Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
On 3/2/2013 8:35 PM, Kevin Luxford wrote: Perhaps people could write to Mr Palmer at his company, Mineralogy Pty Ltd using their website form at http://www.mineralogy.com.au/form.html urging the inclusion of a CW operator in the Titanic II ship's crew. The cost would be chickenfeed to him. As some of us on this list know (and the rest of us should know), the Morse-based Safety of Life at Sea requirements have been changed about 15 years ago to a satellite- and SSB- based Global Maritime Distress and Safety System. New ships, and many older ships, no longer have radio equipment capable of and certified for working MF or HF Morse, and with the exception of a handful of historical installations, there are no coast stations available to work them, even if the ship's comm officer holds the appropriate Radio Officer and RadioTelegraph Operator licenses. The best approach would be to get permission from the Master of the vessel to operate a ham station which, by law, must be separate and distinct from the ship's radio communication system. The operator must have the appropriate authorization from the country of the ship's registry as well. At least that's what the law says 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ARRL Volunteer Counsel Member, Maritime Radio Historical Society (MF and HF Coast Station KSM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
Phil has a great idea. Since the GMDSS system is virtually always located on the navigating bridge where one of the officers there operate it, the space for the radio room should be available for a Ham rig. Now to hide a K-line setup behind vintage front panels identical to those in the original Titanic ;-) 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Kane Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:13 AM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW? On 3/2/2013 8:35 PM, Kevin Luxford wrote: Perhaps people could write to Mr Palmer at his company, Mineralogy Pty Ltd using their website form at http://www.mineralogy.com.au/form.html urging the inclusion of a CW operator in the Titanic II ship's crew. The cost would be chickenfeed to him. As some of us on this list know (and the rest of us should know), the Morse-based Safety of Life at Sea requirements have been changed about 15 years ago to a satellite- and SSB- based Global Maritime Distress and Safety System. New ships, and many older ships, no longer have radio equipment capable of and certified for working MF or HF Morse, and with the exception of a handful of historical installations, there are no coast stations available to work them, even if the ship's comm officer holds the appropriate Radio Officer and RadioTelegraph Operator licenses. The best approach would be to get permission from the Master of the vessel to operate a ham station which, by law, must be separate and distinct from the ship's radio communication system. The operator must have the appropriate authorization from the country of the ship's registry as well. At least that's what the law says 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ARRL Volunteer Counsel Member, Maritime Radio Historical Society (MF and HF Coast Station KSM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
Actually, it was spark that played a role, and we probably won't hear that from the Titanic II, since it hasn't been legal on the air since 1938. CW was still at least a decade off, though the date seems to be elusive. Spark was still the mode used in 1920 for ships at sea, as chronicled in the novel The Nymph and the Lamp, by Thomas Raddall, a good read. And, yes, it would be nice if Morse Code could be heard from the Titanic II, in any mode. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:28 PM, stan levandowski wrote: I heard about Titanic II on CNN this evening. I don't think there will be any hams operating from the radio room in today's post-911 days of paranoia about security but I sure do hope that between now and 2016, those DXpedition- caliber hams with influence and the $$$ will approach the right people to start talks on putting some kind of plan in place that acknowledges the full historical account of the Titanic including the Radio Act of 1912 that followed the disaster. CW played a role and who better to celebrate that around the world than we hams! What great publicity this could be for amateur radio, CW, and the sponsors of such an effort. 73, Stan WB2LQF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
My own research done for a recent club presentation suggested that Spark was dead around 1920 for commercial purposes as a result of Lee DeForest's vacuum tube which ushered in the age of CW. I also found several references to spark having been outlawed for use on the ham bands in 1923-1924. By the late 1920s the only spark transmitters still in operation were legacy units on naval vessels. What I wasn't able to determine is if the term naval meant Navy or Merchant or both. In any case, my point is the Titanic sent CQD and later SOS using Morse Code. 73, Stan WB2LQF On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rick Dettinger wrote: Actually, it was spark that played a role, and we probably won't hear that from the Titanic II, since it hasn't been legal on the air since 1938. CW was still at least a decade off, though the date seems to be elusive. Spark was still the mode used in 1920 for ships at sea, as chronicled in the novel The Nymph and the Lamp, by Thomas Raddall, a good read. And, yes, it would be nice if Morse Code could be heard from the Titanic II, in any mode. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:28 PM, stan levandowski wrote: I heard about Titanic II on CNN this evening. I don't think there will be any hams operating from the radio room in today's post-911 days of paranoia about security but I sure do hope that between now and 2016, those DXpedition- caliber hams with influence and the $$$ will approach the right people to start talks on putting some kind of plan in place that acknowledges the full historical account of the Titanic including the Radio Act of 1912 that followed the disaster. CW played a role and who better to celebrate that around the world than we hams! What great publicity this could be for amateur radio, CW, and the sponsors of such an effort. 73, Stan WB2LQF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, stan levandowski sjl...@optonline.net wrote: ...the Titanic sent CQD and later SOS == I am no historian, but a Google search turns up many pages on this topic. Here's a typical one with its versions of the answers to questions of transmitter type and code used: http://www.avsia.com/djohnson/titanic.html Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
And here's another with a small picture and many tech details. http://marconigraph.com/titanic/wireless/mgy_wireless.html BTW I have heard of Continental code but do not know how it differs from the Morse we use. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
Tony, here is a link to an article and if you page down one or two pages, you'll see the three code variants all nicely lined up to compare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code 73, Stan WB2LQF On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Tony Estep wrote: BTW I have heard of Continental code but do not know how it differs from the Morse we use. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Titanic II 2016 ...and CW?
For a bit more information on Titanic II, go to http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/clive-palmer-launches-titanic-plan/story-e6frg6so-1226586501589 Perhaps people could write to Mr Palmer at his company, Mineralogy Pty Ltd using their website form at http://www.mineralogy.com.au/form.html urging the inclusion of a CW operator in the Titanic II ship's crew. The cost would be chickenfeed to him. 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
