Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Sorry, Marcin, Since your answer came in the other thread, I didn’t realize that three have answered my questions. Thank you for your Manual and Lisp book tip. I’ll try to work through all of them. Another thousands of pages … "Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh." --Ecclesiastes 12,12 ESV Best, Birnle > Am 13.6.2017 um 05:26 h schrieb Marcin Borkowski : > > > On 2017-06-13, at 03:24, Birnle wrote: > >> Yes, John, you are surely right. From the beginning I use the Prelude >> Emacs distribution (http://batsov.com/prelude/) that comes with >> a bunch of preinstalled packages, so I don’t know yet what is original >> Emacs/Org and what is optional. So much to learn, so little time. >> >> Even for a text editing professional like me (publishing manager, >> foreign language typesetter, book producer, copy editor) Emacs is like >> an almost undiscovered parallel universe. I try boldly to go where >> just a few men have gone before … >> >> So thank you all, group, for being patient with an Emacs novice like me. > > I started (almost two decades ago...) with a vanilla Emacs. (There was > nothing like "Prelude" back then, I guess. Also, I had no internet > access (at home) until, like, ten years later...) > > Also, being a student, I had much free time then. I read most of the > Emacs manual. That helped _a lot_. > > BTW, Emacs absolutely rocks for copyediting (which I also happen to do), > since you can define lots of little commands to ease the repetitive > tasks. And yes, you probably do need to learn Lisp to master Emacs. > Start with "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" by Robert > J. Chassell (evaluate the form (info "eintr")). > > Best, > > -- > Marcin Borkowski >
Re: [O] Best book to get from novice to guru?
Dear group, To sum up the two (!) answers on these foundational # questions: 1. Which is the best book to get from Emacs/Org novice to guru? 2. Do I have to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs? # Answers: 1. All of the mentioned books are good; read the manuals that come with Emacs and Org mode; "Mastering Emacs" is a good tips book, but no manual replacement. 2. Yes. Thank you, Nikolay and Eric! Best, Birnle > Am 13.6.2017 um 04:00 h schrieb Birnle : > > Dear group, > > Since I like to know my daily used software „by heart“ and I really don’t > want to ask too many silly questions, here’s another: > > Which book (or books) do I have to read / work through to get from Emacs/Org > novice to (almost) guru? Which is/are the best in your opinion? > > I’ve seen that there is > > • the GNU Emacs Manual from Richard Stallman > • The Org Mode 7 Reference Manual from Carsten Dominik and others > • Mastering Emacs from Mickey Petersen (www.masteringemacs.org) > Are there more? Which one is obligatory? And I know the sites > > • www.emacswiki.org > • orgmode.org > and some others. All the good information is out there, but where is it > bundled in one (or two or three) book(s)? > > And is it necessary to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs? > > Best, > Birnle
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Thank you, Marcin, In fact, rectangle deletion doesn’t work since the text has over 700 header lines that are not indented. But replace-regexp works. Best, Birnle On 13 Jun 2017, at 5:21, Marcin Borkowski wrote: On 2017-06-12, at 23:42, Birnle wrote: Thank you, John, for your answer. And no, it’s much too early for me to be sure … But C-c n does actually indent each (first) line with whitespace according to the number of asterisks in the heading. The easiest and fastest solution is in fact deleting the leading whitespace in every line by replace-regexp (replace ^ + by nothing). The easiest and fastest solution is probably to use delete-rectangle (or rectangle-mark-mode and then DEL). Hth, -- Marcin Borkowski
[O] Best book to get from novice to guru?
Dear group, Since I like to know my daily used software „by heart“ and I really don’t want to ask too many silly questions, here’s another: Which book (or books) do I have to read / work through to get from Emacs/Org novice to (almost) guru? Which is/are the best in your opinion? I’ve seen that there is - the *GNU Emacs Manual* from Richard Stallman - *The Org Mode 7 Reference Manual* from Carsten Dominik and others - *Mastering Emacs* from Mickey Petersen (www.masteringemacs.org) Are there more? Which one is obligatory? And I know the sites - www.emacswiki.org - orgmode.org and some others. All the good information is out there, but where is it bundled in one (or two or three) book(s)? And is it necessary to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs? Best, Birnle
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Yes, John, you are surely right. From the beginning I use the Prelude Emacs distribution (http://batsov.com/prelude/) that comes with a bunch of preinstalled packages, so I don’t know yet what is original Emacs/Org and what is optional. So much to learn, so little time. Even for a text editing professional like me (publishing manager, foreign language typesetter, book producer, copy editor) Emacs is like an almost undiscovered parallel universe. I try boldly to go where just a few men have gone before … So thank you all, group, for being patient with an Emacs novice like me. Best, Birnle On 13 Jun 2017, at 1:13, John Kitchin wrote: The C-c n binding is not defined in org-mode though as far as I know. That suggests it is something outside of org-mode doing that. John --- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Birnle wrote: Thank you, John, for your answer. And no, it’s much too early for me to be sure … But C-c n does actually indent each (first) line with whitespace according to the number of asterisks in the heading. The easiest and fastest solution is in fact deleting the leading whitespace in every line by replace-regexp (replace ^ + by nothing). On 12 Jun 2017, at 18:57, John Kitchin wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Birnle wrote: crux-cleanup-buffer-or-region if that command is what does it, then it is happening outside of org-mode. I guess it is a command from here: https://github.com/bbatsov/crux and that it is in a hook function somewhere. However, I am skeptical this command is what is doing it, because I also see this happen occasionally. Are you sure it isn't because of org-indent-mode? John --- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 <(412)%20268-7803> @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Yes, John, thank you! Sometimes it is so easy … if you know it. Great. Now I can export to Markdown and ODT directly. On 12 Jun 2017, at 19:15, John Ankarström wrote: Birnle writes: But I’ve read that it is possible to directly export to Markdown – that is the format I usually work with. By exporting an Org mode file these unnecessary spaces should be erased. I just have to figure out how to export to Markdown from Org mode … Do you know a good online How-to? Exporting to Markdown is built into Org-mode, accessible from the C-c C-e export menu, but might not be enabled by default. To enable it, customize `org-export-backends' (M-x customize RET org-export-backends RET) and enable export to Markdown format (`md'). Then you can press C-c C-e m m to export the Org document to a .md file. - John
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Thank you, John, for your answer. And no, it’s much too early for me to be sure … But C-c n does actually indent each (first) line with whitespace according to the number of asterisks in the heading. The easiest and fastest solution is in fact deleting the leading whitespace in every line by replace-regexp (replace ^ + by nothing). On 12 Jun 2017, at 18:57, John Kitchin wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Birnle wrote: crux-cleanup-buffer-or-region if that command is what does it, then it is happening outside of org-mode. I guess it is a command from here: https://github.com/bbatsov/crux and that it is in a hook function somewhere. However, I am skeptical this command is what is doing it, because I also see this happen occasionally. Are you sure it isn't because of org-indent-mode? John --- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Yes, Eric, thank you again. This is what I knew, I can do it with regexp. I just thought there would be a simple command that could undo the "cleanup". But I’ve read that it is possible to directly export to Markdown – that is the format I usually work with. By exporting an Org mode file these unnecessary spaces should be erased. I just have to figure out how to export to Markdown from Org mode … Do you know a good online How-to? > Am 12.6.2017 um 18:01 h schrieb Eric S Fraga : > > On Monday, 12 Jun 2017 at 15:49, Birnle wrote: >> Is there no command to "unclean" the file again? > > Difficulty is defining what "unclean" means. For instance, if it is > simply removing spaces at the start of a line, you could use > > ,[ C-h f replace-regexp RET ] > | replace-regexp is an interactive compiled Lisp function in > | ‘replace.el’. > | > | (replace-regexp REGEXP TO-STRING &optional DELIMITED START END > | BACKWARD) > | > | This function is for interactive use only; > | [...] > ` > > and replace "^ +" with "" (no quotes typed). But this would apply to > all lines. If you can come up with a regexp for "unclean" lines then > this could work. > > HTH, > eric > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 26.0.50, Org release_9.0.7-531-g530113
Re: [O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Yes, Eric, thank you, that is a good idea. Now I've found that it is more a feature than a failure – org mode thinks of it as "cleaning up", and it does it automagically together with some commands. There is even a special command for it: C-c n (crux-cleanup-buffer-or-region). But I cannot find the command to "unclean" the text so that I get again what I've typed – without the whitespace before each (first) line. The reason that I want the text as I type it (without leading whitespace) in is that I want to copy/paste it into other apps, where it is wrong to have the whitespace at the beginning of the line, so I have to erase it by hand (or regexp search/replace). Is there no command to "unclean" the file again? On 11 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Eric S Fraga wrote: > […] if you want to see what you did when the > "suddenly" bit happens, try typing "C-h l" (Control and H key > simultaneously and then lower case l) to see all the most recent > keystrokes you have made and how they have been interpreted by > emacs. This may point to an offending command you are invoking without > being aware.
[O] How to get rid of first line indent?
Dear group, How do I get rid of the (first) line indent in org mode? I type some text (book length) in: * Some heading text Here is some text in one line in visual mode that wraps nicely and looks like it should. ** Another header And some more text in just one line in visual mode that wraps as it should. Then I do something – I don’t know what it is, but suddenly the first line of the same text is indented to the level of the header by white space: * Some heading text Here is some text in one line in visual mode that wraps nicely and looks like it should. ** Another header And some more text in just one line in visual mode that wraps as it should. I’ve searched for hours but couldn’t find a solution. As a totally new Emacs and org (and evil) mode user I don’t know what to do. Please help! Best, Birnle
