Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Don Roberts via Elecraft
We used Vodka for cleaning VHF and UHF broadcast transmitters. Told by RCA 
engineers that that is what was in their expensive bottles sold to radio 
stations. Other alcohol agents left a residue that would eventually arc over.
Don, W4CBS 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 6:17 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: 
  Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my field
= Perfume
And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
parts, Hic..and other things
73 ..needin a chair
Paul KB9AVO

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ  wrote:

> I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds of
> alcohol
>
> Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very nature
> so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a feedstock
> for making other chemicals.
>
> Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear is
> available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
> “denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added to
> gasoline.
>
> Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
> alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
> absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying isopropanol
> solutions to the skin.
>
> Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
> Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.
>
> This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more
>
> David K0LUM
>
> > On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > John NI0K,
> > Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> > different products.
> > Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
> > alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> > Steve
> > WM6P
>
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to don_roberts2...@yahoo.com   
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Lee Ormiston
Julia,
Yes, they swallowed the stuff.  The said it hurt to swallow ice water and
it was too painful to swallow anything else for about a week.
Lee
N0RRL

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 7:26 PM Julia Tuttle  wrote:

> Jesus, that sounds awful. Did they *swallow* it? Did it do the same to
> their *esophagus*?
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 21:24 Lee Ormiston  wrote:
>
>> To add another thought to the medical doctor's good comments, when I was
>> in
>> school studying chemistry, some of my slower friends studying less
>> rigorous subjects thought it would be a good idea to drink straight
>> Everclear.  They quickly and painfully learned the Everclear pulled water
>> from the tissues in their mouth which then blistered.  They reported it
>> was
>> all very painful.
>> Lee
>> N0RRL
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 4:17 PM Paul Van Dyke 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my
>> field
>> > = Perfume
>> > And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
>> > parts, Hic..and other things
>> > 73 ..needin a chair
>> > Paul KB9AVO
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common
>> kinds of
>> > > alcohol
>> > >
>> > > Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very
>> nature
>> > > so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a
>> feedstock
>> > > for making other chemicals.
>> > >
>> > > Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.
>> Everclear is
>> > > available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
>> > > “denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly
>> added to
>> > > gasoline.
>> > >
>> > > Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
>> > > alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
>> > > absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying
>> isopropanol
>> > > solutions to the skin.
>> > >
>> > > Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
>> > > Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.
>> > >
>> > > This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more
>> > >
>> > > David K0LUM
>> > >
>> > > > On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > John NI0K,
>> > > > Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
>> > > > different products.
>> > > > Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is
>> > grain
>> > > > alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
>> > > > Steve
>> > > > WM6P
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > Elecraft mailing list
>> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> > >
>> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> > > Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
>> > __
>> > Elecraft mailing list
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> >
>> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> > Message delivered to ldormis...@gmail.com
>> __
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net
>
>
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Julia Tuttle
Jesus, that sounds awful. Did they *swallow* it? Did it do the same to
their *esophagus*?

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 21:24 Lee Ormiston  wrote:

> To add another thought to the medical doctor's good comments, when I was in
> school studying chemistry, some of my slower friends studying less
> rigorous subjects thought it would be a good idea to drink straight
> Everclear.  They quickly and painfully learned the Everclear pulled water
> from the tissues in their mouth which then blistered.  They reported it was
> all very painful.
> Lee
> N0RRL
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 4:17 PM Paul Van Dyke 
> wrote:
>
> > Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my
> field
> > = Perfume
> > And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
> > parts, Hic..and other things
> > 73 ..needin a chair
> > Paul KB9AVO
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ  wrote:
> >
> > > I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds
> of
> > > alcohol
> > >
> > > Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very
> nature
> > > so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a
> feedstock
> > > for making other chemicals.
> > >
> > > Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear
> is
> > > available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
> > > “denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added
> to
> > > gasoline.
> > >
> > > Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
> > > alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
> > > absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying
> isopropanol
> > > solutions to the skin.
> > >
> > > Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
> > > Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.
> > >
> > > This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more
> > >
> > > David K0LUM
> > >
> > > > On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John NI0K,
> > > > Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> > > > different products.
> > > > Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is
> > grain
> > > > alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> > > > Steve
> > > > WM6P
> > >
> > > __
> > > Elecraft mailing list
> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > >
> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> > > Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
> > __
> > Elecraft mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >
> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> > Message delivered to ldormis...@gmail.com
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Lee Ormiston
To add another thought to the medical doctor's good comments, when I was in
school studying chemistry, some of my slower friends studying less
rigorous subjects thought it would be a good idea to drink straight
Everclear.  They quickly and painfully learned the Everclear pulled water
from the tissues in their mouth which then blistered.  They reported it was
all very painful.
Lee
N0RRL

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 4:17 PM Paul Van Dyke 
wrote:

> Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my field
> = Perfume
> And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
> parts, Hic..and other things
> 73 ..needin a chair
> Paul KB9AVO
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ  wrote:
>
> > I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds of
> > alcohol
> >
> > Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very nature
> > so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a feedstock
> > for making other chemicals.
> >
> > Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear is
> > available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
> > “denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added to
> > gasoline.
> >
> > Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
> > alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
> > absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying isopropanol
> > solutions to the skin.
> >
> > Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
> > Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.
> >
> > This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more
> >
> > David K0LUM
> >
> > > On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > John NI0K,
> > > Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> > > different products.
> > > Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is
> grain
> > > alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> > > Steve
> > > WM6P
> >
> > __
> > Elecraft mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >
> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> > Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to ldormis...@gmail.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Randy Lake
Jerry, I'll be right over !

Randy N1KWF

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 8:21 PM jerry  wrote:

> On 2021-07-17 16:43, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> > Here, the XYL uses  cheap 80 proof Vodka to 'awake' vanilla bean
> > seeds.  She has a bunch of vanilla beans and when soaked in alcohol
> > for about 2 months (shaken every day), it makes vanilla extract.
> > She was doing commercial baking when she acquired the vanilla beans
> > because it was MUCH less expensive than purchasing vanilla extract
> > from the store.
> > When she quit baking, she had left over beans, so we have lots of
> > vanilla extract on hand.
> >
> Times change.  We have umpteen fruit trees.  Q.  What to do with 20
> gallons of plums?  A.  Make 20 gallons of plum wine.
> But we went on a diet.  Lots of calories in wine.  So now we
> have 15 gallons of plum wine in the shed.  And 5 gallons of grape wine
> in the garage.
>
>- Jerry KF6VB
>
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to randyn1...@gmail.com



-- 
Randy Lake N1KWF
73 Gunn Rd.
Keene,NH
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 


Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread jerry

On 2021-07-17 16:43, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Here, the XYL uses  cheap 80 proof Vodka to 'awake' vanilla bean
seeds.  She has a bunch of vanilla beans and when soaked in alcohol
for about 2 months (shaken every day), it makes vanilla extract.
She was doing commercial baking when she acquired the vanilla beans
because it was MUCH less expensive than purchasing vanilla extract
from the store.
When she quit baking, she had left over beans, so we have lots of
vanilla extract on hand.

Times change.  We have umpteen fruit trees.  Q.  What to do with 20 
gallons of plums?  A.  Make 20 gallons of plum wine.

But we went on a diet.  Lots of calories in wine.  So now we
have 15 gallons of plum wine in the shed.  And 5 gallons of grape wine 
in the garage.


  - Jerry KF6VB

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Here, the XYL uses  cheap 80 proof Vodka to 'awake' vanilla bean seeds.  
She has a bunch of vanilla beans and when soaked in alcohol for about 2 
months (shaken every day), it makes vanilla extract.
She was doing commercial baking when she acquired the vanilla beans 
because it was MUCH less expensive than purchasing vanilla extract from 
the store.
When she quit baking, she had left over beans, so we have lots of 
vanilla extract on hand.


OK, back to the subject at hand, I used to use 190 proof Everclear for 
cleaning boards - still applied only as necessary and with a q-tip in 
the area to be cleaned, blot with a paper towel.  But I can no longer 
get that strength in the local liquor store, they only sell 180 proof 
(don't want to travel to South Caroline just to get some).  So I use 
other sources of alcohol.  Whatever dissolves the flux buildup does the 
job.  If you are very careful, you can use acetone, but it will melt 
silkscreening and get under components if it gets to the top of the 
board - apply only with a q-tip in the area of concern on the bottom of 
the board.
I had one repair here where the customer used something for flux 
removal.  It got under ICs and relays and caused multiple leakage 
paths.  I was about to declare it non-repairable, but he was willing to 
pay the cost of lifting components and cleaning.


Remember that rosin flux is non-conductive until it is mixed with a 
"flux cleaner" - use only in a specific area (do not flood the board), 
and dry the area after application.  Make certain ALL the flux was 
removed from the area - if there is any residue, it can be conductive, 
leading to leakage paths.  Let it dry and look for 'whitish' stuff.  If 
there is any, you have not done a complete job.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2021 6:15 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:

Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my field
= Perfume
And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
parts, Hic..and other things
73 ..needin a chair
Paul KB9AVO

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ  wrote:


I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds of
alcohol

Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very nature
so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a feedstock
for making other chemicals.

Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear is
available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
“denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added to
gasoline.

Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying isopropanol
solutions to the skin.

Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.

This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more

David K0LUM


On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:

John NI0K,
Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
different products.
Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
Steve
WM6P

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to d...@w3fpr.com


__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Paul Van Dyke
Correct ... and the one your ladies know  SD-40  alcohol  used in my field
= Perfume
And a world favorite - Vodka, that was used to make perfume and clean
parts, Hic..and other things
73 ..needin a chair
Paul KB9AVO

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 3:49 PM David Christ  wrote:

> I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds of
> alcohol
>
> Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very nature
> so needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a feedstock
> for making other chemicals.
>
> Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear is
> available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used
> “denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added to
> gasoline.
>
> Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing
> alcohol. It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be
> absorbed through the skin so caution is advised when applying isopropanol
> solutions to the skin.
>
> Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow
> Heet contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.
>
> This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more
>
> David K0LUM
>
> > On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > John NI0K,
> > Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> > different products.
> > Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
> > alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> > Steve
> > WM6P
>
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread David Christ
I’ll try to introduce some accuracy here. There are three common kinds of 
alcohol

Methanol CH3OH also known as wood alcohol.  Poisonous by its very nature so 
needs no additives to make it undrinkable, Mainly used as a feedstock for 
making other chemicals.

Ethanol CH3CH2OH  This is the stuff in alcoholic beverages.  Everclear is 
available as 95% ethanol.  Because it is drinkable additives are used 
“denature” to make it undrinkable.  This is the alcohol commonly added to 
gasoline.

Isopropanol  CH3CHOHCH3  This is the alcohol normally found in rubbing alcohol. 
It is also used in hand sanitizer.  It is toxic and can be absorbed through the 
skin so caution is advised when applying isopropanol solutions to the skin.

Alcohol absorbs water so is used in “gasoline dryer” products.  Yellow Heet 
contains methanol.  Red Heet contains isopropanol.

This information courtesy of Wikipedia which contains much more

David K0LUM

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John NI0K,
> Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> different products.
> Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
> alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> Steve
> WM6P

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
Denatured alcohol is NOT wood alcohol.  Wood alcohol is METHANOL... it was
originally made by fermenting wood.  Denatured alcohol is ethanol (drinkable
alcohol) that has been purposely tainted/ spiked with a poison substance so
that it cannot be sold as drinkable alcohol.  Common denaturants are
methanol, gasoline, natural gasoline (pentane range hydrocarbons), etc. 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Steve Hall
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:41 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

John NI0K,
Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
different products.
Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.) Steve WM6P
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
delivered to b...@wjschmidt.com 


-- 
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 


Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread weave...@usermail.com
I hope your radio is at least 18, just to keep you out of trouble  :).

73,
Bill WE5P

Comfortably Numb

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 15:09, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> I had a glass of that stuff next to the radio, and when I came back 10 mins
> later
> 1/2 was gone and the radio was acting up and being strange.
> Hmm
> Paul KB9AVO
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 2:42 PM Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> John NI0K,
>> Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
>> different products.
>> Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
>> alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
>> Steve
>> WM6P
>> __
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> 
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
>> 
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to weave...@usermail.com 

__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com 

Re: [Elecraft] denatured alcohol vs. Everclear

2021-07-17 Thread Paul Van Dyke
I had a glass of that stuff next to the radio, and when I came back 10 mins
later
1/2 was gone and the radio was acting up and being strange.
Hmm
Paul KB9AVO

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 2:42 PM Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John NI0K,
> Keep in mind that denatured alcohol and Everclear are absolutely two
> different products.
> Denatured or wood alcohol is most poisonous.  Whereas Everclear is grain
> alcohol and can be consumed, (in moderation.)
> Steve
> WM6P
> __
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to pvandyke1...@gmail.com
>
__
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com