Re: [Elecraft] running an external amp?

2005-11-03 Thread Don Brown
Hi

If you build the KPA100 into an EC2 box externally and your K2 has a KAT2 
the firmware will place the KAT2 into bypass mode and select Ant 1. This is 
the same as using a amp made by some other supplier except the K2 will not 
be able to detect the amp. The KAT2 bypass mode and Ant 1 can be selected 
manually in this case. Another option would be to disconnect the RF cable to 
the KAT2 and just use the BNC output on the back of the K2.

Don Brown
KD5NDB


- Original Message - 
From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] running an external amp?


 K6MR wrote:
  Not sure if you mean the KAT-2 or the KAT-100, but I drive both my amps
  with the KAT-100s in line from both radios.  I don't know how the tuner
  would know the difference between an antenna or an amplifier input
  network.  I just let the tuner cycle (it's real quick) using the tune
  button the first time I activate the amp.  Then use the keyer to tune
  with dits.

 The KAT2 and KAT100 are pretty similar.  The difference between an
 antenna and an amplifier input network is that the impedance seen when
 driving an amplifier changes as the amplifier is driven harder!  So you
 can get a sort of unstable condition in which the tuner tries to match a
 varying impedance.  This is probably not harmful since you are tuning at
 reduced power, but it's not clear that the tuner will find an
 appropriate match.  That's why I recommend tuning the K2 into a 50-ohm
 dummy load first, and then using it to drive the amp.

 -- 
 73,
 Vic, K2VCO
 Fresno CA
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco 
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Re: [Elecraft] running an external amp?

2005-11-02 Thread Vic K2VCO

Bill Allen wrote:

If I decide to drive an external amp with my K2, do I need to disable the
ATU?


It's not a good idea to try to operate the tuner when driving an amp, 
although sometimes it's useful if you are careful.  Probably the best 
thing to do is to tune the K2 into a dummy load and activate the tuner. 
  This will set the tuner up for a 50-ohm load.   Then connect the amp 
and do not activate the tuner.  Most amps should provide an SWR of 1.5:1 
or less.


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Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] running an external amp?

2005-11-02 Thread K6MR
Not sure if you mean the KAT-2 or the KAT-100, but I drive both my amps 
with the KAT-100s in line from both radios.  I don't know how the tuner 
would know the difference between an antenna or an amplifier input 
network.  I just let the tuner cycle (it's real quick) using the tune 
button the first time I activate the amp.  Then use the keyer to tune 
with dits.


Ken  K6MR

Vic K2VCO wrote:


Bill Allen wrote:

If I decide to drive an external amp with my K2, do I need to disable 
the

ATU?



It's not a good idea to try to operate the tuner when driving an amp, 
although sometimes it's useful if you are careful.  Probably the best 
thing to do is to tune the K2 into a dummy load and activate the 
tuner.   This will set the tuner up for a 50-ohm load.   Then connect 
the amp and do not activate the tuner.  Most amps should provide an 
SWR of 1.5:1 or less.




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Re: [Elecraft] running an external amp?

2005-11-02 Thread Vic K2VCO

K6MR wrote:
Not sure if you mean the KAT-2 or the KAT-100, but I drive both my amps 
with the KAT-100s in line from both radios.  I don't know how the tuner 
would know the difference between an antenna or an amplifier input 
network.  I just let the tuner cycle (it's real quick) using the tune 
button the first time I activate the amp.  Then use the keyer to tune 
with dits.


The KAT2 and KAT100 are pretty similar.  The difference between an 
antenna and an amplifier input network is that the impedance seen when 
driving an amplifier changes as the amplifier is driven harder!  So you 
can get a sort of unstable condition in which the tuner tries to match a 
varying impedance.  This is probably not harmful since you are tuning at 
reduced power, but it's not clear that the tuner will find an 
appropriate match.  That's why I recommend tuning the K2 into a 50-ohm 
dummy load first, and then using it to drive the amp.


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73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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RE: [Elecraft] running an external amp?

2005-11-02 Thread Bill Allen
Thanks for the advice guys.  I am shutting down the K2 for the night and
headed to bed!  :-)

73,
Bill - WA5PB
K2 #1068


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K6MR wrote:
 Not sure if you mean the KAT-2 or the KAT-100, but I drive both my amps 
 with the KAT-100s in line from both radios.  I don't know how the tuner 
 would know the difference between an antenna or an amplifier input 
 network.  I just let the tuner cycle (it's real quick) using the tune 
 button the first time I activate the amp.  Then use the keyer to tune 
 with dits.

The KAT2 and KAT100 are pretty similar.  The difference between an 
antenna and an amplifier input network is that the impedance seen when 
driving an amplifier changes as the amplifier is driven harder!  So you 
can get a sort of unstable condition in which the tuner tries to match a 
varying impedance.  This is probably not harmful since you are tuning at 
reduced power, but it's not clear that the tuner will find an 
appropriate match.  That's why I recommend tuning the K2 into a 50-ohm 
dummy load first, and then using it to drive the amp.

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73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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