Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
Don, Respectfully, this isn't one button per band. It is two. Also tapping MV isn't foolproof because this button has two functions. Tap too long and you don't get MV. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/6/2015 20:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Chris, My K3 is set up with a button for each band (except for 60 meters). Check out the manual for Quick Memories (Under Memory Controls) Which use the first 10 memory slots. I tap MV and then tap one of the 10 keypad buttons to go to the last used frequency, mode, etc. on the band related to that memory. You can arrange the key number/band correlation in any manner you so desire. In addition, I set up the M1 thru M4 buttons to navigate to my favorite spot in each band. I use M1 for CW, M2 for SSB and M3 for data modes. I leave M4 blank, but I can quickly add it to remember a frequency, mode, etc. within the band if I think I may want to return to it after tuning away. For 60 meters, I have 5 memories set for channel hopping, and normally when I tap the MV button, that sequence of 5 channels comes up, and tapping MV again puts me on 60 meters with channel hopping active, so I can change from one channel to another with the VFO knob. See Channel Hopping in the manual. So I do have band buttons on my K3. Only rarely do I use the BAND up/dn buttons. On 8/6/2015 3:40 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote: snip A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to als...@nc.rr.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10383 - Release Date: 08/06/15 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
If you review past posts regarding this subject, you'll find that it has been discussed in great detail. Just search on K4. Many of us would like to see a full-size, no-holds-bared Elecraft radio with the function of the P3 built-in much like the Icom radios and the new Kenwood TS-990. When and if that will ever happen remains a topic of pure speculation. Hint: don't hold your breath. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 8/6/2015 12:50 PM, Greg wrote: In an earlier comment Wayne said that Elecraft takes comments made on this reflector into consideration for future improvement. I have two K3's and don't really have any negative comments but I do have some things that I would like to see improved -- or perhaps a better word would be different in the next Elecraft radio. While I recognize that the K3 was designed to be compact, light, and efficient for portability, I would like to see a version that is designed with style in mind. I would pay more for better finish. I used a FT1000D for many years before switching to the K3. Performance-wise the K3 is superior...and performance is the primary criteria for me in choosing a radio. However, with respect to finish, the Yaesu radio is superior. It looks and feels more expensive. Not everyone wants or needs a radio that is designed to be portable (and most active hams have more than one radio anyway). I'd like to see K3 performance come in a sleeker design...If you spin the tuning knob on the Yaesu, it is smooth and coasts along on ball bearings...the feel of the knobs and switches is better. A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and a larger cabinet would give more working space on the rear. (With the preamp, KPA500, KAT500, RTTY, external keyer, etc, the back on the K3 becomes a real kluge.) A radio designed to be more fixed station could also have the power supply built in and perhaps even have 150 - 200 watt capability. The P3 could be built in as well. The display on an IC7800 is really nice (in my opinion)...Elecraft could do something of similar quality. I'm not suggesting that the K3 or K3S be deleted from the product line -- just an alternate packaging solution that would compete more favorably with the Japanese look and feel. I'd gladly pay significantly more for a radio with K3 performance and IC7800 look and feel... and based on comments I have heard from others, I think that Elecraft would find a market for it. In fact I know some people who don't own a K3 because of the look. For some price will always be the primary consideration. For others, it is secondary. If Elecraft were to come out with a K3S Deluxe I would probably own both radios...keeping the K3 for whatever portable opportunity might present itself. I do miss the feel of the FT1000D. Also I would like to see the APF improved by allowing the peaking filter to be tuned as it was on the FT1000D. I almost always used the APF on the Yaesu but end up turning it off when I try it on the K3. I think the peak is too narrow. I realize I'm offering a lot of MY opinions here and not everyone will want or agree with my suggestions...but it is what it is -- my wish list. I'm hoping that this subject does not start a lot of speculation on what it would cost because that's not the point. If Elecraft were to consider a new design, they would have to determine the cost and its potential success in the market. Ohone more thing -- tongue firmly in cheek -- a larger cabinet would look good next to that 1500 watt amplifier that Elecraft teased us with at Dayton some years ago... 73, Greg-N4CC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
You can adjust the frequency of the APF peak with the SHIFT encoder. You can also tap the FINE button to get a slower tuning rate when you are using the APF. This makes it a bit easier. In some conditions the APF makes the difference between being able to copy a station and not. Its usefulness depends on the nature of the background noise. Don't give up on it. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 6 Aug 2015 21:50, Greg wrote: Also I would like to see the APF improved by allowing the peaking filter to be tuned as it was on the FT1000D. I almost always used the APF on the Yaesu but end up turning it off when I try it on the K3. I think the peak is too narrow. 73, Greg-N4CC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
Chris, My K3 is set up with a button for each band (except for 60 meters). Check out the manual for Quick Memories (Under Memory Controls) Which use the first 10 memory slots. I tap MV and then tap one of the 10 keypad buttons to go to the last used frequency, mode, etc. on the band related to that memory. You can arrange the key number/band correlation in any manner you so desire. In addition, I set up the M1 thru M4 buttons to navigate to my favorite spot in each band. I use M1 for CW, M2 for SSB and M3 for data modes. I leave M4 blank, but I can quickly add it to remember a frequency, mode, etc. within the band if I think I may want to return to it after tuning away. For 60 meters, I have 5 memories set for channel hopping, and normally when I tap the MV button, that sequence of 5 channels comes up, and tapping MV again puts me on 60 meters with channel hopping active, so I can change from one channel to another with the VFO knob. See Channel Hopping in the manual. So I do have band buttons on my K3. Only rarely do I use the BAND up/dn buttons. On 8/6/2015 3:40 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote: snip A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
Ah, thanks Jim and Don. While I have made some use of memories, I have not done anything with M1 through M4, and I didn't realize the first 10 are special. That's why I hang around this list, to learn more about this great rig!!! Time for some manual reading and button playing tonight! Thanks 73, Chris K1AY On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Chris, My K3 is set up with a button for each band (except for 60 meters). Check out the manual for Quick Memories (Under Memory Controls) Which use the first 10 memory slots. I tap MV and then tap one of the 10 keypad buttons to go to the last used frequency, mode, etc. on the band related to that memory. You can arrange the key number/band correlation in any manner you so desire. In addition, I set up the M1 thru M4 buttons to navigate to my favorite spot in each band. I use M1 for CW, M2 for SSB and M3 for data modes. I leave M4 blank, but I can quickly add it to remember a frequency, mode, etc. within the band if I think I may want to return to it after tuning away. For 60 meters, I have 5 memories set for channel hopping, and normally when I tap the MV button, that sequence of 5 channels comes up, and tapping MV again puts me on 60 meters with channel hopping active, so I can change from one channel to another with the VFO knob. See Channel Hopping in the manual. So I do have band buttons on my K3. Only rarely do I use the BAND up/dn buttons. On 8/6/2015 3:40 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote: snip A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
On Thu,8/6/2015 12:40 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote: The one feature I miss the most is having a button for each band. Study the parts of the manual that talk about memories. A lot of what you want can be achieved by programming memories. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
I have a beautiful thirty inch wide Sonora 5 1920's eara tube batery receiver model C-10642 in perfect cosmetic shape with three large bakelite knobs, and two small bakelite knobs, but I can only look at it. I also have a brand new Yaesu FTdx1200 that is 14 inches wide and can't hold a candle to my K3 SN 1025. It's big and it's pretty, but that's all it has that the K3 doesn't have. I'd rather have a better ugly rig that has superior performance than a a pretty one that doesn't. I'll stick with the K3 I have, and the K3S I have ordered. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:50:23 -0600, you wrote: In an earlier comment Wayne said that Elecraft takes comments made on this reflector into consideration for future improvement. I have two K3's and don't really have any negative comments but I do have some things that I would like to see improved -- or perhaps a better word would be different in the next Elecraft radio. While I recognize that the K3 was designed to be compact, light, and efficient for portability, I would like to see a version that is designed with style in mind. I would pay more for better finish. I used a FT1000D for many years before switching to the K3. Performance-wise the K3 is superior...and performance is the primary criteria for me in choosing a radio. However, with respect to finish, the Yaesu radio is superior. It looks and feels more expensive. Not everyone wants or needs a radio that is designed to be portable (and most active hams have more than one radio anyway). I'd like to see K3 performance come in a sleeker design...If you spin the tuning knob on the Yaesu, it is smooth and coasts along on ball bearings...the feel of the knobs and switches is better. A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and a larger cabinet would give more working space on the rear. (With the preamp, KPA500, KAT500, RTTY, external keyer, etc, the back on the K3 becomes a real kluge.) A radio designed to be more fixed station could also have the power supply built in and perhaps even have 150 - 200 watt capability. The P3 could be built in as well. The display on an IC7800 is really nice (in my opinion)...Elecraft could do something of similar quality. I'm not suggesting that the K3 or K3S be deleted from the product line -- just an alternate packaging solution that would compete more favorably with the Japanese look and feel. I'd gladly pay significantly more for a radio with K3 performance and IC7800 look and feel... and based on comments I have heard from others, I think that Elecraft would find a market for it. In fact I know some people who don't own a K3 because of the look. For some price will always be the primary consideration. For others, it is secondary. If Elecraft were to come out with a K3S Deluxe I would probably own both radios...keeping the K3 for whatever portable opportunity might present itself. I do miss the feel of the FT1000D. Also I would like to see the APF improved by allowing the peaking filter to be tuned as it was on the FT1000D. I almost always used the APF on the Yaesu but end up turning it off when I try it on the K3. I think the peak is too narrow. I realize I'm offering a lot of MY opinions here and not everyone will want or agree with my suggestions...but it is what it is -- my wish list. I'm hoping that this subject does not start a lot of speculation on what it would cost because that's not the point. If Elecraft were to consider a new design, they would have to determine the cost and its potential success in the market. Ohone more thing -- tongue firmly in cheek -- a larger cabinet would look good next to that 1500 watt amplifier that Elecraft teased us with at Dayton some years ago... 73, Greg-N4CC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@n5ge.com Amateur Radio Operator N5GE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
I would be happy to own an Elecraft rig that had those extra features, but I generally find that the buttons are large enough for my fat fingers and they're spaced far enough apart for me not to make mistakes. The only time I've been dissatisfied with the cabinet size is when someone else (who usually doesn't own a K3) complains that it doesn't look like a 'real' radio. Do I care? Do I . :-) 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Doug Person via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted If you review past posts regarding this subject, you'll find that it has been discussed in great detail. Just search on K4. Many of us would like to see a full-size, no-holds-barred Elecraft radio with the function of the P3 built-in much like the Icom radios and the new Kenwood TS-990. When and if that will ever happen remains a topic of pure speculation. Hint: don't hold your breath. 73, Doug -- K0DXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote: snip A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and a larger cabinet would give more working space on the rear. (With the preamp, KPA500, KAT500, RTTY, external keyer, etc, the back on the K3 becomes a real kluge.) A radio designed to be more fixed station could also have the power supply built in and perhaps even have 150 - 200 watt capability. The P3 could be built in as well. The display on an IC7800 is really nice (in my opinion)...Elecraft could do something of similar quality. The one feature I miss the most is having a button for each band. In my previous Yaesu rig, each band button had two settings, push once for your favorite CW settings and freq, and again for SSB. I use HRD macros for that now, but I really don't like to use the computer to push buttons on my radio. I could see a single additional button, a toggle function, which changed the personality of the keypad to make them band buttons. Toggle again, back to normal functionality for those buttons. Hey, and there's room for that button right next to the CLR button. Just saying... ;) -Chris __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
I have a Genovation Keypad that I can program up to do many functions. From: Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com To: Greg n...@windstream.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Greg n...@windstream.net wrote: snip A larger cabinet would allow bandswitch buttons labeled as such and a larger cabinet would give more working space on the rear. (With the preamp, KPA500, KAT500, RTTY, external keyer, etc, the back on the K3 becomes a real kluge.) A radio designed to be more fixed station could also have the power supply built in and perhaps even have 150 - 200 watt capability. The P3 could be built in as well. The display on an IC7800 is really nice (in my opinion)...Elecraft could do something of similar quality. The one feature I miss the most is having a button for each band. In my previous Yaesu rig, each band button had two settings, push once for your favorite CW settings and freq, and again for SSB. I use HRD macros for that now, but I really don't like to use the computer to push buttons on my radio. I could see a single additional button, a toggle function, which changed the personality of the keypad to make them band buttons. Toggle again, back to normal functionality for those buttons. Hey, and there's room for that button right next to the CLR button. Just saying... ;) -Chris __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
Brian, You are correct, it is a 2 button sequence, but I did not present it as a single button operation. If you hold the MV button instead of tapping it, you get AF Play - which is no problem if you do not have the DVR3 installed. Guest operators using my K3 at Field Day have had no problem with it even though they have had little experience with the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/6/2015 5:33 PM, brian wrote: Don, Respectfully, this isn't one button per band. It is two. Also tapping MV isn't foolproof because this button has two functions. Tap too long and you don't get MV. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted
I'm not suggesting you buy a KPA500, but those that have them do have a dedicated band button when properly cabled. Bob/AA6VB From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Features wanted Brian, You are correct, it is a 2 button sequence, but I did not present it as a single button operation. If you hold the MV button instead of tapping it, you get AF Play - which is no problem if you do not have the DVR3 installed. Guest operators using my K3 at Field Day have had no problem with it even though they have had little experience with the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/6/2015 5:33 PM, brian wrote: Don, Respectfully, this isn't one button per band. It is two. Also tapping MV isn't foolproof because this button has two functions. Tap too long and you don't get MV. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bobchor...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi Greg The market already seems to be saturated with radios that appear to meet your wants. I sold an FT-990, an FT-1000D, plus an IC'756ProII shortly after my K-line purchase and I've never regretted it. Both were fine radios, but certainly not equal to my K3. As someone recently posted ... chrome plate it ... it'll perform better. ;-) 73! Ken - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
