Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
It was set at FPL, I changed it to FPH Let's see if thast makes a change! Thanks Gary > > Main Menu..Mic Select > > sorry > > On 24 March 2013 13:05, Gary Gregory wrote: > Main Menu..select FPH..tap 2 to toggle bias on/off , tap 1 to > toggle > FPH and FPL > > Gary > > > On 24 March 2013 13:01, Gary Smith wrote: > Don, > > I don't know how to find that bias setting. I apparently am not > as > good as I used to be when it comes to finding uncommon > details. > > There are other things I'm not as good at any more but that's > another > discussion. > > :) > > Gary KA1J > > > Gary, > > > > You should not have mic bias set on for that microphone > element and > > since that is a low output element, the mic gain range should > be set > > to > > high (FP.H. if you are connecting to the Front panel jack, > otherwise > > RP.H). > > > > To set up the mic gain, put the K3 into TX TEST and initially > set > > the > > mic compression to zero. Then adjust the mic gain to produce 5 > to 7 > > bars on the ALC display. After than, set the compression as > you > > desire > > (listening with headphones to the monitor may help you > determine the > > correct setting). > > > > You may try doing the Reference Oscillator calibration. > Strange and > > unrelated as it may seem, I have seen that clean up distorted > SSB > > signals. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > On 3/23/2013 8:24 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > > @ Jay, > > >> Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX > equalizers > > > settings > > > > > > Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat > @ 0. > > > Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off > > > > > > @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an > old > > Heil > > > HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose > QC15 > > > headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two > > connections, I > > > haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with > the > > bias > > > settings but I don't see that in the menu or config > options. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > -- > Gary - VK1ZZ > Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ > Motorhome Portable > The Shack > Elecraft K3 > P3 Panadapter > KPA500FT > KAT500FT > KX3-K > > > -- > Gary - VK1ZZ > Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ > Motorhome Portable > The Shack > Elecraft K3 > P3 Panadapter > KPA500FT > KAT500FT > KX3-K __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
OOPs... That should have been Gary, not Don sorry On 3/24/2013 0312, Harlan wrote: Don Press (don't hold) the MENU button. Rotate vfoB knob until you see MIC SEL then rotate vfoA knob to select FP (front panel) or rP (rear panel) . You can press A/B to select high or low. Press REV to turn bias on or off. Hope this helps. Harlan, NC3C Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gary Smith wrote: Don, I don't know how to find that bias setting. I apparently am not as good as I used to be when it comes to finding uncommon details. There are other things I'm not as good at any more but that's another discussion. :) Gary KA1J Gary, You should not have mic bias set on for that microphone element and since that is a low output element, the mic gain range should be set to high (FP.H. if you are connecting to the Front panel jack, otherwise RP.H). To set up the mic gain, put the K3 into TX TEST and initially set the mic compression to zero. Then adjust the mic gain to produce 5 to 7 bars on the ALC display. After than, set the compression as you desire (listening with headphones to the monitor may help you determine the correct setting). You may try doing the Reference Oscillator calibration. Strange and unrelated as it may seem, I have seen that clean up distorted SSB signals. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/23/2013 8:24 PM, Gary Smith wrote: @ Jay, Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX equalizers settings Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat @ 0. Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an old Heil HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose QC15 headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two connections, I haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with the bias settings but I don't see that in the menu or config options. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
Don Press (don't hold) the MENU button. Rotate vfoB knob until you see MIC SEL then rotate vfoA knob to select FP (front panel) or rP (rear panel) . You can press A/B to select high or low. Press REV to turn bias on or off. Hope this helps. Harlan, NC3C Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gary Smith wrote: >Don, > >I don't know how to find that bias setting. I apparently am not as >good as I used to be when it comes to finding uncommon details. > >There are other things I'm not as good at any more but that's another >discussion. > >:) > >Gary KA1J > >> Gary, >> >> You should not have mic bias set on for that microphone element and >> since that is a low output element, the mic gain range should be set >> to >> high (FP.H. if you are connecting to the Front panel jack, otherwise >> RP.H). >> >> To set up the mic gain, put the K3 into TX TEST and initially set >> the >> mic compression to zero. Then adjust the mic gain to produce 5 to 7 >> bars on the ALC display. After than, set the compression as you >> desire >> (listening with headphones to the monitor may help you determine the >> correct setting). >> >> You may try doing the Reference Oscillator calibration. Strange and >> unrelated as it may seem, I have seen that clean up distorted SSB >> signals. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 3/23/2013 8:24 PM, Gary Smith wrote: >> > @ Jay, >> >> Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX equalizers >> > settings >> > >> > Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat @ 0. >> > Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off >> > >> > @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an old >> Heil >> > HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose QC15 >> > headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two >> connections, I >> > haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with the >> bias >> > settings but I don't see that in the menu or config options. >> > >> > >> >> > > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
Don, I don't know how to find that bias setting. I apparently am not as good as I used to be when it comes to finding uncommon details. There are other things I'm not as good at any more but that's another discussion. :) Gary KA1J > Gary, > > You should not have mic bias set on for that microphone element and > since that is a low output element, the mic gain range should be set > to > high (FP.H. if you are connecting to the Front panel jack, otherwise > RP.H). > > To set up the mic gain, put the K3 into TX TEST and initially set > the > mic compression to zero. Then adjust the mic gain to produce 5 to 7 > bars on the ALC display. After than, set the compression as you > desire > (listening with headphones to the monitor may help you determine the > correct setting). > > You may try doing the Reference Oscillator calibration. Strange and > unrelated as it may seem, I have seen that clean up distorted SSB > signals. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 3/23/2013 8:24 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > @ Jay, > >> Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX equalizers > > settings > > > > Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat @ 0. > > Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off > > > > @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an old > Heil > > HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose QC15 > > headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two > connections, I > > haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with the > bias > > settings but I don't see that in the menu or config options. > > > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
Gary, You should not have mic bias set on for that microphone element and since that is a low output element, the mic gain range should be set to high (FP.H. if you are connecting to the Front panel jack, otherwise RP.H). To set up the mic gain, put the K3 into TX TEST and initially set the mic compression to zero. Then adjust the mic gain to produce 5 to 7 bars on the ALC display. After than, set the compression as you desire (listening with headphones to the monitor may help you determine the correct setting). You may try doing the Reference Oscillator calibration. Strange and unrelated as it may seem, I have seen that clean up distorted SSB signals. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/23/2013 8:24 PM, Gary Smith wrote: @ Jay, Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX equalizers settings Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat @ 0. Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an old Heil HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose QC15 headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two connections, I haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with the bias settings but I don't see that in the menu or config options. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
@ Jay, > Review the MIC CONFIG settings and maybe your TX equalizers settings Never used them but just looked at the Tx EQ and it is flat @ 0. Mic select is front panel, MIC+LIN is off @ Bill, Mic is an old Heil HM-5 desk mic & the element is an old Heil HC-4. Nothing plugged into the audio jacks except my Bose QC15 headset is in the phone jack. The element only has two connections, I haven't set bias anywhere. Maybe I should experiment with the bias settings but I don't see that in the menu or config options. Gary > What sort of mic arrangement? > > Is other stuff plugged into the audio in /out jacks.. > > Maybe a bit of rf getting into audio Jain, that is remove as many > connections as possible from the radio ... > Setting sound ok... > Maybe your mic doesn't need bias. > > Bill > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:15 PM, "Gary Smith" wrote: > > > I have a K3 and my antennae are 350 feet from the QTH. I run 99.9% > CW > > and rarely ever get on SSB, about the only time I do so is to join > in > > with a nice net on 160M & that makes it twice so far this year > that > > I've been on SSB. Both times I have been told my audio is broken > up > > and the latest description is "It sounds like its flat-topping". > When > > I listen in the monitor I sound as good as I'd expect when > listening > > to my own voice; doesn't sound like me but its not obviously > > distorted to me either. > > > > Mic gain is set at 30, compression 7. I've tried other settings > like > > zero compression and running the mic gain so low my LP-100A > wattmeter > > showed 200W out on peaks from an Alpha amp. I have no complaints > from > > my CW signal. > > > > I'd like to have a scope or monitor to view my signal but I don't > so > > I need to uncover this curiosity without nice spectrum gear to > help > > me. > > > > Idears? > > > > 73, > > > > Gary > > KA1J > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
@ Kent, > No more than 5 bars of ALC, nor 3 bars of CMP. That's about where I set it from around page 5 in the manual. I doesn't show up very well with the change in voice as I talk but I've tried to keep it to the left of the first large markers on the CMP & ALC graphs @ Matt, Yes, I need to find someone to help me that way. Don't know who they are yet, don't get on SSB enough to know a lot of the people close-by. What do you mean the fixed gain set to RP.H? And thanks for the replies, I'll get this right sooner than later! Gary KA1J > One idea is to find someone within easy contact distance that has > a > scope or panadapter, and ask him/her to snapshot your spectrum. > If > the Tx is flat-topping, it would show in the spectrum. > > Generally, I run the MIC GAIN at 12-15 here, with the fixed gain > set > to RP.H. This is with a Heil Goldline using the narrow element > most > of the time. > > 73, > matt W6NIA > > On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:15:06 -0400, you wrote: > > >I have a K3 and my antennae are 350 feet from the QTH. I run 99.9% > CW > >and rarely ever get on SSB, about the only time I do so is to join > in > >with a nice net on 160M & that makes it twice so far this year that > >I've been on SSB. Both times I have been told my audio is broken up > >and the latest description is "It sounds like its flat-topping". > When > >I listen in the monitor I sound as good as I'd expect when > listening > >to my own voice; doesn't sound like me but its not obviously > >distorted to me either. > > > >Mic gain is set at 30, compression 7. I've tried other settings > like > >zero compression and running the mic gain so low my LP-100A > wattmeter > >showed 200W out on peaks from an Alpha amp. I have no complaints > from > >my CW signal. > > > >I'd like to have a scope or monitor to view my signal but I don't > so > >I need to uncover this curiosity without nice spectrum gear to help > >me. > > > >Idears? > > > >73, > > > >Gary > >KA1J > >__ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB complaints I am getting
One idea is to find someone within easy contact distance that has a scope or panadapter, and ask him/her to snapshot your spectrum. If the Tx is flat-topping, it would show in the spectrum. Generally, I run the MIC GAIN at 12-15 here, with the fixed gain set to RP.H. This is with a Heil Goldline using the narrow element most of the time. 73, matt W6NIA On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:15:06 -0400, you wrote: >I have a K3 and my antennae are 350 feet from the QTH. I run 99.9% CW >and rarely ever get on SSB, about the only time I do so is to join in >with a nice net on 160M & that makes it twice so far this year that >I've been on SSB. Both times I have been told my audio is broken up >and the latest description is "It sounds like its flat-topping". When >I listen in the monitor I sound as good as I'd expect when listening >to my own voice; doesn't sound like me but its not obviously >distorted to me either. > >Mic gain is set at 30, compression 7. I've tried other settings like >zero compression and running the mic gain so low my LP-100A wattmeter >showed 200W out on peaks from an Alpha amp. I have no complaints from >my CW signal. > >I'd like to have a scope or monitor to view my signal but I don't so >I need to uncover this curiosity without nice spectrum gear to help >me. > >Idears? > >73, > >Gary >KA1J >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
