Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

2014-03-14 Thread AD6XY
I tend to agree Eric. I have not commented yet. We need to understand what
happened with the original message in this thread and more importantly how
to prevent it. Power cuts happen, for whatever reason and we can't have them
bricking the radio, whatever it happens to be doing at the time. I am sure
Elecraft have been working on it, probably late into the night.

For the record, I like my K3, it has excellent design and is one of the best
transceivers available to date. Much of this is due to firmware which has no
doubt grown to be a very complex system, with all that entails. I like
powerpoles, they work well and mine don't fall out. They easily handle 30A.
Crimps are best avoided unless done professionally so I always solder them.
They have revolutionised my station's configuration providing quick reliable
foolproof 12V interconnects.

Mike G0MJW




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[Elecraft] K2dsp muted

2014-03-14 Thread John Cooper
I pulled the firmare chip out put back in and it worked till I cycled the 
power.  Pulled it again but didn't fix it again.  Let you know what happens 
when I order a new firmware.
John WT5Y

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Re: [Elecraft] Battery voltage on KX3 seems high...

2014-03-14 Thread bill conkling
When the external power source is higher than internal batts, radio will use 
the external supply.  The internal batts are unused and will indicate open 
circuit voltage.  When external source is not used, internal batts have some 
load and voltage drop.

...bill nr4c

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Don Wilhelm  wrote:

>What is the current and voltage rating of the power supply that you have 
>connected to the KX3?  That is an important parameter to answer your 
>question.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 3/13/2014 10:49 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
>> I have some NiMH batteries installed in my KX3, and while it is plugged into 
>> a power supply or fully charged 12v battery the rechargeable batteries 
>> report a voltage of 10.8v.  If I remove external power the KX3 reports 
>> internal battery voltage at 10.2v.  Is the KX3 trickle-charging the internal 
>> batteries when external power is applied, and if so what is the trickle 
>> charge rate?
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread Stan Grigaliunas
I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
73
Stan - K8SRB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread Jorge Diez CX6VM
I use Ameritron ARI-500 With the ALS1300 for that.

I think you need the same for AL600

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

Enviado desde mi TELÉFONO 

> El 14/03/2014, a las 15:30, Stan Grigaliunas  
> escribió:
> 
> I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
> like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
> it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
> sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 73
> Stan - K8SRB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


ARI-500 works if your ALS-600 is the newer one with provision for
remote switching.  The original LPF board was not relay controllable.

You can also use the W9XT BCD-10 and source driver boards if you're
willing to do a little packaging work.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/14/2014 2:50 PM, Jorge Diez CX6VM wrote:

I use Ameritron ARI-500 With the ALS1300 for that.

I think you need the same for AL600

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

Enviado desde mi TELÉFONO


El 14/03/2014, a las 15:30, Stan Grigaliunas  
escribió:

I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
73
Stan - K8SRB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread MontyS
I have an article approved for publishing in QST that shows how to add 
automatic relay switching to the AL600.  12 relays and a band decoder that 
provides a ground for each selected band are required.

Monty K2DLJ


ARI-500 works if your ALS-600 is the newer one with provision for
remote switching.  The original LPF board was not relay controllable.

You can also use the W9XT BCD-10 and source driver boards if you're
willing to do a little packaging work.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/14/2014 2:50 PM, Jorge Diez CX6VM wrote:

I use Ameritron ARI-500 With the ALS1300 for that.

I think you need the same for AL600

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

Enviado desde mi TELÉFONO

El 14/03/2014, a las 15:30, Stan Grigaliunas  
escribió:


I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
73
Stan - K8SRB

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Re: [Elecraft] Molex comment

2014-03-14 Thread John Buck
When someone has an intermittent power issue and their rig uses Molex, I 
check there first.  I usually find the socket pin spread and making poor 
contact. I can fix it for a while by using a small tube to help compress 
the socket pin to proper size.


I have no such problem with Power Poles.
I change Molex to Power Poles if I can and if the extra Molex pins are 
not in use.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QSL 3 Ring Binder

2014-03-14 Thread Jessie Oberreuter, kb7psg


 I've become extremely fond of the Rollabind / Circa (Levenger) / Arc 
(Staples) systems.  The only real investment is the punch; the discs 
themselves are cheap, and you can either buy nice binders or make your 
own.  Traditional three-ring binder components can be used just by 
re-punching them for use with the discs.  The Levenger lever punch is a 
bit spendy, but it'll punch through cardboard, so you can make binders for 
any size/shape you like.



On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Brian Linn wrote:


After much time searching the web, I've been unable to locate a 3 ring
binder to hold full size certificate sleeves, which are too wide for the
standard 8.5 x 11 binder.



Any suggestions will be very much appreciated. Feel free to e-mail direct,
off list . I've no desire to create clutter on this list . just looking for
an answer.



73 Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Miscellaneous Accessory Board Project

2014-03-14 Thread Dave KW4M
Some minor changes have been made to the project manual, mostly in the parts
procurement section as related to the J1 connector.

For those persons who decide to build one, please make note any problems,
points of confusion, potential improvements, etc. and provide them to me via
email.  I intend to revise the manual and/or design on occasion based on
such inputs.

It is always a good idea to download the latest files prior to building so
you have the most up-to-date information.




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Re: [Elecraft] Battery voltage on KX3 seems high...

2014-03-14 Thread Mark Petiford
Andrew,Phil hit the nail on the head.  When you have the power supply attached 
(or an external battery with a voltage greater than the internal battery 
voltage), the KX3 Battery Voltage displays the UNLOADED voltage of the internal 
NiMH cells.  When you remove that external power, the internal battery powers 
the KX3, so the KX3 Battery Voltage displays the LOADED voltage of the internal 
NiMH cells.  The difference between the loaded and unloaded voltage is 
primarily due to the internal resistance of the NiMH cells.  The LOADED voltage 
reading will vary depending on what the load current is.  If you see 10.2V 
during receive, and you key the rig with few watts of output, you will see that 
loaded voltage drop a bit farther due to the added current draw.  That is the 
effect that internal battery (cell) resistance has.The internal resistance of 
the cells has a good effect, too.  It is partially responsible for the self 
leveling effect (the tendency for
 a group of cells in series to end up at the same voltage after charging) that 
is inherent in NiMH cells.The KXBC3 is strictly a constant current charger.  
You turn it on for a length of time, and it tries to keep the current at a 
constant of about 10% the capacity of the cells...about 200ma in the case of 
the KXBC3.  I don't believe there is a trickle charger as a design feature in 
the KXBC3; however, there appears to be a very small reverse current leakage 
that may tend to reduce the effects of the self discharge properties of the 
cells.  It is probably small (a few microamps?) in relation to that, but my LSD 
(Low Self Discharge) Eneloop 2000's seem to stay charged longer if I keep the 
radio hooked up to a 13.8v supply.  I haven't quantified this yet. The self 
discharge rate is so low with these cells that it is difficult to tell.  As Don 
pointed out, it may depend on the source voltage, so there is another variable 
thrown in.MarkKE6BB

Hope this e-mail works out.  I did it on a Yahoo Win 8 mail app that sometimes 
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[Elecraft] GaFET Preamp for XV144 transverter

2014-03-14 Thread Edward R Cole

Ed:

Here are a few relevant numbers:
XV144:  NF = 0.8 dB
SP144VDG:  NF=0.55 dB, gain=24 dB, 25w max rating
Coax Loss for 25-feet:
RG-58= 1.25 dB
RG-213= 0.55 dB
LMR400= 0.38

With SP144VDG at antenna:
system NF=0.61 dB using 25 feet of RG-58
system NF=0.60 dB using 25 feet of LMR-400
so it doesn't matter what coax you run

Assuming sky temp of 250K at 2m (probably the best one will see 
somewhere out in the desert)

receiver sensitivity for SSB is in the range of -138 dBm, which is excellent.

For urban noise levels sky temp of 500K, receiver sensitivity is -136 dBm
-
with SP144VDG at XV144 and 25 foot of coax to antenna:
system NF= 0.93 dB using 25 foot of LMR-400
system NF= 1.10 dB using 25 foot of RG-213
system NF= 1.80 dB using 25 foot of RG-58
coax makes a big difference in NF.

sky temp=250K:  sensitivity = -138.4 dBm with LMR-400 and 
sensitivity= -137.6 dBm with RG-58
sky temp=500K:  sensitivity = -136.4dBm with LMR-400 and sensitivity= 
-135.9 dBm with RG-58


I looked up in QRZ.com and Trinidad, CA looks pretty rural so maybe 
you can use the lower sky temperature figure for estimating performance.


So what does this tells us:
Preamp at antenna is best (we knew that) and one can run cheap coax 
(without degrading NF and sensitivity).


If you keep preamp in the shack then you want to use good low loss 
coax for best performance.


Considering that you may not have a lot of stations nearby and making 
long-distance contacts involving weak signals, I would put the preamp 
at the antenna.  The SP144VDG is self-switching with RF sensing so 
only 12v need be provided.  This is a very simple setup so why not 
install it at the antenna?


I will say that I normally use external coax relays with plain 
preamps, but I have installed on a 2m yagi a RF sensed ARR preamp for 
simplicity for use with a FM 2m radio.  It works very nicely with 
stations 70+ miles away running FM simplex.  It is "almost" as 
sensitive as my my four-yagi eme array+ preamps ( but not quite).  I 
run 80 foot of LMR-400 from the preamp to the radio.


One sidenote: 25w is not very much power to operate long distance on 
2m.  I typically run 120-150w.


73, Ed - KL7UW

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To: 
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I have recently finished aligned and tested an Elecraft XV144 
Transverter.  I have an Advanced Receiver Research SP144VDG GasFet 2 
meter preamplifier.  Its specs are as follows:


Noise Figure  < 0,55 dB
Gain 24 dB
Compression +12 dBm
Transceiver Power  <25 watts

Should I use my preamplifier between my Isopole 144 MHz vertical 
antenna and my XV144 transverter antenna connector?  I will have 
about 25 feet of coaxial cable between the preamplifier mounted on 
the antenna and the XV144 transverter.


I will appreciate any comments or suggestions

Ed Wright
AA6LZ


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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[Elecraft] K3, Microham MK2R+, Rear Phone Jack = Hum

2014-03-14 Thread Richard Thorne

Hello Group,

I just installed a Microham MK2R+ SO2R box, I connected the HP Audio 
input of the MK2R+ to the 'rear' phone jack of the K3.


Lot's of hum on the receive audio and distortion on my monitored ssb 
transmissions.


When I unplugged the cable from the rear phone jack on the K3 and 
plugged it into the front panel phone jack, the hum goes away.


Any ideas why the front panel phone jack works without hum but the rear 
phone jack has hum?


I was hoping the rear jack would work as then I would have a totally 
uncluttered front panel on the K3, all the cables would be plugged in 
the rear.


Any ideas?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3, Microham MK2R+, Rear Phone Jack = Hum

2014-03-14 Thread Don Wilhelm

Rich,

Check your cables.  That sounds like an open shield somewhere in your 
cabling.
Do you have a very early K3?  Those had inductors in series with the 
ground path that should have been bypassed.  If you do have those 
inductors, they could introduce hum.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/14/2014 8:39 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:

Hello Group,

I just installed a Microham MK2R+ SO2R box, I connected the HP Audio 
input of the MK2R+ to the 'rear' phone jack of the K3.


Lot's of hum on the receive audio and distortion on my monitored ssb 
transmissions.


When I unplugged the cable from the rear phone jack on the K3 and 
plugged it into the front panel phone jack, the hum goes away.


Any ideas why the front panel phone jack works without hum but the 
rear phone jack has hum?


I was hoping the rear jack would work as then I would have a totally 
uncluttered front panel on the K3, all the cables would be plugged in 
the rear.


Any ideas?



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[Elecraft] KPA-500 Question

2014-03-14 Thread Gary Mohrlant
I'm assembling a KPA-500 that I received today and I'm at the step where 
I mount the Rectifier bd to the Z-bracket. It looks like the 4 holes for 
mounting the rectifiers should be threaded for 4-40 screws but mine has 
about 1/8" holes. There is no mention of using a screw and nut to mount 
them and there is none provided. I wonder if anyone else has run into 
this problem



Gary  W0GHZ
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Question

2014-03-14 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gary,

Try to put a 4-40 screw into the holes.  If it goes through, it is a 1/8 
inch hole (clearance for 4-40 screws), but if it must be threaded in, 
all is well.  A threaded hole for 4-40 will look almost like a 1/8 inch 
hole.

Yes, the holes should be threaded for 4-40.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/14/2014 9:44 PM, Gary Mohrlant wrote:
I'm assembling a KPA-500 that I received today and I'm at the step 
where I mount the Rectifier bd to the Z-bracket. It looks like the 4 
holes for mounting the rectifiers should be threaded for 4-40 screws 
but mine has about 1/8" holes. There is no mention of using a screw 
and nut to mount them and there is none provided. I wonder if anyone 
else has run into this problem




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread Brian Denley


Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 14, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Stan Grigaliunas  
> wrote:
> 
> I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
> like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
> it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
> sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 73
> Stan - K8SRB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and AL600 hook up.

2014-03-14 Thread Brian Denley
Stan:
Use the ARI-500.  This guy builds specific custom cables for your setup:
http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=13270308
I just ordered one for my FT-950 and ALS-500 / ARI-500.
Brian KB1VBF

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 14, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Stan Grigaliunas  
> wrote:
> 
> I have my K3 hooked up to the AL600 and it works great.  Now I would
> like to add the auto band switching.  Has anyone done this and how does
> it work out?  Did you home brew the cables or is there a supplier that
> sells them?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 73
> Stan - K8SRB
> 
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[Elecraft] KX3 to HyPower HL-45B cable

2014-03-14 Thread Doug Person
I discovered that I have a small quantity of proper mini-din connectors 
to fit the HL-45B.  If anyone needs one, contact me off list.  I can 
also make up a complete interface cable for the KX3 to the HL45B if 
someone is in need of something pre-built.  Drop me a line if you need one.


Doug -- K0DXV

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