Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[K8TE]

I'm amazed that such an eclectic group has so many similar experiences in
which I am included:  flying, NAVAIDs, boats, trumpet, bass in choir, etc. 
Adding to the ILS story, while stationed at Canon AFB NM, I also worked
full-time as a TV broadcast engineer.  I was part of a team that installed a
new FM station at the same location.

Shortly after that, I got word at the Communications Squadron Chief of
Maintenance office where I worked of F-111D pilots experiencing country and
western music on on runway's ILS approach.  The FM frequency was 107.5, just
below the ILS localizer band.  My Chief and I stook a giant RADAR spectrum
analyzer (two-man carry) to the FM TX site.  As expected, it was clean.

Next, I visited the Avionics shop to put a USM/323 RF signal generator on
one of the F-111 ILS receivers.  With a 105.5 FM modulated signal, the ILS
RX lit up!  It was as broad as...!  The least expensive solution was to move
the ILS (Localizer and Glideslope since they're related) to a new frequency
pair.  That meant new antennas, phasing lines, alignment, etc.  I'm certain
it cost more than the new RCA FM transmitter and antenna/feedline, but was
"easier" to accomplish.

BTW, an HT and helmet-mounted headset work pretty well in sports car racing. 
However, I never tried to add HF mobile to my Spec Miata, much less try CW
while on the track!  I have some interesting in-car video recordings of me
calling my wife after some "incidents."  73, Bill, K8TE



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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Lee Ormiston]

There are many amateur radio operators in Civil Air Patrol as air crew
(Mission Pilot, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner, Mission Photographer),
Ground Team members, and Radio Communications officers also.

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Glen Torr  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Fascinating thread Wayne.
>
> Most of my time now is devoted to design of electronics for a radio
> telescope near Canberra in Australia.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molonglo_Observatory_Synthesis_Telescope
>
> Love my KX line though still a nervous nellie about CW.
>
> Most of my life now is doing hardware and code for the PIC18F67K40 to
> control beam formers for a telescope upgrade.
>
> Cheers All,
>
> Glen VK1FB (My call is a tribute to my mentor Doug DeMaw who I met in
> Connecticut in the late 70s).
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Terry Schieler]

Andy,
Pick up a copy of the DVD "North Atlantic Crossing".  Two young men used
what appeared to be an Icom HF rig for long distance communications on HF
air bands to contact various European airports on their route to Norway.
They installed a large, salt water fishing reel in the modified, single
engine  Mooney, complete with stranded copper antenna wire.  When time to
use an HF band, they cranked out just enough (pre-marked) wire from the
fishing reel to hit the resonant frequency.  I can't recall where/how the
antenna wire exited the aircraft but got the impression that, among other
mods (extra capacity fuel tanks, etc) the antenna device was approved for
that flight.

(www.flightfilms.com)  (800) 510-1017

Terry, W0FM

-Original Message-
From: ANDY DURBIN [mailto:a.dur...@msn.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 1:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

"Drag a wire behind you like they tow banners."


If it were as simple as you suggest then I think a few of us would be doing
it. Picking up banners with an aircraft in flight is a skill that most
pilots don't have. It would be far better to use a retractable antenna.
However, a legal installation of any sort of antenna extension/retraction
mechanism on an aircraft with a standard airworthiness cert would be a
significant challenge.


(No banner experience but I do have lots of time towing gliders and flying
jumpers)


73,

Andy k3wyc


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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Glen Torr]

Hi All,

Fascinating thread Wayne.

Most of my time now is devoted to design of electronics for a radio
telescope near Canberra in Australia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molonglo_Observatory_Synthesis_Telescope

Love my KX line though still a nervous nellie about CW.

Most of my life now is doing hardware and code for the PIC18F67K40 to
control beam formers for a telescope upgrade.

Cheers All,

Glen VK1FB (My call is a tribute to my mentor Doug DeMaw who I met in
Connecticut in the late 70s).
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Bill Frantz]

Many cavers are also hams. We use 2M HTs for communication on 
the surface when project caving in Sequoia and Kings Canyon 
national parks. The WA6BAI repeater lets us coordinate with 
people in Fresno from near the cave entrance. We can let the 
cook know how many people are planning to come for dinner.


Over half of the NCRC cave rescue instructors are hams. Ham 
radios have been very useful in some emergency situations. For 
example see the President's Letter in: 


We have also used QRP 80M radios for cave to surface 
communications. The radio in the cave had two random wire laid 
on the floor of the passage actin as an antenna with a tuner. 
This setup let us coordinate a cave radio demo showing how to 
locate the surface location directly over the transmitter in the cave.


More information about cave radios is in the back issues of 
Speleonics .


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/25/18 at 9:29 PM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote:

Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities 
we’re equally passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious 
example (one that renders this post marginally non-OT) is 
hiking / camping; for some of us, it’s a natural environment 
for small radios and big ambitions.
What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with 
as-yet-unsolved problems in the field of radio ergonomics?

Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you most 
enjoy talking about?

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Re: [Elecraft] Ham Radio as a Side Dish

[Roger Stein]

Ham-activated avocations

Rebuilding the instrument cluster in a 1988 Ford Mustang for road racing. Two 
fasteners, two factory Ford plugs and presto...out comes the dash pod!

Mega squirt air/spark/fuel engine management KIT, yes lots of soldering, same 
car now with a race built 347 stroker and a new engine harness for the new mass 
air meter, O2 sensor, 32# injectors.  Connects to a laptop pc for on the go 
engine tuning.  Also came with an engine simulator kit to test the final 
assembled board.

This car competed in the Nevada Silver State Classic and on road course tracks 
in WA and OR.

High speed electric model boats, hydros, sponson riggers, tunnel cats, mono 
hulls,
Many scratch built, all needing servos, speed controllers and RC gear. These 
were raced competitively against others racers in the different classes at the 
local area racing ponds. 

These were all things my son and I did together.

Who says hams don’t have other connected interests?!  Life is full of 
adventures, what are some of your ham inspired activities??

And after almost 54 years of hamming, finally made it to Dayton the last two 
years!

73, Roger VA1RST, K7SJ, WA7BOC 
K2 755, K3 75


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> On May 26, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> Like many others on the list, I survived decades as a pilot 
> (commercial-instrument, multi- and single- / former CFI / some noncompetitive 
> aerobatics / and a glider rating.)  In fact, I discovered long ago that many 
> GA pilots are hams and vice - versa.  More than one might expect.  The 
> advantage of ham radio is that I don't need a medical certificate to keep 
> doing it (lost mine in 2011 after battling with the FAA for a series of 
> "specials").  It is also far less expensive; unlike owning airplanes, I never 
> had to convince the XYL that owning a transceiver was financially reasonable.
> 
> A second connection is radio astronomy, along with the related subject of 
> SETI.  Anyone know if Paul Allen was ever a ham?
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
>--
> 
>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 21:29:11 -0700
>From: Wayne Burdick 
>To: Elecraft 
>Cc: KX3 
>Subject: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish
>Message-ID: <46f5cdbf-cbef-4f55-b88e-789a9b592...@elecraft.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> 
>Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we?re 
> equally passionate about ? perhaps more. An obvious example (one that renders 
> this post marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us, it?s a 
> natural environment for small radios and big ambitions. 
> 
>What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved 
> problems in the field of radio ergonomics? 
> 
>Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you most 
> enjoy talking about?
> 
>Wayne
>N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[kstover]

And expensive.

R. Kevin StoverAC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
One of the guys that made sneakernet irrelevant, in my little corner of the
world.
"If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the
20th.Just stop."

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of ANDY DURBIN
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 1:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

"Drag a wire behind you like they tow banners."


If it were as simple as you suggest then I think a few of us would be doing
it. Picking up banners with an aircraft in flight is a skill that most
pilots don't have. It would be far better to use a retractable antenna.
However, a legal installation of any sort of antenna extension/retraction
mechanism on an aircraft with a standard airworthiness cert would be a
significant challenge.


(No banner experience but I do have lots of time towing gliders and flying
jumpers)


73,

Andy k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Chuck Chandler]

Not me, a friend of mine...

Who is a pilot.  Not just a pilot, but certified by the FAA to give check
rides for small airplanes.  I don't know the specifics, but he does
aerobatics and all that.

Anyways, he's a contester and DX'er as well.

But, even though I'm sure he's a really good pilot, even he had to have a
check ride.  He was up near New York City, having a check ride and
apparently there is a flight area along the Hudson River that is really,
really tricky.  Has to be flown just about perfect, so that was his check
ride area.  His instructor, who apparently was at an even higher level,
told him to request the clearance for that corridor and ATC gave it to him
immediately.  His instructor wasn't expecting that and told him words to
the effect of "Be careful.  You talk better than you fly."

Apparently ATC tends to be hesitant to clear private pilots into that
corridor, but years of DX and Contest operations gave him the, shall we
say, savoir faire to be cleared without hesitation.  His request was
apparently crisp, clear, unequivocal and brief.

For my part, having been a cop since 1980 I've usually been the guy folks
go to for technical stuff.  Beyond radios, even.  Somehow I am expected to
know about cameras, computers, networking... and I've even picked up quite
a bit of it on the way.

73 de Chuck, WS1L

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Martin Sole  wrote:

> I can really relate to these two.
>
> As a kid I played drums. My father taught and played pretty much all his
> life until his hearing gave out. Though my CW has never been more than
> remedial mostly the sense of rhythm and timing is mostly excellent and I
> attribute it to those early years. When I took the then GPO 12wpm UK Morse
> test the coastguard guy did comment on my good fist.
>
> On the navaids ID I have a good one. Just recently I commissioned 2 ILS's
> out in the Middle East, though primarily for the US Air Forces use. I had a
> good raport with the tower guys and would often spend time up in the tower.
> Having just programmed the ILS idents I asked a controller to have one of
> the approaching aircraft take a listen and report the code back to be sure
> it was keying okay. It seems this, to me, simple request caught this
> particular KC135 crew off guard. "Wait one", came back the response, a
> couple of minutes later, somewhat confused sounding they came back with a
> "er, well, its kinda dee dee doh, doh dee doh, dee dee". Took me a second
> or two to figure they had actually got it right just with no spacing. I
> guess they don't teach pilots code now either.
>
> Though I've never worked on navaids in the US, only in Asia and EU, I've
> never done one with a voice ident, only ever CW.
>
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
>
> On 26/05/2018 19:56, Dave Sublette wrote:
>
>>
>>   Music: I play trumpet in a couple of bands. My experience with Morse
>> Code
>> has helped me (my opinion) be more precise with timing or rhythms.  I also
>> believe, although I'm not sure studies have proven, that ability to learn
>> and use Morse Code is highly correlated with musical ability.
>>
>> Flying: I hold Commercial, Multiiengine and Intrument ratings.  When I was
>> taking lessons, flying cross country using VORs (before GPS), I would tune
>> to the next VOR, I.D.it by hearing the Morse identifier, and turn the
>> volume down.  My instructor would then lecture me on the need for properly
>> I.D.ing the station before turning down the volume.  I had a hard time
>> making him understand that those dits and dahs were telling me the same
>> thing the voice would have.
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Michael Eberle]

They do banner towing at the airport I was taking lessons at. What I had 
in mind was more like dropping a wire antenna like they drop the banner 
hook without the need to fly low and actually hook a banner.  But I 
wasn't really being serious either.



On 5/26/2018 13:55, ANDY DURBIN wrote:

"Drag a wire behind you like they tow banners."


If it were as simple as you suggest then I think a few of us would be doing it. 
Picking up banners with an aircraft in flight is a skill that most pilots don't 
have. It would be far better to use a retractable antenna. However, a legal 
installation of any sort of antenna extension/retraction mechanism on an 
aircraft with a standard airworthiness cert would be a significant challenge.


(No banner experience but I do have lots of time towing gliders and flying 
jumpers)


73,

Andy k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Edward R Cole]

For me music ability aided sending good CW, not the reverse.  I 
played a band instrument from 5th grade thru end of HS, but acquired 
my Novice in my 8th grade (Nov. 1958, almost 60-years ago).  I passed 
the tech. 1959 (which used the General Class written exam) a year 
before taking algebra.


I also sang bass in church choir so music probably helped 
(something).  Church Choir netted me a girl friend.


Now back to your previous program (ham radio?)

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Edward R Cole]

For 35 years I raised and ran sled dogs here in AK.  1982-1988 I 
volunteered as radio operator from remote checkpoints on the Iditarod 
Sled Dog Race held each March from Anchorage to Nome (nearly 1200 
miles thru the AK  roadless wilderness).  In the early years of the 
race, ham radio provided communications for reporting progress of the 
teams using 80/40m and for supporting logistics (every thing either 
hauled by snowmachine or by light aircraft).  A lot of fun living in 
a wall-tent at -60F!


1989 I was hired as a marine radio operator in support of the Exxon 
Oil Spill outside of Valdez, AK.  Spent 13-months on that job.

My ham radio/2-way radio tech and experience as an emt got me that job.

I also have carried an HT while hiking/backpacking in the Sierra of 
CA (1970's).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Michael Eberle]

Drag a wire behind you like they tow banners.  You could fly steep turns 
and create a loop antenna. LOL


On 5/26/2018 08:00, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Magnetic loop?  Operating more than QRP might confuse avionics, however.
I can't see running a gallon and a half while in flight.   LOL

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 08:23 Chris Hallinan  wrote:


I have recently discovered the thrill of "aeronautical mobile" on 2m FM
using a handheld.  Line of sight has an entirely different meaning at 8000
feet in unobstructed air!

I would dearly love to figure out how to operate HF (20 meters) while
flying a small general aviation single-engine aircraft.   Haven't figure
out a workable antenna solution that doesn't require airframe modification,
etc.  I thought about a Zepp like the old days, but at 180+ mph that is
probably not workable.

73 de K1AY



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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Wayne Burdick]

Speaking of music: I earned a music minor in college, and CW helped quite a 
bit. The rhythm final was to sing or clap a chaotic collection of eight notes 
and dotted quarter notes -- basically dots and dashes -- so I did Morse a 
cappella and got an A :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On May 26, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Martin Sole  wrote:
> 
> I can really relate to these two.
> 
> As a kid I played drums. My father taught and played pretty much all his life 
> until his hearing gave out. Though my CW has never been more than remedial 
> mostly the sense of rhythm and timing is mostly excellent and I attribute it 
> to those early years. When I took the then GPO 12wpm UK Morse test the 
> coastguard guy did comment on my good fist.
> 
> On the navaids ID I have a good one. Just recently I commissioned 2 ILS's out 
> in the Middle East, though primarily for the US Air Forces use. I had a good 
> raport with the tower guys and would often spend time up in the tower. Having 
> just programmed the ILS idents I asked a controller to have one of the 
> approaching aircraft take a listen and report the code back to be sure it was 
> keying okay. It seems this, to me, simple request caught this particular 
> KC135 crew off guard. "Wait one", came back the response, a couple of minutes 
> later, somewhat confused sounding they came back with a "er, well, its kinda 
> dee dee doh, doh dee doh, dee dee". Took me a second or two to figure they 
> had actually got it right just with no spacing. I guess they don't teach 
> pilots code now either.
> 
> Though I've never worked on navaids in the US, only in Asia and EU, I've 
> never done one with a voice ident, only ever CW.
> 
> Martin, HS0ZED
> 
> 
> On 26/05/2018 19:56, Dave Sublette wrote:
>> 
>>  Music: I play trumpet in a couple of bands. My experience with Morse Code
>> has helped me (my opinion) be more precise with timing or rhythms.  I also
>> believe, although I'm not sure studies have proven, that ability to learn
>> and use Morse Code is highly correlated with musical ability.
>> 
>> Flying: I hold Commercial, Multiiengine and Intrument ratings.  When I was
>> taking lessons, flying cross country using VORs (before GPS), I would tune
>> to the next VOR, I.D.it by hearing the Morse identifier, and turn the
>> volume down.  My instructor would then lecture me on the need for properly
>> I.D.ing the station before turning down the volume.  I had a hard time
>> making him understand that those dits and dahs were telling me the same
>> thing the voice would have.
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Barry]

Wayne,
 Here on the east coast, we have boaters who run up or down the 
intracoastal waterway. The direction is dependant on season. Ham radio is used 
for two important purposes, the marine nets and non-business email. In the 
morning, the Waterway Net meets for traffic, position reports, and items of 
interest. The Maritime Mobile Net meets during the afternoon, east coast time, 
for assistance to voyaging boaters.

 Email is passed and received through the Winlink network. With stations 
world wide, a boater can have access on some band almost anytime. And, all of 
this, doesn't even touch on the other ham activities. Bjorn points out that he 
uses his backstage, so do the majority of sailors. Having gear that tolerates a 
salty environment would be great..

73,
Barry
K3NDM 

On May 26, 2018 12:10:35 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>Thanks, everyone, for the great stories and ideas on this thread (so
>far). Clearly I need to get out more :)
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>
>> On May 26, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Bjorn Pehrson  wrote:
>> 
>> Talking about oceans and sailing... I have a 28m2 IF-boat with an
>isolated ~13m back stay (http://www.sa0bxi.se)
>> 
>> My wish-list includes  a waterproof  kx2 with accessoires like a
>cockpit mount-bracket, a solar panel charger and  an antenna cable kit
>to connect to the backstay and including a non hull-intrusive
>counterpoise arrangement
>> 
>> bjorn, sa0bxi
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Martin Sole]

I can really relate to these two.

As a kid I played drums. My father taught and played pretty much all his 
life until his hearing gave out. Though my CW has never been more than 
remedial mostly the sense of rhythm and timing is mostly excellent and I 
attribute it to those early years. When I took the then GPO 12wpm UK 
Morse test the coastguard guy did comment on my good fist.


On the navaids ID I have a good one. Just recently I commissioned 2 
ILS's out in the Middle East, though primarily for the US Air Forces 
use. I had a good raport with the tower guys and would often spend time 
up in the tower. Having just programmed the ILS idents I asked a 
controller to have one of the approaching aircraft take a listen and 
report the code back to be sure it was keying okay. It seems this, to 
me, simple request caught this particular KC135 crew off guard. "Wait 
one", came back the response, a couple of minutes later, somewhat 
confused sounding they came back with a "er, well, its kinda dee dee 
doh, doh dee doh, dee dee". Took me a second or two to figure they had 
actually got it right just with no spacing. I guess they don't teach 
pilots code now either.


Though I've never worked on navaids in the US, only in Asia and EU, I've 
never done one with a voice ident, only ever CW.


Martin, HS0ZED


On 26/05/2018 19:56, Dave Sublette wrote:


  Music: I play trumpet in a couple of bands. My experience with Morse Code
has helped me (my opinion) be more precise with timing or rhythms.  I also
believe, although I'm not sure studies have proven, that ability to learn
and use Morse Code is highly correlated with musical ability.

Flying: I hold Commercial, Multiiengine and Intrument ratings.  When I was
taking lessons, flying cross country using VORs (before GPS), I would tune
to the next VOR, I.D.it by hearing the Morse identifier, and turn the
volume down.  My instructor would then lecture me on the need for properly
I.D.ing the station before turning down the volume.  I had a hard time
making him understand that those dits and dahs were telling me the same
thing the voice would have.



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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Wayne Burdick]

Thanks, everyone, for the great stories and ideas on this thread (so far). 
Clearly I need to get out more :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On May 26, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Bjorn Pehrson  wrote:
> 
> Talking about oceans and sailing... I have a 28m2 IF-boat with an isolated 
> ~13m back stay (http://www.sa0bxi.se)
> 
> My wish-list includes  a waterproof  kx2 with accessoires like a cockpit 
> mount-bracket, a solar panel charger and  an antenna cable kit to connect to 
> the backstay and including a non hull-intrusive counterpoise arrangement
> 
> bjorn, sa0bxi





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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Bjorn Pehrson]

Talking about oceans and sailing... I have a 28m2 IF-boat with an 
isolated ~13m back stay (http://www.sa0bxi.se)


My wish-list includes  a waterproof  kx2 with accessoires like a cockpit 
mount-bracket, a solar panel charger and  an antenna cable kit to 
connect to the backstay and including a non hull-intrusive counterpoise 
arrangement


bjorn, sa0bxi


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very far from the coast of ignorance. - Immanual Velikovsky



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[Phil Hystad]

???

> On May 26, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
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> before us a great uncharted ocean, and we have not sailed very far from the 
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[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Stan Horzepa]

Writing...

Always wanted to be a writer. Started writing what today would be called 
a "journal" back around 1960 when I was 9 years old, writing about 
astronomical events and the space race. Got a Remco crystal radio kit 
about that time, got hooked on radio, so I started writing about radio.


My first article was published in 73 magazine. Some 1,200 articles and a 
half dozen books later, I am still writing about radio 50 years in!


Stan, WA1LOU


On 5/26/18 12:29 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we’re equally 
passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious example (one that renders this post 
marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us, it’s a natural 
environment for small radios and big ambitions.

What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved 
problems in the field of radio ergonomics?

Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you most 
enjoy talking about?

Wayne
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[Phil Hystad]

My wife is a bird photographer (hobby, not professional, although she has been 
published).  But, going with her on these trips is not like a hike or walk in 
the park.  She will stalk a given bird for an hour or so waiting for the 
perfect shot.  Me, I would be standing there waiting.

So, more often these past couple of years I will park someplace convenient with 
my KX2 and Buddipole.  A few times I have even carried along a folding "card" 
table and chair if some other type of sitting area is not available.  This has 
actually become my favorite type of operating.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On May 25, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we’re equally 
> passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious example (one that renders this 
> post marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us, it’s a natural 
> environment for small radios and big ambitions. 
> 
> What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved 
> problems in the field of radio ergonomics? 
> 
> Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you most 
> enjoy talking about?
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[rich hurd WC3T]

Magnetic loop?  Operating more than QRP might confuse avionics, however.
I can't see running a gallon and a half while in flight.   LOL

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 08:23 Chris Hallinan  wrote:

> I have recently discovered the thrill of "aeronautical mobile" on 2m FM
> using a handheld.  Line of sight has an entirely different meaning at 8000
> feet in unobstructed air!
>
> I would dearly love to figure out how to operate HF (20 meters) while
> flying a small general aviation single-engine aircraft.   Haven't figure
> out a workable antenna solution that doesn't require airframe modification,
> etc.  I thought about a Zepp like the old days, but at 180+ mph that is
> probably not workable.
>
> 73 de K1AY
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>
> > Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we’re
> > equally passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious example (one that
> > renders this post marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us,
> > it’s a natural environment for small radios and big ambitions.
> >
> > What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved
> > problems in the field of radio ergonomics?
> >
> > Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you
> most
> > enjoy talking about?
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Dave Sublette]

I can think of a couple of things where my ham radio experience blends with
my other interests.  Radio Control Models: for many years I used the 53 MHz
band for my RC link.  Now that the GHz equipment has come along, I use
that.

 Music: I play trumpet in a couple of bands. My experience with Morse Code
has helped me (my opinion) be more precise with timing or rhythms.  I also
believe, although I'm not sure studies have proven, that ability to learn
and use Morse Code is highly correlated with musical ability.

Flying: I hold Commercial, Multiiengine and Intrument ratings.  When I was
taking lessons, flying cross country using VORs (before GPS), I would tune
to the next VOR, I.D.it by hearing the Morse identifier, and turn the
volume down.  My instructor would then lecture me on the need for properly
I.D.ing the station before turning down the volume.  I had a hard time
making him understand that those dits and dahs were telling me the same
thing the voice would have.

In the Navy, I was assigned to the deck force because I was waiting for an
opening to attend ET school.  The Navy's policy at that time was that I
didn't know anything until I had been to their school.  I copy CW at 25
wpm. While on watch, I read the light of the ship that was steaming with us
and realized that they had signaled for a U-turn in front of us.  When the
message failed to come down from the signal bridge, I informed the Officer
of the Deck.  Sure enough, they turned and we avoided colliding with them.
A few minutes later, he came over to me with a puzzled look and asked how I
knew they would be turning.  I told him I read the light.

I learned Morse in the Boy Scouts, on my way to becoming an Eagle Scout.  I
teach Radio Merit Badge to Scouts now.  Although Morse requirements have
been eliminated from the requirements, I still hope that some young person
will catch the magic and join our ranks.

73,

Dave, K4TO



On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM Chris Hallinan  wrote:

> I have recently discovered the thrill of "aeronautical mobile" on 2m FM
> using a handheld.  Line of sight has an entirely different meaning at 8000
> feet in unobstructed air!
>
> I would dearly love to figure out how to operate HF (20 meters) while
> flying a small general aviation single-engine aircraft.   Haven't figure
> out a workable antenna solution that doesn't require airframe modification,
> etc.  I thought about a Zepp like the old days, but at 180+ mph that is
> probably not workable.
>
> 73 de K1AY
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>
> > Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we’re
> > equally passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious example (one that
> > renders this post marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us,
> > it’s a natural environment for small radios and big ambitions.
> >
> > What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved
> > problems in the field of radio ergonomics?
> >
> > Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you
> most
> > enjoy talking about?
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham radio as a side dish

[Chris Hallinan]

I have recently discovered the thrill of "aeronautical mobile" on 2m FM
using a handheld.  Line of sight has an entirely different meaning at 8000
feet in unobstructed air!

I would dearly love to figure out how to operate HF (20 meters) while
flying a small general aviation single-engine aircraft.   Haven't figure
out a workable antenna solution that doesn't require airframe modification,
etc.  I thought about a Zepp like the old days, but at 180+ mph that is
probably not workable.

73 de K1AY



On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Many of us combine our affinity for radio with other activities we’re
> equally passionate about — perhaps more. An obvious example (one that
> renders this post marginally non-OT) is hiking / camping; for some of us,
> it’s a natural environment for small radios and big ambitions.
>
> What are your ham-activated avocations? Do they come with as-yet-unsolved
> problems in the field of radio ergonomics?
>
> Where is the boundary between communications media and the things you most
> enjoy talking about?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
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