated to all those hams, including myself, who have constructed just bad antennas over the years. I call it my antenna graveyard site. This is where all those "great antennas" are laid to rest. Keep the names coming for the new vertical! I'll post a list of proposed names soon. http://www.wa3wsj.com/SkunkWorks.html 72, Ed, WA3WSJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
