Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
Re VisaIia: I was interested in the new offering from N6BT (?) 40m vertical with integral ground plane, all in one rigid package. It looks very similar to a system suggested by Moxon many years ago. I tried that using wire, bamboo sticks and a fishing rod. I don't quite see how he could take a patent on it but it was a very neat package. David G3UNA > On 17 April 2019 at 16:41 CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net > wrote: > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
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I also enjoyed Ned's presentation. There is however no need for new transceiver architectures to support FT8 DX mode. The multi-transmission for FT8 Fox is created entirely through software by combining the baseband (audio) signal for each "transmitter" into a composite signal fed to the transceiver. Multi-reception is also purely a software affair. Any modern radio, including the K3, supports this out of the box. There is thus no need for multiple CAT interfaces. Unless you want to run several bands simultaneously in one radio, of course. But that is no different from CW or any other mode. 73, Björn SM7IUN Den ons 17 apr. 2019 kl 09:41 skrev Erik Basilier : > Tonight I attended a presentation by Ned Stearns AA7A on the Dxpedition > version of FT8, and his extensive architectural design contributions to the > Baker Island operation as well as his input to Joe Taylor's work on the > protocol. While most of us don't need anything like the Baker station > setup, the technical issues may nevertheless influence the direction and > needs of the overall amateur gear market. With Elecraft's emphasis on > supporting Dxpeditions I am sure that they look at such issues when > considering new features for the K4 etc. Just a few points from the > presentation that stuck in my mind: > * The radio transmit frequency must be controlled by both the logger and > the JT software, which work together but are separate. I have no personal > experience with FT8, but I understand that (either with the current version > or very soon) the DX hunter's transmit frequency will be dictated > automatically on the fly by the DX starion, within a segment of the overall > FT8 frequency window, such that the DX can overlap several FT8 qso's in > time. This necessitates working around the basic "single sender" RS-232 > signalling scheme. Ways to do this were recently discussed here, and need > not be repeated. My point: Elecraft might consider an attempt to > standardize a new communication scheme for station control, such as to > simplify the whole setup. Wiring a station is already disturbimgly > complicated where multiple radios are involved. > * The DX station would thus go beyond "SO2R" to something more like > "SO4R". The FLEX approach already seems to have an edge in savings on > mulit-radio hardware; a market-leading Elecraft architecture might optimize > overall hardware cost when one operator is to use 2,3 or 4 virtual radios. > Just hope it can be done so modularly that a small configuration is still > affordable. > * With the current interest in FT8, there seems to be pressure for the > hardware to have capability to process a frequency segment that is larger > than an SSB bandwidth. > 73, > Erik K7TV > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Bill Frantz > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:28 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visalia? > > I didn't spend any time at the Flex booth, although their signas touted > SmartSDR Version 3, so I expect they were also talking about multiFlex. > > While there may not be a lot of use for multiFlex in the normal DX chaser, > perhaps except for those stations that really don't want US responses so > transmit in the US phone band but listen in the US CW band, there are some > interesting uses for DXpeditions. > > AA7JV was interested in running both CW and FT8 on 160M with one amplifier > and transmit antenna. (He said setting up two stations was too much work, > and you needed to be running both modes on those "magic nights" when 160 > was open.) > > He described an approach using a Flex in his talk at the Topband dinner > and in his ""The RIB: Radio In a Box for DXpeditions" session. > > The idea of RIB is to put the box in the rare DX with a generator and > antenna, and operate it from the boat off shore via UHF based internet, > just visiting the DX to set up, service the generator, and tear down. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
Tonight I attended a presentation by Ned Stearns AA7A on the Dxpedition version of FT8, and his extensive architectural design contributions to the Baker Island operation as well as his input to Joe Taylor's work on the protocol. While most of us don't need anything like the Baker station setup, the technical issues may nevertheless influence the direction and needs of the overall amateur gear market. With Elecraft's emphasis on supporting Dxpeditions I am sure that they look at such issues when considering new features for the K4 etc. Just a few points from the presentation that stuck in my mind: * The radio transmit frequency must be controlled by both the logger and the JT software, which work together but are separate. I have no personal experience with FT8, but I understand that (either with the current version or very soon) the DX hunter's transmit frequency will be dictated automatically on the fly by the DX starion, within a segment of the overall FT8 frequency window, such that the DX can overlap several FT8 qso's in time. This necessitates working around the basic "single sender" RS-232 signalling scheme. Ways to do this were recently discussed here, and need not be repeated. My point: Elecraft might consider an attempt to standardize a new communication scheme for station control, such as to simplify the whole setup. Wiring a station is already disturbimgly complicated where multiple radios are involved. * The DX station would thus go beyond "SO2R" to something more like "SO4R". The FLEX approach already seems to have an edge in savings on mulit-radio hardware; a market-leading Elecraft architecture might optimize overall hardware cost when one operator is to use 2,3 or 4 virtual radios. Just hope it can be done so modularly that a small configuration is still affordable. * With the current interest in FT8, there seems to be pressure for the hardware to have capability to process a frequency segment that is larger than an SSB bandwidth. 73, Erik K7TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visalia? I didn't spend any time at the Flex booth, although their signas touted SmartSDR Version 3, so I expect they were also talking about multiFlex. While there may not be a lot of use for multiFlex in the normal DX chaser, perhaps except for those stations that really don't want US responses so transmit in the US phone band but listen in the US CW band, there are some interesting uses for DXpeditions. AA7JV was interested in running both CW and FT8 on 160M with one amplifier and transmit antenna. (He said setting up two stations was too much work, and you needed to be running both modes on those "magic nights" when 160 was open.) He described an approach using a Flex in his talk at the Topband dinner and in his ""The RIB: Radio In a Box for DXpeditions" session. The idea of RIB is to put the box in the rare DX with a generator and antenna, and operate it from the boat off shore via UHF based internet, just visiting the DX to set up, service the generator, and tear down. 73 Bill AE6JV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
Sorry for the delay answering, we're on holiday and the Iphoney thing is not easy with my fingers. Essentially, add a video capture box to the the vga output from the P3 and send that with the radio data. Don't ask me any more, I just don't know. The main thing is you don't need a camera to look at the P3 screen which would lose resolution and seems very clunky to me. Looking forward to doing this in the next month or 2. Eric gave me his card to call him when I'm ready. He was demonstrating the system at the show via hotel WiFi which kept dropping. David G3UNA > On 16 April 2019 at 03:28 Fred Jensen wrote: > > > And, the outcome of the conversation was??? > > 73, > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 4/15/2019 5:22 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: > > I had a nice chat with Eric talking about remoting the P3 > > David G3UNA > >> On 15 April 2019 at 23:01 Barry Baines via Elecraft > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Bill: > >> > >>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > >>> > >>> No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was > >>> emphasized. The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly > >>> low key, with nothing new and earth shattering. > >> Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 > >> featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx > >> series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with > >> SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same > >> time)? Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering > >> what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability? > >> > >> I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users > >> are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what > >> advantages it brings to their operating experience. However, there > >> appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as > >> well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of > >> transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two > >> operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna. > >> > >> I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest > >> operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and > >> software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to > >> see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate > >> to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other > >> equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. > >> > >> 73, > >> Barry, WD4ASW > >> > >>> 73 Bill AE6JV > >>> > >>> On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: > >>> > Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX > Convention? > >>> --- > >>> Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle > >>> (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave > >>> www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > >>> > >>> __ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
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Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
And, the outcome of the conversation was??? 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/15/2019 5:22 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: I had a nice chat with Eric talking about remoting the P3 David G3UNA On 15 April 2019 at 23:01 Barry Baines via Elecraft wrote: Bill: On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with nothing new and earth shattering. Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)? Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability? I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages it brings to their operating experience. However, there appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna. I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. 73, Barry, WD4ASW 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX Convention? --- Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
I didn't spend any time at the Flex booth, although their signas touted SmartSDR Version 3, so I expect they were also talking about multiFlex. While there may not be a lot of use for multiFlex in the normal DX chaser, perhaps except for those stations that really don't want US responses so transmit in the US phone band but listen in the US CW band, there are some interesting uses for DXpeditions. AA7JV was interested in running both CW and FT8 on 160M with one amplifier and transmit antenna. (He said setting up two stations was too much work, and you needed to be running both modes on those "magic nights" when 160 was open.) He described an approach using a Flex in his talk at the Topband dinner and in his ""The RIB: Radio In a Box for DXpeditions" session. The idea of RIB is to put the box in the rare DX with a generator and antenna, and operate it from the boat off shore via UHF based internet, just visiting the DX to set up, service the generator, and tear down. 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/15/19 at 3:01 PM, bbai...@mac.com (Barry Baines) wrote: Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)? Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability? I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages it brings to their operating experience. However, there appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna. I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. 73, Barry, WD4ASW --- Bill Frantz| Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
And? 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 4/15/19 5:22 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: I had a nice chat with Eric talking about remoting the P3 David G3UNA On 15 April 2019 at 23:01 Barry Baines via Elecraft wrote: Bill: On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with nothing new and earth shattering. Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)? Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability? I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages it brings to their operating experience. However, there appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna. I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. 73, Barry, WD4ASW 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX Convention? --- Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
I had a nice chat with Eric talking about remoting the P3 David G3UNA > On 15 April 2019 at 23:01 Barry Baines via Elecraft > wrote: > > > Bill: > > > On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > > > No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. > > The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with > > nothing new and earth shattering. > > Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 > featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series > transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR > and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)? Given the > focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction > might have been to this newly released capability? > > I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are > being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages > it brings to their operating experience. However, there appears to be > significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single > operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and > associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the > same transceiver to share the same antenna. > > I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest > operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and > software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see > whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to > tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment > manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. > > 73, > Barry, WD4ASW > > > > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: > > > >> Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX > >> Convention? > > > > --- > > Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle > > (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave > > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
Bill: > On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. > The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with > nothing new and earth shattering. Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same time)? Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability? I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what advantages it brings to their operating experience. However, there appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna. I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements. 73, Barry, WD4ASW > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: > >> Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX >> Convention? > > --- > Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?
No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was emphasized. The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly low key, with nothing new and earth shattering. 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote: Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX Convention? --- Bill Frantz| I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Visalia
On Thu,4/2/2015 6:35 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: And I'll be at the Contest Academy, Jim. You aren't presenting this time? No. 73, Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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And I'll be at the Contest Academy, Jim. You aren't presenting this time? I went to a similar contest academy at SeaPac last June. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 3/31/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Visalia is also a contester hangout. NCCC does a Contest Academy on Friday. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hmm .. contester hangout vs. Starbucks: Which has the greatest appeal? :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 3/31/15 9:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On Tue,3/31/2015 9:38 AM, Jim Lowman wrote: IDXC is a one-of-a-kind gathering of DXers, as far as I know. These guys are serious, and not afraid to spend money. IDXC attracts ~ 800 hard-core DXers each year. Visalia is also a contester hangout. NCCC does a Contest Academy on Friday. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Tue,3/31/2015 1:54 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Hmm .. contester hangout vs. Starbucks: Which has the greatest appeal? :- There's a Starbucks 3 blocks from the Marriott, which is adjacent to the convention center. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'll settle for picking up my KX3 :-) 73 Dave G3WGN WJ6O - 73 Dave G3WGN WJ6O -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Visalia-sales-tp7377712p7378097.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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P3's and SVGA adapter boards at Dayton too! On 3/15/2012 9:20 PM, Ralph Parker wrote: Is it too early to ask what might be for sale at Visalia (maybe in P3 shaped boxes behind the table that one could take home)? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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And freshly made KAT500's too.. I hope! 73, Bob K2TK On 3/16/2012 12:29 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: P3's and SVGA adapter boards at Dayton too! On 3/15/2012 9:20 PM, Ralph Parker wrote: Is it too early to ask what might be for sale at Visalia (maybe in P3 shaped boxes behind the table that one could take home)? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Kevin Rock wrote: Wayne flat refused my request to make a TARDIS Too bad... but the K9 development program is well under way. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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the K9 development program As long as it nose is cool and moist... Visalia: Is it really that time of the year again? Time flies doesn't it. I too would love to know if and what Wayne Eric Lyle ??? goodies were to be seen, heard, felt, smelt or otherwise be extraordinarily perceived. toby __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Eric said they were frying other fish. He did not mention which ones :) Kevin. KD5ONS -Original Message- From: Randy Hall listk7...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 17, 2009 9:28 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Visalia What's new? Randy K7AGE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Wayne flat refused my request to make a TARDIS; maybe we can convince him to craft a Babelfish for us :) Kevin. -Original Message- From: Bruce Bowman, NM5B n...@rabbit-rabbit.org Sent: Apr 17, 2009 9:56 PM To: Kevin Rock kev...@cs.unm.edu Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visalia Maybe one is an 800 watt fish? Just... maybe? :) Bruce, NM5B Santa Fe, NM - Original Message - From: Kevin Rock kevinr...@earthlink.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visalia Eric said they were frying other fish. He did not mention which ones :) Kevin. KD5ONS -Original Message- From: Randy Hall listk7...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 17, 2009 9:28 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Visalia What's new? Randy K7AGE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ele __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html