Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
As others have indicated, this is most likely a dishonest attempt to get you to give information. One way to check is as follows. If the questionable e-mail has a link for you to click on DO NOT CLICK ON IT, but rather place your cursor over the link and look at the bottom left of your browse (if you are using Microsoft Explorer, that is). This shows you the destination that the link will send you to, if you click. It probably has nothing to do with e-bay but belongs to the bad guys. As was stated in earlier responses, this is becoming a problem and the bogus e-mail often looks very convincing. I've recently received these phishing attempts from someone claiming to be PayPal (but wasn't) saying very matter of factly, that PayPal made a payment from my account (which I never authorized, of course). It even had the amount and to whom it was being sent (both fictitious). Then it said, if I had any question to simply click on the link, of course I was tempted to get to the bottom of that, but when I saw where the link was sending me I realized it was a phish. Be Careful, this really stinks. Tom WB2QDG K2 1103 -- Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say. - Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 5:10 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Again, sorry for the bandwidth. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The links are easy to forge. Clicking on the blue link that says "www.paypal.com" may well send you to "www.gotcha-sucker.com" or some such place. Of course, the site will say it's what you think it should be and it'll look exactly like the real thing, including all the graphics, page layout, etc., but it isn't the "real thing". Eudora warns you that the link ain't that it says it isand conveniently shows you the "real" url. That's one of the reasons ebay and payapl ask for the message to be forarded in its original form...so they can see the bogus url. 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
Hi Ya; I don't normally post on here but I thought I would add a bit to the paypal thing; this is OT but hope Eric won't mind. Some friends recently inherited a home from a relative who passed away. The home was sold and the furniture was made available to the siblings. The remaining, unwanted furniture was put on ebay, the proceeds to be split among them. My friend received a call from Santa Clare County demanding tax from the ebay sales. The State of California is now involved. When the tax people were asked about this small sale of tables and chairs etc. My friend was told that paypal had reported the sales to the county as being over $500/mo. for several months and they wanted their cut. pete, kn6bi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexandra Carter Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:54 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP OK people. Listen up and listen up good. DON'T have anything to do with PayPal until you have read the sites www.paypalwarning.com and www.paypalsucks.com - then look into the many class-action and individual lawsuits against PayPal and then and only then will you be equipped to decide if you want them to own a piece of your life forever. THEN, if you get SPAM from PayPal, forward it with full headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You see, PayPal is owned by Ebay therefore all PayPal scams and spoofs are actually done by Ebay. Anything newsworthy, go to your news media right away - if it bleeds it leads and PayPal/Ebay make plenty of people do just that, all accounts cleaned out and the victem left living under a bridge and begging for a living. de Alex NS6Y. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ NOD32 1.1570 (20060531) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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In case I missed somebody, thank you all for your help. A great family of 'Elecrafters'. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
This thread started off out-of-bounds and has gotten worse. Please stop ... no more postings. Back to Elecraft topics. Thanks, Ed - W0YK > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Alexandra Carter > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:54 PM > To: Ron D'Eau Claire > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP > > OK people. Listen up and listen up good. > > DON'T have anything to do with PayPal until you have read the > sites www.paypalwarning.com and www.paypalsucks.com - then > look into the many class-action and individual lawsuits > against PayPal and then and only then will you be equipped to > decide if you want them to own a piece of your life forever. > > THEN, if you get SPAM from PayPal, forward it with full > headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You see, PayPal is owned by Ebay > therefore all PayPal scams and spoofs are actually done by Ebay. > > Anything newsworthy, go to your news media right away - if it > bleeds it leads and PayPal/Ebay make plenty of people do just > that, all accounts cleaned out and the victem left living > under a bridge and begging for a living. > > de Alex NS6Y. > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
OK people. Listen up and listen up good. DON'T have anything to do with PayPal until you have read the sites www.paypalwarning.com and www.paypalsucks.com - then look into the many class-action and individual lawsuits against PayPal and then and only then will you be equipped to decide if you want them to own a piece of your life forever. THEN, if you get SPAM from PayPal, forward it with full headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You see, PayPal is owned by Ebay therefore all PayPal scams and spoofs are actually done by Ebay. Anything newsworthy, go to your news media right away - if it bleeds it leads and PayPal/Ebay make plenty of people do just that, all accounts cleaned out and the victem left living under a bridge and begging for a living. de Alex NS6Y. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Ian: Sincere thanks for this invaluable link. 73, Steve AA4AK At 02:33 PM 5/31/2006, Ian Stirling wrote: There's an easy way to check if it's genuine email. When contacting by email regarding account details, Ebay and Paypal always address the client by full name, not something like 'Dear Paypal Client". Here's a great page within a site - just about every hard-to-find US telephone number and ways to shortcircuit the menu systems - my cyber-friend Rosie gave me the link. http://gethuman.com/us/ Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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The most telling clue is that the message provides a link to click on. A real message from Paypal or Ebay or any financial institution will NOT provide a link to their web site. The message will tell you to go to your account and log on. The links are easy to forge. Clicking on the blue link that says "www.paypal.com" may well send you to "www.gotcha-sucker.com" or some such place. Of course, the site will say it's what you think it should be and it'll look exactly like the real thing, including all the graphics, page layout, etc., but it isn't the "real thing". Ron AC7AC -Original Message- There's an easy way to check if it's genuine email. When contacting by email regarding account details, Ebay and Paypal always address the client by full name, not something like 'Dear Paypal Client". Here's a great page within a site - just about every hard-to-find US telephone number and ways to shortcircuit the menu systems - my cyber-friend Rosie gave me the link. http://gethuman.com/us/ Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
There's an easy way to check if it's genuine email. When contacting by email regarding account details, Ebay and Paypal always address the client by full name, not something like 'Dear Paypal Client". Here's a great page within a site - just about every hard-to-find US telephone number and ways to shortcircuit the menu systems - my cyber-friend Rosie gave me the link. http://gethuman.com/us/ Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- On Wednesday 31 May 2006 05:10, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay > customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used > ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do > either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my > messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. > > Again, sorry for the bandwidth. > > 73, > Geoff > GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
send the entire message as is to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a spam -- __ ___/ Chuck \_ | | | www.aa8vs.org/aa8vs | The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward -- Original message -- From: "Dave Lowenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Geoff, > > Everyone has pretty much covered the topic on the phony messages. I've > gotten them too. However, your comment about contacting a real live person > at eBay is a good one. They are there but apparently days behind answering > inquiries. Since time is a major issue when dealing on eBay, you need > timely help when there is a problem. The problem is you can't get it when > you need it. That is poor customer service in my opinion and I no longer > use eBay for that reason. If Elecraft or the company I work for treated > customers like eBay does, we'd be out of business! > > 73, > Dave > N7AF > > - Original Message - > From: "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Elecraft Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:10 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP > > > > Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay > > customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used > > ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do > > either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my > > messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. > > > > Again, sorry for the bandwidth. > > > > 73, > > Geoff > > GM4ESD > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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DITTO on your entire post. Been on eBay likewise since early 1998 and will always be a member. Was even thrown off once and wrote the founder of eBay himself and was promptly reinstated. Like SSB years ago all the bitching and moaning how âthatâ mode was just causing interference to the AM group which was most everyone back then. People hate change, no doubt. I sit back and laugh at the people screaming that eBay was a terrible idea when that terrible idea made a few people billionaires and put thousands to work, at the same time made many quit their day jobs doing eBay full time. To the eBay haters I say: Welcome to the brave new world where you can take it or leave it, but here it is to stay whether you like it or not. Note: That guy offering to build the K2 on eBay is a fine gentleman, he built my K2/100 loaded for $120 which included shipping. He used to be on the Elecraft builders list but college late in life and other things forced him to spool down a bit. k3ey K2/100 S/N 5417 loaded Craig Rairdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, your comment about contacting a real live person > at eBay is a good one. > That is poor customer service in my opinion and I no longer > use eBay for that reason. If Elecraft or the company I work for treated > customers like eBay does, we'd be out of business! This is close to on-topic since a lot of Elecraft equipment gets bought/sold on eBay. I've been using eBay since 1998. I've had some major disputes with sellers over items that were poorly packaged and damaged in transit. I've had major disagreements with buyers who wouldn't pay, or would not accept packages delivered to them. I've gone through the full-blown dispute resolution process with one seller to get my money back. In none of these cases was there ever a lack of information on the eBay (or PayPal) sites. I've never felt the need to talk to a real person. In this specific case (phishing scam), for example, there are FAQ articles that deal with this issue -- hence the dozen or so responders here who knew about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. If people would make use of the help that's there, they wouldn't complain about what's not (phone support). I think eBay is one of the miracles of the Internet revolution. I went to Dayton and saw a table with four Collins 75A-x receivers on it. eBay has four listed today, and every day all year. I didn't see any Elecraft gear in the flea market (though I heard there was a K2 there somewhere). Today on eBay there is a K1, a K2, a T1, and an offer for someone to build your K2 for you for $180. It's like Hamvention on your computer, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, only without the guys on those electric scooters running you over. (Or, if you're one of the electric scooter guys, without all the people between you and a good deal.) I guess fewer bidders just means more stuff for me, but I wouldn't quit eBay over the lack of phone-based support. Craig NZ0R K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 KX1 #1499 <- STILL in the box ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Geoff, Sounds like spammers. I get them all the time from "ebay" and "Paypal". If you highlight the links they want you to go to to give financial info it’s fraudulent. Steve, W2MY -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/352 - Release Date: 5/30/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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> However, your comment about contacting a real live person > at eBay is a good one. > That is poor customer service in my opinion and I no longer > use eBay for that reason. If Elecraft or the company I work for treated > customers like eBay does, we'd be out of business! This is close to on-topic since a lot of Elecraft equipment gets bought/sold on eBay. I've been using eBay since 1998. I've had some major disputes with sellers over items that were poorly packaged and damaged in transit. I've had major disagreements with buyers who wouldn't pay, or would not accept packages delivered to them. I've gone through the full-blown dispute resolution process with one seller to get my money back. In none of these cases was there ever a lack of information on the eBay (or PayPal) sites. I've never felt the need to talk to a real person. In this specific case (phishing scam), for example, there are FAQ articles that deal with this issue -- hence the dozen or so responders here who knew about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. If people would make use of the help that's there, they wouldn't complain about what's not (phone support). I think eBay is one of the miracles of the Internet revolution. I went to Dayton and saw a table with four Collins 75A-x receivers on it. eBay has four listed today, and every day all year. I didn't see any Elecraft gear in the flea market (though I heard there was a K2 there somewhere). Today on eBay there is a K1, a K2, a T1, and an offer for someone to build your K2 for you for $180. It's like Hamvention on your computer, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, only without the guys on those electric scooters running you over. (Or, if you're one of the electric scooter guys, without all the people between you and a good deal.) I guess fewer bidders just means more stuff for me, but I wouldn't quit eBay over the lack of phone-based support. Craig NZ0R K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 KX1 #1499 <- STILL in the box ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Geoff, Everyone has pretty much covered the topic on the phony messages. I've gotten them too. However, your comment about contacting a real live person at eBay is a good one. They are there but apparently days behind answering inquiries. Since time is a major issue when dealing on eBay, you need timely help when there is a problem. The problem is you can't get it when you need it. That is poor customer service in my opinion and I no longer use eBay for that reason. If Elecraft or the company I work for treated customers like eBay does, we'd be out of business! 73, Dave N7AF - Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:10 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Again, sorry for the bandwidth. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Geoff: You're being phished. Someone is attempting to trick you into sending them financial information (such as your credit card data) by sending fraudulent messages purporting to originate from eBay. Do not under any circumstances use any of the Internet links in any such message. Instead, use your e-mail program to forward a copy of the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73, Steve Kercel AA4AK At 05:10 AM 5/31/2006, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Again, sorry for the bandwidth. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I agree with Rich. Be vigilant about this. I always forward these to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and usually to my ISP as well. Sometimes you may notice an IP address in the email when "hovering" the mouse over the supposed link and I check who the IP is assigned to. Many times it comes from some Asian areas which may be harder to get shut down. But I've noticed that the ones that come from within the US are generally shut down within a matter of hours from the time that I forward to my ISP & [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or similar for PayPal). Good luck! Mark, NK8Q >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed May 31 08:13:34 CDT 2006 >To: Charles Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Elecraft Discussion List >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP >I disagree about "do not worry about them", if you respond it can lead >to idenity theft and no end of problems. The senders are thieves and >doing nothing just helps them succed. Best is to follow previously >posted advice and forward them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]), >don't >change anything, just forward as is. That way you are helping >ebay/paypal track down the offenders and maybe reduce and/or eventually >eliminate the miscreants. Just my 2cents opinion. > >Rich k2cpe >K2 #1102 > > >> >> --- >> I agree about eBay and others being Computer Black Holes. If they >> really want your response, they will send your a letter via the postal >> service. Mostly, do not worry about them. >> Best, >> >> >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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On Wed, 31 May 2006, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay > customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used > ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either > my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to > them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Forward those messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They actively pursue their sources and the more input they get the more they have to work with. While we're on the subject, anything that purports to come from paypal should be forwarded to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I disagree about "do not worry about them", if you respond it can lead to idenity theft and no end of problems. The senders are thieves and doing nothing just helps them succed. Best is to follow previously posted advice and forward them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]), don't change anything, just forward as is. That way you are helping ebay/paypal track down the offenders and maybe reduce and/or eventually eliminate the miscreants. Just my 2cents opinion. Rich k2cpe K2 #1102 --- I agree about eBay and others being Computer Black Holes. If they really want your response, they will send your a letter via the postal service. Mostly, do not worry about them. Best, ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
When ever you question something like this from Pay pal or eBay, do not open any links or addresses. Instead forward the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will examine it and reply to you. After sending, just delete. I send 5/6 a week to spoof. Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com www.W9DVM.com 727-944-3226 800-395-7795 pin 02 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT # 30210 W9DVM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 5:11 AM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Again, sorry for the bandwidth. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
Geoff, My advice is to not respond to them. I get about one messages a weel, saying my paypall account is on hold, or answer a question from a buyer on ebay. They are what is called Phishing, and they are trying to get your personal information or account numbers. Hold the mouse over the response address, and it may say that the real address is something else. I agree about eBay and others being Computer Black Holes. If they really want your response, they will send your a letter via the postal service. Mostly, do not worry about them. They make enough money as it is. Best, Your friend, Chas, W1CG At 05:10 AM 5/31/2006, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Again, sorry for the bandwidth. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
On 31 May 2006, at 10:37, Thom R LaCosta wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2006, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Most likely the messages aren't from ebay, but from someone attempting to get you to fill in some form with your account information(of course, you have no account). Best course of action is to simply delete the messagesor you can forward them, making sure that the message headers show, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's my understanding that ebay and paypal pursue folks who do this type of thing. I go along with that. I receive quite a few of these spoofs -- and the guys at eBay and PayPal are always interested in receiving forwarded copies to try and get whoever is darkening their name! I always forward them (with the headers) -- Regards Andy, G8TQH http://www.rickham.net/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Sorry about this OT. I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. Most likely the messages aren't from ebay, but from someone attempting to get you to fill in some form with your account information(of course, you have no account). Best course of action is to simply delete the messagesor you can forward them, making sure that the message headers show, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's my understanding that ebay and paypal pursue folks who do this type of thing. 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - eBay - HELP
In a message dated 5/31/06 5:13:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I keep getting nasty messages from ebay and ebay > customers saying that I have not paid for this or that. I have NEVER used > ebay nor have an account with them, and since none of my neighbours do > either my question is 'How does one contact a HUMAN at ebay?' All my > messages to them seem to go into some Computer Black Hole. > Those messages are not from eBay. They're phishing, trying to get you to respond so they can get your email addresss. 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
