[O] workaround for inability to close outline section w/out starting a new one?

2012-02-06 Thread Sam Cramer
I love orgmode, but the inability to close an outline section without
starting a new one makes it tough for me to structure some documents the
way I'd like.

The FAQ suggests several workarounds; one is

You can create a temporary heading, such as ** Continue main section and
 then remove it when you are ready to export.


This works, but is quite cumbersome.

Is it possible to build on this workaround with a mechanism which tags a
temporary heading as special, so that it
1) does not get exported, 2) does not appear in the TOC, 3) does not
contribute to section numbering and 4)  is displayed in a special face in
the Emacs buffer to indicate that it is a temporary heading?

Such an approach would go a long way towards making the temporary heading
workaround a bit more practical.

Thanks,
Sam


Re: [Orgmode] not exporting TODOs but exporting their subordinates

2010-09-08 Thread Sam Cramer
Thanks for your response!

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:23 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone *might* be able to give you a workaround, but the way org-mode
 works as far as I can see is that export rules always apply to the children
 of a higher-level headline. As such, the subitems of the non-exported TODO
 are taken to be notes or things related to the TODO, and since you don't
 want the TODO exported it would seem that you don't want the items related
 to the TODO exported either.

 Maybe if you explain a situation where you'd not want the actual TODO
 exported but still want items under it exported, someone could help you with
 a workaround or alternative suggestion?


The situation is one that arguably results from a lack of discipline on my
part (hence my interest in org-mode!): I add TODO items to documents I'm
writing without much regard as to how they fit into the overall structure of
the file.  In other words, my TODOs are generally one-liners which are
sprinkled with abandon throughout the file.

Perhaps as I get more familiar with org-mode I will use TODOs in a more
structured way, but right now they are not a structured list of tasks but
rather a bunch of reminders distributed through a document.

Does that make things clearer?

Sam





 John

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Sam Cramer samcra...@gmail.com wrote:

 When working on a document, I tend to sprinkle TODO headlines throughout
 the doc.  These are really very loosely structured; they just represent
 things that I need to do somewhat near the area that I'm looking at.

 I mark these lines with a :noexport: tag in order to prevent them from
 being exported.  As such, they're not part of the document structure per-se,
 and I often mark them as top level headlines.  Since EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS
 applies to a tree and not to a title, this prevents the export of any
 subordinate items.

 Here's an example:

 * An amazing headline
 ** stuff
 ** more stuff
 * TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
 ** this is stuff that I would like exported


 In the example above, I'd like to have the everything but the TODO
 headline exported, including the this is stuff I would like exported line.

 I guess that I could always have my TODO lines be at a very deep level.
  Is there any other solution I should consider?

 Thanks,
 Sam




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[Orgmode] Re: not exporting TODOs but exporting their subordinates

2010-09-08 Thread Sam Cramer
Ah, org-inlinetask.el, correct? Looks great -- thanks for the advice!

Sam

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.dewrote:

 Sam Cramer samcra...@gmail.com writes:
  When working on a document, I tend to sprinkle TODO headlines throughout
 the
  doc.  These are really very loosely structured; they just represent
 things
  that I need to do somewhat near the area that I'm looking at.
 
  I mark these lines with a :noexport: tag in order to prevent them from
 being
  exported.  As such, they're not part of the document structure per-se,
 and I
  often mark them as top level headlines.  Since EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS
 applies
  to a tree and not to a title, this prevents the export of any subordinate
  items.
 
  Here's an example:
 
  * An amazing headline
  ** stuff
  ** more stuff
  * TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
  ** this is stuff that I would like exported
 
 
  In the example above, I'd like to have the everything but the TODO
 headline
  exported, including the this is stuff I would like exported line.
 
  I guess that I could always have my TODO lines be at a very deep level.
  Is
  there any other solution I should consider?
 
  Thanks,
  Sam

 Here's my proposal:


  * An amazing headline
  ** stuff
  ** more stuff
  *** TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
  ** this is stuff that I would like exported

 Or just use inline tasks.  They are made for this purpose.


  Sebastian

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Re: [Orgmode] not exporting TODOs but exporting their subordinates

2010-09-08 Thread Sam Cramer
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Sam Cramer samcra...@gmail.com wrote:


 The situation is one that arguably results from a lack of discipline on my
 part (hence my interest in org-mode!): I add TODO items to documents I'm
 writing without much regard as to how they fit into the overall structure of
 the file.  In other words, my TODOs are generally one-liners which are
 sprinkled with abandon throughout the file.

 Perhaps as I get more familiar with org-mode I will use TODOs in a more
 structured way, but right now they are not a structured list of tasks but
 rather a bunch of reminders distributed through a document.

 Does that make things clearer?


 It does make things clearer. Perhaps, then, the best solution is to just
 make sure your TODOs have no children, then? Or use the other suggestion for
 inline TODOs?

 In your example, for example, wouldn't this work?

 
 * An amazing headline
 ** stuff
 ** more stuff
 ** TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
 ** this is stuff that I would like exported
 

 The TODO was directed at the stuff above anyway, so it perhaps doesn't need
 to be it's own main headline? The above works perfectly on export for me.


Yes, that works too.  The only caveat is that if I later add a subordinate
item to more stuff under the TODO, it won't export.  Org-inlinetask.el or
simply making the TODOs deeply nested without the help of org-inlinetask
should solve that problem.

Thanks again for the help!

Sam



 John


 Sam





 John

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Sam Cramer samcra...@gmail.com wrote:

 When working on a document, I tend to sprinkle TODO headlines throughout
 the doc.  These are really very loosely structured; they just represent
 things that I need to do somewhat near the area that I'm looking at.

 I mark these lines with a :noexport: tag in order to prevent them from
 being exported.  As such, they're not part of the document structure 
 per-se,
 and I often mark them as top level headlines.  Since EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS
 applies to a tree and not to a title, this prevents the export of any
 subordinate items.

 Here's an example:

 * An amazing headline
 ** stuff
 ** more stuff
 * TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
 ** this is stuff that I would like exported


 In the example above, I'd like to have the everything but the TODO
 headline exported, including the this is stuff I would like exported 
 line.

 I guess that I could always have my TODO lines be at a very deep level.
  Is there any other solution I should consider?

 Thanks,
 Sam




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[Orgmode] not exporting TODOs but exporting their subordinates

2010-09-07 Thread Sam Cramer
When working on a document, I tend to sprinkle TODO headlines throughout the
doc.  These are really very loosely structured; they just represent things
that I need to do somewhat near the area that I'm looking at.

I mark these lines with a :noexport: tag in order to prevent them from being
exported.  As such, they're not part of the document structure per-se, and I
often mark them as top level headlines.  Since EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS applies
to a tree and not to a title, this prevents the export of any subordinate
items.

Here's an example:

* An amazing headline
** stuff
** more stuff
* TODO clean up the stuff above :noexport:
** this is stuff that I would like exported


In the example above, I'd like to have the everything but the TODO headline
exported, including the this is stuff I would like exported line.

I guess that I could always have my TODO lines be at a very deep level.  Is
there any other solution I should consider?

Thanks,
Sam
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[Orgmode] TODO list in new buffer?

2010-01-05 Thread Sam Cramer
I'm a new org-mode user.  It's a really nice piece of work, and I'm having a
good time using it to organize a bunch of work-related tasks!

I can't figure out how to create a list of all the TODO items in an org file
in a new buffer.  I'd like to have the TODO list in one buffer and the org
file in another, so I can refer to the TODO list while editing the org file.
 I looked through the manual and didn't see a way to do this, though it's
possible that I overlooked a relevant section.

Thanks,
Sam
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