Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

We're looking at this right now. It must have crept in  with a recent release.

I'll post here as soon as I have an update.

Regards,
Eric

Eric
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On 2/21/2019 9:33 AM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

This is exactly what happened to me. Very annoying. My KPA is in the shop 
repairing the blown final and I hope they can address this issue as well. My 
thinking is that if a tuned solution for a given frequency is already known 
then it should be set as soon as the radio QSYs there.

  - pjd

-Original Message-
From: Walter J. Legowski 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:22 AM
To: Peter Dougherty ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently ignoring some of the 
signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line.  I can see, some of the time, the 
amplifier responding to the signal with a "clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new 
segment.  The rest of the time, I see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to 
transmit when the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it to Support 
yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.
  


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Walter J. Legowski
Support got back to me.  The tuner firmware guy is looking into it. 
Stay tuned...


Walt, WA1KKM


On 2/21/19 5:33 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

This is exactly what happened to me. Very annoying. My KPA is in the shop 
repairing the blown final and I hope they can address this issue as well. My 
thinking is that if a tuned solution for a given frequency is already known 
then it should be set as soon as the radio QSYs there.

  - pjd

-Original Message-
From: Walter J. Legowski 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:22 AM
To: Peter Dougherty ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently ignoring some of the 
signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line.  I can see, some of the time, the 
amplifier responding to the signal with a "clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new 
segment.  The rest of the time, I see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to 
transmit when the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it to Support 
yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.
  




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Dave
My KPA1500 tuner responds to CAT commands from my Flex radio and doesn’t miss a 
beat. 

So CAT seems to be fine but AUX connection is “intermittent”?

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Peter Dougherty  wrote:
> 
> This is exactly what happened to me. Very annoying. My KPA is in the shop 
> repairing the blown final and I hope they can address this issue as well. My 
> thinking is that if a tuned solution for a given frequency is already known 
> then it should be set as soon as the radio QSYs there.
> 
> - pjd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Walter J. Legowski  
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:22 AM
> To: Peter Dougherty ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question
> 
> I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently 
> ignoring some of the signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line. 
>  I can see, some of the time, the amplifier responding to the signal with a 
> "clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new segment.  The rest of the time, 
> I see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to transmit 
> when the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
> Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it 
> to Support yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Peter Dougherty
This is exactly what happened to me. Very annoying. My KPA is in the shop 
repairing the blown final and I hope they can address this issue as well. My 
thinking is that if a tuned solution for a given frequency is already known 
then it should be set as soon as the radio QSYs there.

 - pjd

-Original Message-
From: Walter J. Legowski  
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:22 AM
To: Peter Dougherty ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently 
ignoring some of the signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line.  
I can see, some of the time, the amplifier responding to the signal with a 
"clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new segment.  The rest of the time, I 
see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to transmit when 
the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it 
to Support yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread K9MA
If HiSWR AUTOTUNE is enabled, this would be the expected behavior. 
However, ATU switching at the start of transmission sometimes happens 
even with it disabled.


Elecraft is working on the ATU firmware in relation to this issue. I 
noticed it some time ago. Even with the HiSWR AUTOTUNE turned off and 
AUXBUS frequency data from the K3, the ATU sometimes switches when 
transmission starts. I don't know quite what it sounds like on the other 
end, but I seem to get asked for repeats off when it happens. Although 
the K3 sends frequency data to the KPA1500 only once per second, that 
isn't the main problem, as the switching occurs even if tuning has 
stopped for longer than that.


Stay tuned.

73,
Scott K9MA

On 2/21/2019 09:36, Jim Miller wrote:

Things to check

Could be bad aux cable. Is it from Elecraft?

Do you have anything else connected to aux?

Are you sure connectors are fully engaged?

On Feb 21, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Walter J. Legowski  wrote:

I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently ignoring some of the 
signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line.  I can see, some of the time, the 
amplifier responding to the signal with a "clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new 
segment.  The rest of the time, I see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to 
transmit when the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it to Support 
yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.

Walt, WA1KKM



On 2/21/19 3:36 AM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
Hi all,
Something I noticed this past weekend in the contest about the KPA1500,
especially on 80 and 160, where the internal tuner was needed on antennas
that were above ~1.5:1 SWR. When I changed frequencies into a range that
required retuning, I had to manually press the ATU control and initiate a
tune sequence, or else when I was auto-sending CW my call would get cut off
as the tuner set its needed values.
Since I'd memorized the entire band(s) ahead of time, is there a way for the
memorized tuning solutions to load on QSY, rather than on RF application? It
really slowed me down as I was S my way through the low bands on Friday
night.
  -
73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT
President, North Jersey DX Association
DXCC Card Checker
Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Jim Miller
Things to check

Could be bad aux cable. Is it from Elecraft?

Do you have anything else connected to aux?

Are you sure connectors are fully engaged?

On Feb 21, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Walter J. Legowski  wrote:

I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is apparently 
ignoring some of the signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a scope on that line.  
I can see, some of the time, the amplifier responding to the signal with a 
"clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to the new segment.  The rest of the time, I 
see the signal, but no response from the amp.  If you attempt to transmit when 
the signal is ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune 
Complete" on the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it 
to Support yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.

Walt, WA1KKM


> On 2/21/19 3:36 AM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> Hi all,
> Something I noticed this past weekend in the contest about the KPA1500,
> especially on 80 and 160, where the internal tuner was needed on antennas
> that were above ~1.5:1 SWR. When I changed frequencies into a range that
> required retuning, I had to manually press the ATU control and initiate a
> tune sequence, or else when I was auto-sending CW my call would get cut off
> as the tuner set its needed values.
> Since I'd memorized the entire band(s) ahead of time, is there a way for the
> memorized tuning solutions to load on QSY, rather than on RF application? It
> really slowed me down as I was S my way through the low bands on Friday
> night.
>  -
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
> President, North Jersey DX Association
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-21 Thread Walter J. Legowski
I experienced the same thing, especially on 20M.  The tuner is 
apparently ignoring some of the signals on the AUXBUS line.  I put a 
scope on that line.  I can see, some of the time, the amplifier 
responding to the signal with a "clunk" as the tuner relays adjust to 
the new segment.  The rest of the time, I see the signal, but no 
response from the amp.  If you attempt to transmit when the signal is 
ignored, you get chattering relays followed by "ATU Retune Complete" on 
the amp display.  I took a photo of the signal trace and sent it to 
Support yesterday.  They haven't gotten back to me yet.


Walt, WA1KKM


On 2/21/19 3:36 AM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

Hi all,
Something I noticed this past weekend in the contest about the KPA1500,
especially on 80 and 160, where the internal tuner was needed on antennas
that were above ~1.5:1 SWR. When I changed frequencies into a range that
required retuning, I had to manually press the ATU control and initiate a
tune sequence, or else when I was auto-sending CW my call would get cut off
as the tuner set its needed values.

Since I'd memorized the entire band(s) ahead of time, is there a way for the
memorized tuning solutions to load on QSY, rather than on RF application? It
really slowed me down as I was S my way through the low bands on Friday
night.

  


-
73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT



President, North Jersey DX Association

DXCC Card Checker
Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau

  


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-20 Thread Jim Miller
With updated firmware and an aux cable this should be happening. 

Jim ab3cv 

On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:42 PM, Nr4c  wrote:

Put the ATU in Man mode. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Peter Dougherty  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Something I noticed this past weekend in the contest about the KPA1500,
> especially on 80 and 160, where the internal tuner was needed on antennas
> that were above ~1.5:1 SWR. When I changed frequencies into a range that
> required retuning, I had to manually press the ATU control and initiate a
> tune sequence, or else when I was auto-sending CW my call would get cut off
> as the tuner set its needed values.
> 
> Since I'd memorized the entire band(s) ahead of time, is there a way for the
> memorized tuning solutions to load on QSY, rather than on RF application? It
> really slowed me down as I was S my way through the low bands on Friday
> night.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
> 
> 
> 
> President, North Jersey DX Association
> 
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 tuner question

2019-02-20 Thread Nr4c
Put the ATU in Man mode. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Peter Dougherty  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Something I noticed this past weekend in the contest about the KPA1500,
> especially on 80 and 160, where the internal tuner was needed on antennas
> that were above ~1.5:1 SWR. When I changed frequencies into a range that
> required retuning, I had to manually press the ATU control and initiate a
> tune sequence, or else when I was auto-sending CW my call would get cut off
> as the tuner set its needed values.
> 
> Since I'd memorized the entire band(s) ahead of time, is there a way for the
> memorized tuning solutions to load on QSY, rather than on RF application? It
> really slowed me down as I was S my way through the low bands on Friday
> night.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
> 
> 
> 
> President, North Jersey DX Association
> 
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
> 
> 
> 
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