Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
I just returned from the Japan Ham Fair and I see the natives are restless. :-) I'll be posting a K3 status update later today. (I'm reviewing all of our internal and vendor status right now.) Please - No more arguments on the list debating each other on what is, or is not, appropriate to post. This type of discussion is outside of our list guidelines and only serves to increase the general noise level for everyone. Please keep discussions civil and drop any personal or general criticisms of each other. Feel free to send complaints to me as moderator. We certainly aren't divine :-) But we -are- working overtime to get you the highest quality radio in the shortest time possible. We're taking a lot more criticism from our families for 7 day weeks and shortened / canceled vacations than we receive here. ;-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ --- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
Enough with the flame war already! 73, - Rob W7GH On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:24:28 -0700, W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thom LaCosta wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. You have such a way with words Johnit;s always amuzing to watch you turn discussions into personal name-calling. Personal name calling? I fail to see any personal reference in my comment, other than that that may be taken by someone. In other words, "If the shoe fits" I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time for a finished product that has more than I expected at the outsetbut then again, by doing that I give up my right to whine and stir bovine output. Oh, that's OK, Thom, you always find some way to expel the bovine output. (Now THAT was a personal comment!) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
Thom LaCosta wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: > >> money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept >> up to >> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the >> Elecraft >> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. > > You have such a way with words Johnit;s always amuzing to watch you > turn discussions into personal name-calling. Personal name calling? I fail to see any personal reference in my comment, other than that that may be taken by someone. In other words, "If the shoe fits" > > I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time > for a finished product that has more than I expected at the > outsetbut then again, by doing that I give up my right to whine and > stir bovine output. Oh, that's OK, Thom, you always find some way to expel the bovine output. (Now THAT was a personal comment!) > -- John - W2AGN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. You have such a way with words Johnit;s always amuzing to watch you turn discussions into personal name-calling. I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time for a finished product that has more than I expected at the outsetbut then again, by doing that I give up my right to whine and stir bovine output. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
(snip)..I would expect to be kept up to date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. John - W2AGN Hear Hear! All I know is that the Elecraft MoJo would take a serious hit from any last minute announcement this late in the game. Late surprises in scheduling always indicate lack of awareness and control and tend to destroy confidence among customers. There is never any excuse for it ... and that is why you always see responsible companies announce delays well ahead of an impending miss in schedule. Yes, it sometimes happens even to the best companies, but they are the ones to acknowledge and explain the problem early. That is why, with only 3 days to go before at least one K3 ships I am pretty confident that there will be no further significant delays announced for the K3. Don K7FJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
I am one of those people, and I'm not complaining. Furthermore, I paid my 50% at a worse exchange rate than is now the case, never mind the loss of interest. Nobody forced me to do so. I did it in order to get my K3 ahead of those who didn't stump up. No promises of a delivery date were made, or expected. I think through this reflector we are well informed about what is going on, and like others have said, I'd rather they get it right first time than have to do a lot of awkward mods because of things that weren't fixed because they shipped too quickly. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 8/29/07, W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as > advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little > communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
I have to agree with John -- I've plunked down my advance payment to Elecraft, and I don't think it's too much to ask to expect a brief progress report and forecast for shipping schedules. I'd rather have some commuications that need to be adjusted as time goes forward, rather than sit and wait in total silence. Advertising hype and teasing is fine, but we're all dedicated Elecraft folks here who have invested serious bucks, so it's not necessary to play this kind of game with us. Please, Elecraft, let's hear what's going on at Aptos and what we can expect for the furture Van W1WCG K2 2634, 5510, KX1 306, K3 ? ? - Original Message - From: "W2AGN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Thom LaCosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ?? Thom LaCosta wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers. And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about the delay and the lack of announcements Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery against shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set. Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the slippage in delivery dates. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month My complaint was not the delay but the lack of communication. Hey, Elecraft is a COMPANY, not the second coming! At least 200 people laid out a 50% payment IN ADVANCE. That would be from $1000 for a barebones modular kit to around $2000 for a loaded, built K3. So figuring an average of $1500, that $300,000 of OUR money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. -- John - W2AGN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
Thom LaCosta wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: > >> >> I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to >> Elecraft as >> advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little >> communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers. > > And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about > the delay and the lack of announcements > > Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery > against > shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set. > > Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the > slippage in delivery dates. > > 73 k3hrn > Thom,EIEIO > Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer > > www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month > > My complaint was not the delay but the lack of communication. Hey, Elecraft is a COMPANY, not the second coming! At least 200 people laid out a 50% payment IN ADVANCE. That would be from $1000 for a barebones modular kit to around $2000 for a loaded, built K3. So figuring an average of $1500, that $300,000 of OUR money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer. -- John - W2AGN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
Just one of many changes is that there are now 10 programable keys. Two have their on label on the front panel (hold functions of the RIT and XIT buttons) and then you can also program the M1-4 buttons as a PFx in both TAP and HOLD, that gives you 8 more PFx functions for a total of 10. When you want to use any of the M1-4 buttons for messages, you record your message in the normal way and it reverts back to that function. Another great update is when operating FSK from the CW key when not connected to a computer. Now you can use your CW messages you programmed into the M1-4 buttons and the K3 will convert them to FSK. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Wed Aug 29 10:40 , Thom LaCosta sent: >On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, JT Croteau wrote: > >> On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset >>> about the delay and the lack of announcements >> >> Good things come to those who wait, patiently! > >I am reminded of the the phrase"It's just a hobby, just a hobby" > >It might be interesting reading to learn what features were improved and/or >added between the first announced and the actual ship date.but then there >would be people who harruph over the fact that they will neve use those >features. > >Buck Up Aptosthe K3 is a real of example of you can please some of the >people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. > >73 k3hrn >Thom,EIEIO >Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer > >www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon >www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, JT Croteau wrote: On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about the delay and the lack of announcements Good things come to those who wait, patiently! I am reminded of the the phrase"It's just a hobby, just a hobby" It might be interesting reading to learn what features were improved and/or added between the first announced and the actual ship date.but then there would be people who harruph over the fact that they will neve use those features. Buck Up Aptosthe K3 is a real of example of you can please some of the people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset > about the delay and the lack of announcements Good things come to those who wait, patiently! -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote: I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers. And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about the delay and the lack of announcements Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery against shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set. Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the slippage in delivery dates. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
David Pratt wrote: > In a recent message, robert hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... >> From the comments of those apparently " in the know" it appears that >> the K3 will not be shipping by the end of August. Whilst I appreciate >> the need to ensure that the first shipments are fully tested and >> conform to specification, and all the documentation is fully sorted, >> I wonder whether an official update on the website might be helpful to >> manage expectations ??. > > No, Bob, leave them to get on with it. Shipping was quoted as being > targeted *from* 31 August, not *by* 31 August. > > 73 I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers. -- John - W2AGN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??
In a recent message, robert hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... From the comments of those apparently " in the know" it appears that the K3 will not be shipping by the end of August. Whilst I appreciate the need to ensure that the first shipments are fully tested and conform to specification, and all the documentation is fully sorted, I wonder whether an official update on the website might be helpful to manage expectations ??. No, Bob, leave them to get on with it. Shipping was quoted as being targeted *from* 31 August, not *by* 31 August. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
