Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
HI Wayne Anyway, a useful indication could be the split (i.e +1.50) offset instead of the VFO B frequency (user choice based on the DISP status). This is rarely done by manufacturers (I know the TS-990 which does this) but this is very useful in practice and avoids mental calculations. 73, Laurent F6DEX - Laurent F6DEX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7599107.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
And in order to make the user interface properly user friendly, we could have a CONFIG item to set the shock voltage so that the operator suffers unbearable pain rather than death :-) 73, Quin G3WRR From: Mitch Wolfson DJØQN dj...@gmx.net To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2015, 11:21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says UP in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 On 18.02.2015 02:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I would like to have the ability to see the split as a Delta frequency display. It is a feature on my old TS180S that I miss on the K3. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:38:31 -0600, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to stew...@twinwood.me __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
How about a menu option for flashing or non-flasing delta f lamp? Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com /divdivDate:02/18/2015 12:17 AM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: d...@nk7z.net /divdivCc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown /divdiv /divI argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Please leave it alone. The TX marker point to B and the SPLIT with a border around it is enough. 73, Ken K3IU ~~ On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kenk...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I think as you and W4TV have pointed out, there isn't a problem in determining that SPLIT is on. Not noticing that it's OFF is the issue! Wayne can make the radio sit up and whistle 'Dixie' when SPLIT is on and it will not help. I used to be prime cop meat until I made a macro to turn on SPLIT as well as set VFO B up a couple of kHz. What caused my error was that I was so focused on finding the station working the DX with VFO B, that I forgot the extra button press. My solution was to combine turning on SPLIT with offsetting VFO B. Either the user can make a macro, or Wayne could implement the much-discussed programmable SPLIT feature. On 18 Feb 2015 03:38, Don Wilhelm wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne -- 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
While we are on this subject, I have PF1 programmed for split up 2KHZ and PF2 programmed for split up 5KHZ. Is there a way I can program RCVR B to have a very wide filter setting tied into PF! Or PF2? Right now after holding in either PF1 or PF2 I need to go into B SET to open up the bandwidth. I like a wide bandwidth on the B RCVR to make it easier to find who the FDX is working. Tnx N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:17 AM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says UP in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 On 18.02.2015 02:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Mitch, Your brilliant mind is again on the case. I though a small shock delivered to the paddle would be a help. But seriously, I do think that a flashing delta frequency LED could help and I would like this option.I have sinned and never want to do so again. It seems that I want the K3 to keep me out of trouble. Well any reminder is welcome. The Flashing Led has my vote - it is an option. Elecraft are great. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mitch Wolfson DJØQN Sent: 18 February 2015 11:22 To: Joe Subich, W4TV; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says UP in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 On 18.02.2015 02:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnb...@net1.ie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
And then, responsible people will cover up the annoying flashing LED with tape. Jim W6AIM -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jbol...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
We need more Btu's to boil the ocean, to solve this major problem.. Yea, right Jim W6AIM -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Cady, Fred Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown What I'd like to see is a change to the cursors in the P3. It would be nice if the transmit VFO were always red. So when not split, VFO A would be red, when XIT on, VFO A receive would be green and the XIT offset shown in red(as it is now). VFO B could stay magenta. When split, VFO receive is green and VFO B red. Flashing something when in split doesn't warn you when you should be in split and are not so I agree with Eric. Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@ece.montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jbol...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Amen, maybe modulate the off and on at an audio frequency to make it wax and wane instead of blink. Nah, I didn't say that. I really didn't. That strange guy standing over there in the corner, he said it, wasn't me 73, Guy On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net wrote: How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I agree...ain't broke so why fix it? I use split with diversity reception on 2m-eme. I need to see both frequencies just like it is, currently. If you want an option to flash delta-f, fine. I note that it is illuminated when in SPLIT. My only problem is to remember to enter my new Tx frequency when I change Rx frequency via my sw (which doesn't instruct the K3, automatically). I do have a utility which I can send the K3 my new operating frequency to VFO-A which I then have to swap to have on VFO-B. A little clumsy but its become a reflex action. What I don't have is something reminding me to enter the new Tx frequency (dummy). I don't need Elecraft changing anything (its really an operator issue). So if you make a change have it available as an option in the menu, so those of use who have no issue with it as-is do not have to change anything. BTW having diversity easier to enter will be nice. 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Ken K3IU kenk...@cox.net To: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com, Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Message-ID: 54e4693f.9020...@cox.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Please leave it alone. The TX marker point to B and the SPLIT with a border around it is enough. 73, Ken K3IU 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Mode change drops it out of split -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:21 -0600, dave wrote: too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT I'm curious about this, how does the K3 drop out of SPLIT? The only way I know to get into and out of split is to hold the AB button. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
So long as it doesn't also mess up with the output of the FA command. It's already bad enough that the radio stops to respond at all when you press REV, making all the software go in hamlib timeout. Thanks Pf Wayne == Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes: Wayne Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne Wayne -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of split. I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to go to DATA or AM it shows a 'SPLIT N/A' message in the VFO B window and refuses to change modes. So the op must manually turn off split to go to those modes. And if the op has to push the button, that is not a drop out. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 2/18/15 12:15 PM, David Cole wrote: Mode change drops it out of split __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I can reproduce it now...Place the rig in USB... Press and hold Split... Change modes to CW, split goes away every time here. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 12:48 -0600, dave wrote: On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of split. I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to go to DATA or AM it shows a 'SPLIT N/A' message in the VFO B window and refuses to change modes. So the op must manually turn off split to go to those modes. And if the op has to push the button, that is not a drop out. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 2/18/15 12:15 PM, David Cole wrote: Mode change drops it out of split __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Hi Dave, I use macros to set up my split and remove it when finished. That works very well. I am also familiar with tap - tap - hold to set the rig into split mode. However, if I happen to do something unrelated, and then later return to the DX, I may have caused the split to have dropped out. I do not use the special setting under CONFIG to hold that for me. Most of the time I don't want to maintain the split while working a typical two-way contact. So the problem for me is How can I be certain that the split is active when I am expecting it? I know there are three signals on the rig, but if I happen to be concentrating on the P3, or something else, I may not notice that I have lost the split that I had there just moments ago. I often follow the red line on the P3 as I search for a clear spot to make my call - - only to find out that the VFO B split wasn't really activated after all. Food for the frequency cops. Embarrassing for me. regards, Doug, VE3VS On 2/18/2015 11:21 AM, dave wrote: too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT I'm curious about this, how does the K3 drop out of SPLIT? The only way I know to get into and out of split is to hold the AB button. Is there some other front panel way? Is there a firmware bug that occasionally causes the K3 to forget it is in split? Or some combination of presses of other buttons? Holding the AB button takes a conscious effort. Not something that happens accidentally. If it is external software (rig control, logger, etc) doing it, then that software needs to be fixed. Not an Elecraft problem. And, FWIW, the SPLIT icon is rather large and is immediately above the VFO B display. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Hi Dave, That is very odd, mine did! I tested it several times, and now no... I am confused. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 12:48 -0600, dave wrote: On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of split. I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to go to DATA or AM it shows a 'SPLIT N/A' message in the VFO B window and refuses to change modes. So the op must manually turn off split to go to those modes. And if the op has to push the button, that is not a drop out. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 2/18/15 12:15 PM, David Cole wrote: Mode change drops it out of split __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:48:13 -0600 dave ho13d...@gmail.com writes: On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of split. I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to This isnt going to go away ? kinda a bit much Bob K3DJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT I'm curious about this, how does the K3 drop out of SPLIT? The only way I know to get into and out of split is to hold the AB button. Is there some other front panel way? Is there a firmware bug that occasionally causes the K3 to forget it is in split? Or some combination of presses of other buttons? Holding the AB button takes a conscious effort. Not something that happens accidentally. If it is external software (rig control, logger, etc) doing it, then that software needs to be fixed. Not an Elecraft problem. And, FWIW, the SPLIT icon is rather large and is immediately above the VFO B display. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 2/18/15 8:23 AM, Doug VE3VS wrote: I have been a K3 user for a few years. The one event that has always bugged me is that it seems way too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT, with the result that I have made far too many transmissions (unwittingly) on the DX calling frequency rather than where the frequency of VFO B is indicating, and where the cursor on the P3 is showing. Yes, I know about the yellow LED and the tiny down indicator and the small (SPLT) that should be illuminated. However, many of my previous rigs have always had what I considered to be a superb feature, the flipping of the frequency readouts, a very visible and noticeable change that can be picked up with even peripheral vision if looking somewhat away from the actual readout. I have a single receiver in my K3, and naturally I quite often use the REV button to check out the pileup. Notice how easily the display flips. I really wish the display would do exactly that when PTT is asserted, so it would clearly indicate that I really am still operating split. I hope this could become a user option in the near future. Doug VE3VS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
One way you can drop out of SPLIT is this. If the SPLIT SV menu item is OFF, and you are operating split, if you switch to another band and turn SPLIT off, then come back to the original band, SPLIT will be OFF. Turn SPLIT SV ON to fix this. That way, the split status per band is maintained. 73, Ted, W2ZK On 2/18/2015 11:21 AM, dave wrote: too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT I'm curious about this, how does the K3 drop out of SPLIT? The only way I know to get into and out of split is to hold the AB button. Is there some other front panel way? Is there a firmware bug that occasionally causes the K3 to forget it is in split? Or some combination of presses of other buttons? Holding the AB button takes a conscious effort. Not something that happens accidentally. If it is external software (rig control, logger, etc) doing it, then that software needs to be fixed. Not an Elecraft problem. And, FWIW, the SPLIT icon is rather large and is immediately above the VFO B display. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 2/18/15 8:23 AM, Doug VE3VS wrote: I have been a K3 user for a few years. The one event that has always bugged me is that it seems way too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT, with the result that I have made far too many transmissions (unwittingly) on the DX calling frequency rather than where the frequency of VFO B is indicating, and where the cursor on the P3 is showing. Yes, I know about the yellow LED and the tiny down indicator and the small (SPLT) that should be illuminated. However, many of my previous rigs have always had what I considered to be a superb feature, the flipping of the frequency readouts, a very visible and noticeable change that can be picked up with even peripheral vision if looking somewhat away from the actual readout. I have a single receiver in my K3, and naturally I quite often use the REV button to check out the pileup. Notice how easily the display flips. I really wish the display would do exactly that when PTT is asserted, so it would clearly indicate that I really am still operating split. I hope this could become a user option in the near future. Doug VE3VS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
What I'd like to see is a change to the cursors in the P3. It would be nice if the transmit VFO were always red. So when not split, VFO A would be red, when XIT on, VFO A receive would be green and the XIT offset shown in red(as it is now). VFO B could stay magenta. When split, VFO receive is green and VFO B red. Flashing something when in split doesn't warn you when you should be in split and are not so I agree with Eric. Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@ece.montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I have been a K3 user for a few years. The one event that has always bugged me is that it seems way too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT, with the result that I have made far too many transmissions (unwittingly) on the DX calling frequency rather than where the frequency of VFO B is indicating, and where the cursor on the P3 is showing. Yes, I know about the yellow LED and the tiny down indicator and the small (SPLT) that should be illuminated. However, many of my previous rigs have always had what I considered to be a superb feature, the flipping of the frequency readouts, a very visible and noticeable change that can be picked up with even peripheral vision if looking somewhat away from the actual readout. I have a single receiver in my K3, and naturally I quite often use the REV button to check out the pileup. Notice how easily the display flips. I really wish the display would do exactly that when PTT is asserted, so it would clearly indicate that I really am still operating split. I hope this could become a user option in the near future. Doug VE3VS Wayne said Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. ...that too would be a very obvious indicator that the rig is actually doing what we wanted it to do. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598836.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Instead of flashing the Delta-F LED that is on the far left of the radio, would it not be more effective to flash the SPLT indicator, TX indicator and arrow in the display just like the TX flashes when in test mode? After all, this is where your attention is usually focused. To be most effective, do not make the flashing optional. 73, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:48 AM To: Dwayne Rohmer Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I like it. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:38 PM, Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net wrote: How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Hi Tony, Yes you can set the VFO bandwidth as part of your macro Mine is as follows DV0;SWT13;SW13;FT1;UPB5;XT0;SB1;MN111;MP001;MN255;BW$0100; BW$0100; Sets VFO B filter bandwidth at 1Khz for 2.7KHz you would want BW$0270; MN111;MP001;MN255 sets up the internal audio mixer to A Ab so that the main is in both ears and the sub in right ear only my 'clear' macro FT0;RT0;DV0;SB1;MN111;MP000;MN255;SB0; undoes the audio mix On 18/02/2015 11:31, N2TK, Tony wrote: While we are on this subject, I have PF1 programmed for split up 2KHZ and PF2 programmed for split up 5KHZ. Is there a way I can program RCVR B to have a very wide filter setting tied into PF! Or PF2? Right now after holding in either PF1 or PF2 I need to go into B SET to open up the bandwidth. I like a wide bandwidth on the B RCVR to make it easier to find who the FDX is working. Tnx N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:17 AM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I think Steve has it correct. Everybody engaged in this discussion obviously understands how to get in and out of split and knows when to use it. I believe that the 3 existing visual indicators on the K3 are adequate. I think the problem occurs because we are not looking at the K3. We are concentrating on the audio and studying our P3 and computer monitor(s). We might be turning the VFO-B knob but we're not necessarily looking at the radio. So when we hear UP we don't even realize that we are the offender. 73, Mike K2MK wb6rse1 wrote THE simplest solution is for the op to just simply pay attention. Steve WB6RSE -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598831.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
To add a little more fuel to the fire there is another option that could keep the two sides happy. If the main display was to show the active frequency on RX and on TX. I.E when in split mode change the main display to the TX frequency the RX freq then being shown on the sub display and reverting back as you go back to RX. This feature could be enabled or disabled by a flag in config. I am sure there are many more alternatives that are worthy of a consideration. 73 de Tony G6GLP On 18/02/2015 11:10, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote: I think as you and W4TV have pointed out, there isn't a problem in determining that SPLIT is on. Not noticing that it's OFF is the issue! Wayne can make the radio sit up and whistle 'Dixie' when SPLIT is on and it will not help. I used to be prime cop meat until I made a macro to turn on SPLIT as well as set VFO B up a couple of kHz. What caused my error was that I was so focused on finding the station working the DX with VFO B, that I forgot the extra button press. My solution was to combine turning on SPLIT with offsetting VFO B. Either the user can make a macro, or Wayne could implement the much-discussed programmable SPLIT feature. On 18 Feb 2015 03:38, Don Wilhelm wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Please just forget I asked. I give, I give! K2PI On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Don Wilhelm-4 [via Elecraft] ml-node+s365791n7598777...@n2.nabble.com wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=7598777i=0 This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=7598777i=1 -- If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598777.html To unsubscribe from Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown, click here http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=7598758code=Z2FkZ2V0bHVzdEBnbWFpbC5jb218NzU5ODc1OHw4NTMyNzM2NTM= . NAML http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598778.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I'd like to see the option for a fair sized notice saying SPLIT in Red on the right 1/2 of the screen, on the P3/SVGA when I'm in SPLIT operation, I'm more looking at that when I'm chasing in a pileup. Since I have the SVGA, I rarely look at the P3 itself except top select changes and focus on the monitor instead. The K3 is to my left and I rarely look on its left side except when changing bands or modes; I personally would like the in-your-face SPLIT available on the monitor. Place it lower on the waterfall or above the reference level, somewhere it's obvious but does not occlude necessary visual data. Not seeing SPLIT in red would be obvious if you're wanting to be there. 73, Gary KA1J --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
G! No! If someone, looking at the display, doesn't notice the SPLT, or the down arrow, then I don't think another indicator is gonna do any good. I think the problem lies in NOT looking at the radio in the passion of the chase. If the radio is in split, and the VFO's are equal, then put a KV on the mic or keyer. 73, Mike NF4L On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Or, when in the SPLIT mode, and transmitting on VFO A, have the display programmed to scroll UP UP UP U IDIOT. ;o) Terry WØFM -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:38 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Sure. Put BW$; where is the bandwidth/10 desired in the macro assigned to the key. So BW$0200; sets the bandwidth of the subrx to 2 kHz. On 18 Feb 2015 13:31, N2TK, Tony wrote: While we are on this subject, I have PF1 programmed for split up 2KHZ and PF2 programmed for split up 5KHZ. Is there a way I can program RCVR B to have a very wide filter setting tied into PF! Or PF2? Right now after holding in either PF1 or PF2 I need to go into B SET to open up the bandwidth. I like a wide bandwidth on the B RCVR to make it easier to find who the FDX is working. Tnx N2TK, Tony -- 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Thanks Vic and Brendan for your input. I will do that today. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:17 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Hi Tony, Yes you can set the VFO bandwidth as part of your macro Mine is as follows DV0;SWT13;SW13;FT1;UPB5;XT0;SB1;MN111;MP001;MN255;BW$0100; BW$0100; Sets VFO B filter bandwidth at 1Khz for 2.7KHz you would want BW$0270; MN111;MP001;MN255 sets up the internal audio mixer to A Ab so that the main is in both ears and the sub in right ear only my 'clear' macro FT0;RT0;DV0;SB1;MN111;MP000;MN255;SB0; undoes the audio mix On 18/02/2015 11:31, N2TK, Tony wrote: While we are on this subject, I have PF1 programmed for split up 2KHZ and PF2 programmed for split up 5KHZ. Is there a way I can program RCVR B to have a very wide filter setting tied into PF! Or PF2? Right now after holding in either PF1 or PF2 I need to go into B SET to open up the bandwidth. I like a wide bandwidth on the B RCVR to make it easier to find who the FDX is working. Tnx N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:17 AM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Can we have the radio shout UP! UP! UP! and then an exasperated idiot? Thanks, Jeff From: Ken Chandler g0...@sky.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:07:09 + Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Wayne The radio has recording playback ability. Why not! Put a pre recorded fixed / user enabled, audible warning message when out of SPLIT mode! Ken.. G0ORH - M3i __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I agree with Eric ... the Delta-F lamp is the *third* indicator of split operation and is already rather bright even when MENU:LED BRT is reduced to near the minimum. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-18 1:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. The software can enable it as quickly as the user can disable it G. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-18 6:21 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says UP in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 On 18.02.2015 02:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I know that it's not the K3 display, but I have my MicroHam Keyer II LCD setup in that way. Normally the top display line shows the K3 VFO A and the bottom line VFO B. When transmitting in SPLIT the top line changes to display the same frequency as the bottom line. Very easy to see 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:23:50 -0700 (MST), Doug VE3VS wrote: I have been a K3 user for a few years. The one event that has always bugged me is that it seems way too easy to unknowingly have the rig drop out of SPLIT, with the result that I have made far too many transmissions (unwittingly) on the DX calling frequency rather than where the frequency of VFO B is indicating, and where the cursor on the P3 is showing. Yes, I know about the yellow LED and the tiny down indicator and the small (SPLT) that should be illuminated. However, many of my previous rigs have always had what I considered to be a superb feature, the flipping of the frequency readouts, a very visible and noticeable change that can be picked up with even peripheral vision if looking somewhat away from the actual readout. I have a single receiver in my K3, and naturally I quite often use the REV button to check out the pileup. Notice how easily the display flips. I really wish the display would do exactly that when PTT is asserted, so it would clearly indicate that I really am still operating split. I hope this could become a user option in the near future. Doug VE3VS Wayne said Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. ...that too would be a very obvious indicator that the rig is actually doing what we wanted it to do. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequen cy-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598836.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to stew...@twinwood.me __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
What a good idea! Also, why not just write SPLIT on the screen someplace of the P3, and flash the Delta-F light. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 05:22 -0700, Cady, Fred wrote: What I'd like to see is a change to the cursors in the P3. It would be nice if the transmit VFO were always red. So when not split, VFO A would be red, when XIT on, VFO A receive would be green and the XIT offset shown in red(as it is now). VFO B could stay magenta. When split, VFO receive is green and VFO B red. Flashing something when in split doesn't warn you when you should be in split and are not so I agree with Eric. Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@ece.montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Isn't that what the red is showing? From: David Cole d...@nk7z.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown What a good idea! Also, why not just write SPLIT on the screen someplace of the P3, and flash the Delta-F light. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 05:22 -0700, Cady, Fred wrote: What I'd like to see is a change to the cursors in the P3. It would be nice if the transmit VFO were always red. So when not split, VFO A would be red, when XIT on, VFO A receive would be green and the XIT offset shown in red(as it is now). VFO B could stay magenta. When split, VFO receive is green and VFO B red. Flashing something when in split doesn't warn you when you should be in split and are not so I agree with Eric. Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@ece.montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
In my opinion the K3 already does a more than adequate job of indicating split. The Delta LED is Eye catching enough. Mind you my P3 is to the left of My K3 thus the LED certainly within my eye-line when operating. However from the point of view of a standalone radio it might make better sense if the Delta LED was just to the right of the main display, but I am sure there are good design reasons why this is not the case. Fundamentally however we have an operating problem, far too many jump straight into a pileup without first listening to see what is happening. Taking a little time to listen first always pays dividends in terms of working the dx and lessens the chance of footshooting. If I was to suggest one change it would be for an option to prevent the Delta LED coming on when small amounts or RIT/XIT are applied, Even 1 Hz of RIT or XIT applied activates it, thus training the operator to pay less attention to the Yellow LED. Perhaps an option to only enable the Delta LED when the TX/RX offset is greater than 200Hz or 500Hz ? In IT we have a technical term for a certain type of problem that involves the operator, it's PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair ) I too have occasionally been the problem in pileups but it's my fault, it's PEBKAC and not the fault of the radio. 73 Brendan EI6IZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I’m not sure why I feel compelled to contribute to his thread when I am, in general, more the reader than the contributor. Perhaps it is because I was deathly afraid of being called a L** while trying to work Navassa. In any event, on the topic of split display, feedback, I make the following observation. I really don’t need to know when I am in split (bare with me), I need to know that I am not in split when I should be. Wayne - I’m not sure how you would code for this one. Only once was I in split when I should not have been, and nobody complained. Hoop K9QJS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I use MacLoggerDX for my logging program and it automatically applies split to my K3 when selecting a frequency that is spotted as working split. Works great for hunting DX but you’re on your own again in a contest where using spotting aids is not allowed. In this case I’ve become accustomed to looking for the VFO B marker in the P3 display to be sure I’ve got split applied. Will, AI4VE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Joe is right Wayne, you've done a good job, LATFD [look at the ... display!] Chasing K1N, I had N1MM running to send for me at 35 WPM, and it puts a big SPLIT! in front of me. That helped too. But if you're going to change things, on another subject, I'd like you to put my Sweepstakes exchange into VFO B when I'm operating in that SSB contest and step on the footswitch. I can never remember it quickly enough. :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 2/17/2015 4:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Please let it die. I know now that I was just terribly wrong to ask for a feature that the experts here agree had already been implemented correctly. Let it rest. K2PI On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT [via Elecraft] ml-node+s365791n7598779...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Maybe add speech recognition to the DSP code, so it can recognize when the DX station says it's working split, the radio will refuse to transmit on VFO A. On 2/17/2015 5:38 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=7598779i=0 This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=7598779i=1 -- If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598779.html To unsubscribe from Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown, click here http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=7598758code=Z2FkZ2V0bHVzdEBnbWFpbC5jb218NzU5ODc1OHw4NTMyNzM2NTM= . NAML http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758p7598782.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
THE simplest solution is for the op to just simply pay attention. Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Maybe add speech recognition to the DSP code, so it can recognize when the DX station says it's working split, the radio will refuse to transmit on VFO A. On 2/17/2015 5:38 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the up cops. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
That's always a worthy goal. But if enough users have trouble keeping track of a particular state, it's incumbent on the UI designer to come up with a better indication. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:16 PM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote: THE simplest solution is for the op to just simply pay attention. Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the down arrow pointing to the VFO [B] icon 3) the red Delta-F LED between the Power button and Phones jack. Changing the VFO A display in transmit would be incorrect since VFO A does not change - the selected VFO changes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 6:36 PM, Bob Harvey - K2PI wrote: Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX cops on frequency. Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. 73 Harv K2PI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-display-of-Transmit-frequency-on-keydown-tp7598758.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I'm used to it the way it is now. If I don't notice the SPLIT on the display and the YELLOW delta, the up cops remind me posthaste. :o) Rick wa6nhc On 2/17/2015 4:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with SPL during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
I like it. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:38 PM, Dwayne Rohmer djcaroh...@ntin.net wrote: How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be too (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
