Re: [Elecraft] VFO IND in the KX3?

2014-10-27 Thread Dave
I found similar at GW0FRE. The kx3 HAD to have an external BPF but was still
outperformed on the band by my IC706mkIIG which didn't need one. I now use
the KX3 with a 30m IF Xverter which works fine

Dave

WW2R

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:01:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: KB5NJD jlangri...@sbcglobal.net
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Thanks Wayne.  I have an RX converter I can put in line that ports to 80m
also. I will just have to create the relay logic for RX/TX but I have all
the info and materials I need to do that.

Interestingly enough, the RX seems ok down there but I have outboard
filters in place.  Sensitivity is down a bit but its not a show stopper, or
it has not been so far.  More real time evaluation is in order.

thanks again for the clarification.  I am very happy with the KX3 and can
apply my workaround to make this fill my need.

73!

John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ




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Re: [Elecraft] VFO IND in the KX3?

2014-10-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Dave,

To resurrect a technical description about LF-band receive I posted earlier 
this year:

* * *

The KX3 does not have filtering specifically for the lower portion of the AM 
radio band. It is intended primarily as a ham-band transceiver, and covers 
nearly the entire SWL range. But to completely eliminate low AM-band 
3rd-overtone LO images such as the one you're hearing would require at least 
two and possibly three more filters (more on that below). Complicating this is 
the high-pass filter in the T/R switch, which is intended to protect the PIN 
diodes from very strong signals below 1 MHz or so. This attenuates low-AM-band 
signals. (To quote the KX3 product brochure on our web site: ...also covers 
0.31 - 1.5 MHz with reduced sensitivity….)

The KXAT3 ATU provides some additional filtering for the lower AM range when 
correctly configured. But at 500 kHz, the LO still isn't filtered enough to 
eliminate strong signals.

* * *

The IC706mkIIG probably uses a keying relay rather than PIN diodes in the main 
T/R path.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 27, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Dave elecr...@g4fre.com wrote:

 I found similar at GW0FRE. The kx3 HAD to have an external BPF but was still
 outperformed on the band by my IC706mkIIG which didn't need one. I now use
 the KX3 with a 30m IF Xverter which works fine
 
 Dave
 
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Re: [Elecraft] VFO IND in the KX3?

2014-10-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
John,

The KX3 has dual watch (up to +/- 15 kHz VFO A and B separation within the 
current band). But it does not allow the VFOs to be on different bands. (The K3 
allows VFO INDependent in conjunction with the sub receiver, which also has its 
own front end filters, allowing simultaneous receive on two different bands).

To do what I think you require on the KX3, you could set up 160 m and 80 m for 
the desired frequencies, then hit BAND+ or BAND- to go from TX to RX. It's 
still just a single switch press.

Regarding 475 kHz receive: My guess is you'll want to use the up-converter. The 
KX3's sensitivity and image rejection is optimized for the ham bands, and I'm 
not sure it will meet your needs at this frequency.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:27 PM, KB5NJD jlangri...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Good Afternoon,
 
 I recently received my KX3 and its amazing.
 
 I am very active on the 630m band as a Part 5 experimental station and use
 an outboard transmit downconverter with an 80m IF to generate a signal. 
 While I have RX upconverters that port to various bands, the native RX seems
 ok so at least at first I plan on using the internal general coverage RX.
 
 I just ran into a problem, however.  I need to be able to TX on one band and
 RX on another, literally VFO A is RX at 475 KHz and VFO B is TX at 3675 Khz. 
 Every time I manually enter a freq, when I presee enter, it changes both
 VFO's to the same band.  I have been told that in the K3, there is a menu
 setting (VFO IND) to allow independent VFO's but I dont see that option with
 the KX3.
 
 How do I do this?  The manual does not indicate any instructions for
 crossband operation but I do it with my Yaesu's and they seem very happy
 with this type of operation so I suspect there is a way to make this happen.
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 John Langridge KB5NJD / WG2XIQ
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] VFO IND in the KX3?

2014-10-25 Thread KB5NJD
Thanks Wayne.  I have an RX converter I can put in line that ports to 80m
also. I will just have to create the relay logic for RX/TX but I have all
the info and materials I need to do that.

Interestingly enough, the RX seems ok down there but I have outboard
filters in place.  Sensitivity is down a bit but its not a show stopper, or
it has not been so far.  More real time evaluation is in order.

thanks again for the clarification.  I am very happy with the KX3 and can
apply my workaround to make this fill my need.

73!

John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ



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