[O] Import efforts
Dear all, I'm looking for an easy way to incorporate efforts from other, non-org users into an org file. Assume you do project accounting using org. Recording and displaying the efforts /you/ have spent on the different items is no problem thanks to the clocking mechanism. However, I'd like to incorporate efforts that have been spent on delegated tasks, as well. Co-workers not using org can usually give me something like `It took me n hours to complete task x on day y' or `I've spent n hours between day y and z on task x' (unless they use a time-tracking tool with export function, but that's a different story). Is there a better solution to import this kind of data than to create `fake' logbook entries, may it be manually or with help of functions? Ulf
[O] [PATCH] Incorrect HTML entity for `degree'
The degree symbol (`deg') has an incorrect HTML entity in org-entities.el.
Ulf
diff --git a/lisp/org-entities.el b/lisp/org-entities.el
index 609173a..c6ace61 100644
--- a/lisp/org-entities.el
+++ b/lisp/org-entities.el
@@ -304,7 +304,7 @@ loaded, add these packages to `org-export-latex-packages-alist'.
(prod \\prod t prod; [product] [n-ary product] ∏)
(micro \\textmu{} nil micro; micro µ µ)
(macr \\textasciimacron{} nil macr; [macron] ¯ ¯)
-(deg \\textdegree{} nil deg degree ° °)
+(deg \\textdegree{} nil deg; degree ° °)
(prime \\prime t prime; ' ' ′)
(Prime \\prime{}\\prime t Prime; '' '' ″)
(infin \\propto t infin; [infinity] [infinity] ∞)
Re: [O] org-capture in message-mode buffer
Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-05-04 21:14 +0800, Ulf Stegemann wrote: The idea behind `org-store-link' (which is triggered by `org-capture') in message mode is to store a link to a /sent/ message even though the message has not been sent by the time you call `org-store-link'. This currently works only with Gnus and only if there's a Gcc header present in the message you are working on. `org-gnus-store-link' needs the Gcc header to determine where the message would go once it has been sent (in order to create a link to it). The error you've encountered means that there hasn't been a Gcc header in your message when you've called `org-capture'. I think org-gnus-store-link is too aggressive. Hmmm, is it? Suppose that linking to a message yet to be archived wouldn't be there, then `org-store-link' will tell you `org-store-link: Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file' when called in a message buffer (like in any other non-file buffer). I also dislike the fact that it inserts the Message-Id header. As the org link to Gnus messages consists of the group and the message id the latter one is need (as is the first one, the Gcc header). No reliable message id, no org link. One may argue if it's a good idea to generate the message id when calling `org-store-link' but I think it's a fair tradeoff to accept this in order to get the link to the message yet to be archived. Also, the stored link may be useless unless it is referenced in the template chosen by the user. Hmmm, I'm not quite sure what your scenario is here. If you dislike the behaviour of `org-store-link' in message mode and furthermore do not want to store a link at all since your template does not use it, why do you call `org-capture' from the message mode buffer at all? Ulf
Re: [O] org-capture in message-mode buffer
Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-05-05 15:02 +0800, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Hmmm, is it? Suppose that linking to a message yet to be archived wouldn't be there, then `org-store-link' will tell you `org-store-link: Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file' when called in a message buffer (like in any other non-file buffer). When I call org-capture in any buffer not visiting any file except in message mode, I don't get any error. I see. That seems to be the very real problem, no? I also dislike the fact that it inserts the Message-Id header. As the org link to Gnus messages consists of the group and the message id the latter one is need (as is the first one, the Gcc header). No reliable message id, no org link. One may argue if it's a good idea to generate the message id when calling `org-store-link' but I think it's a fair tradeoff to accept this in order to get the link to the message yet to be archived. If that depends on the Gcc header being available, it should check it and do nothing when users does not use one. We are really talking about `org-gnus-store-link' here. The whole purpose of that function is to create an org link. I do not agree that this function should silently do nothing when there's no Gcc header present. If the function fails to do what it is meant to do, it should throw an error. Another story is if `org-capture' should fail only because `org-gnus-store-link' (which it called) fails. There are pros and cons. I agree that it may be annoying to not be able to org-capture something from within a message buffer. OTOH, there may be scenarios where an error message is helpful because you otherwise would think you've created a link with your capture but in fact haven't. Also, the stored link may be useless unless it is referenced in the template chosen by the user. Hmmm, I'm not quite sure what your scenario is here. If you dislike the behaviour of `org-store-link' in message mode and furthermore do not want to store a link at all since your template does not use it, why do you call `org-capture' from the message mode buffer at all? That seems like a very strange question. The only reason to have a global keybinding to org-capture is so that one can invoke it anywhere anytime. For example, while composing a new mail I might have a great idea I want to add to my Notes but I don't care where I invoke org-capture as illustrated by the template I use: (n Notes entry (file Notes.org) * %?\n %i :prepend t) Okay, I see. This does not address the real problem but as a workaround you could have something like --8--cut herestart8--- emacsclient -e '(org-capture nil n)' --8--cut here-end-8--- and bind it to a window manager shortcut. This will allow you to take a note even when you're not in emacs ... and of course also when in emacs/message mode. BTW, the reason I have stopped using Gcc (long ago) is that I have gmail to do archiving for me. It is accessible anytime anywhere and not tied to a specific machine. This sounds interesting (at least for those that use gmail). Is the URL where the archived message will be available predictable, i.e. is it possible to know it while still composing the message? If yes, it would be great to expand `org-gnus-store-link' to either use a Gnus archive group (Gcc) or a gmail one. Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-05-05 15:59 +0800, Leo wrote: I believe the following patch is due. Think about it some more, there is a reason to signal an error when calling org-store-link interactively but it should not when invoked by org-capture. Otherwise it will get in the way. I tend to agree but am not completely sure (s.a.). Ulf
Re: [O] org-capture in message-mode buffer
Leo sdl@gmail.com wrote: I am running orgmode from git 2011-04-29 on Emacs 23.3.50. In a message mode buffer, M-x org-capture to get the following error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Can not create link: No Gcc header found.) signal(error (Can not create link: No Gcc header found.)) error(Can not create link: No Gcc header found.) org-gnus-store-link() run-hook-with-args-until-success(org-gnus-store-link) org-store-link(nil) org-capture(nil) call-interactively(org-capture nil nil) The idea behind `org-store-link' (which is triggered by `org-capture') in message mode is to store a link to a /sent/ message even though the message has not been sent by the time you call `org-store-link'. This currently works only with Gnus and only if there's a Gcc header present in the message you are working on. `org-gnus-store-link' needs the Gcc header to determine where the message would go once it has been sent (in order to create a link to it). The error you've encountered means that there hasn't been a Gcc header in your message when you've called `org-capture'. Ulf
[O] Re: org-src-fontify-natively makes things very, very slow
Hi Sébastien, Eric, I'm experiencing the same performance problems with recent org-mode. My observations are ... Sébastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com wrote: Eric S Fraga wrote: From these timings, the font locking doesn't seem to be the issue but maybe the overlays are. However, commenting out the code that Sébastien Vauban indicated: Maybe this is (partly?) due to the overlay I added: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (overlay-put (make-overlay beg1 block-end) 'face 'org-block-background)) #+end_src See http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/581/ for a full diff. You can see I only add *one* overlay: for the background face. (well, commenting out the whole condition that includes this code) makes no difference at all. That's true. It does not make any difference performance-wise. So, I turned off =org-src-fontify-natively= and things are back to normal: next-line is as fast as previous-line. I can put up without the fontification so this is what I am doing now. It's true that setting `org-src-fontify-natively' to nil boosts performance but it's only half the story. Editing something inside blocks also has a significant negative influence on display performance. Removing things like `#+BEGIN_letter' / `#+END_letter' from the file gets things back to normal for me. Ulf
Re: [O] Re: customising org-latex-to-pdf-process for bibtex
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1.3.2011, at 18:26, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Does Org-mode use the wasysym package for its integral symbols? If
not, potential clashes with the amsmath package could be avoided by
loading it with the nointegrals option:
\loadpackage[nointegrals]{wasysym}. This is a fairly standard way to
load wasysym (which I should have recalled for Suvayu's recent
problem, thanks Eric for remembering).
Sounds good to me, but this is a question to Ulf Stegemann who
implemented many special characters in Org and who likely has an
opinion on this.
AFAIR, wasysym was introduced because of the smileys it provides. As
none of wasysym's integrals symbols is used by org-entities it's
okay to load the package with the `nointegrals' option.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Store link in message mode
Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: If you think --despite of those issues-- it's worth adding the creation of gnus links while in message mode I could provide a patch. FWIW, I think it would be useful. I'd probably add the functionality to `org-gnus-store-link' but I'm not an org code expert and a different location may be more appropriate. What do you think? Such a change belongs to `org-gnus-store-link' -- I'd be glad to apply a patch to this effect. Please find a patch attached. I works for me with latest Emacs, Org, Gnus from bzr/git but with all the limitations mentioned earlier in this thread. The patch includes the generation of the `Message-ID' header if none is present. It also removes the `message-deletable' property from that header to prevent Gnus from re-generating the message id and thus breaking the org link. This should (hopefully) work regardless of the value of `message-generate-headers-first', `message-deletable-headers' et al. Ulf --- org-gnus.el.orig 2011-02-09 10:20:37.003314968 +0100 +++ org-gnus.el 2011-02-09 14:50:55.320440970 +0100 @@ -186,7 +186,35 @@ link (org-gnus-article-link group newsgroups message-id x-no-archive)) (org-add-link-props :link link :description desc) - link + link)) + ((eq major-mode 'message-mode) +(setq org-store-link-plist nil) ; reset +(save-excursion + (save-restriction +(message-narrow-to-headers) +(and (not (message-fetch-field Message-ID)) + (message-generate-headers '(Message-ID))) +(goto-char (point-min)) +(re-search-forward ^Message-ID: *.*$ nil t) +(put-text-property (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0) 'message-deletable nil) +(let ((gcc (car (last + (message-unquote-tokens + (message-tokenize-header (mail-fetch-field gcc nil t) ,) + (id (org-remove-angle-brackets (mail-fetch-field Message-ID))) + (to (mail-fetch-field To)) + (from (mail-fetch-field From)) + (subject (mail-fetch-field Subject)) + desc link + newsgroup xarchive) ; those are always nil for gcc + (and (not gcc) + (error Can not create link: No Gcc header found.)) + (org-store-link-props :type gnus :from from :subject subject +:message-id id :group gcc :to to) + (setq desc (org-email-link-description) +link (org-gnus-article-link + gcc newsgroup id xarchive)) + (org-add-link-props :link link :description desc) + link)) (defun org-gnus-open-nntp (path) Follow the nntp: link specified by PATH. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] HTML export and absolute file names
With commit 330fb540 export of file links to HTML in `org-html-make-link' changed insofar that file links with absolute paths are now prepended with `file://'. This seems to make it virtually impossible to create HTML code like `a href=/abs/path.html'. However, creating HTML links with an absolute path (and without host name) is often desirable, especially when publishing to a site (where `file://' links are rather seldom needed). Would it be reasonable to address this and what would be the best way of doing so (new export var, new link type ...)? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
Hi Bastien, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: (defun ulf-message-send-and-org-gnus-store-link (optional arg) This is something I've been trying to achieve for very long! Great you found a solution. A minor suggestion: the function should make sure the buffer is not killed after the message is sent. I added (message-kill-buffer-on-exit nil) like this: good point, thanks for adding it. I also added an entry in org-hacks.org. Okay, thanks! Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Store link in message mode
After it's now possible for me to store an org link upon sending a message[1] I thought it might be even better to approach this problem in a more general way. The idea is to use `org-store-link' in message mode to create a link for the (yet to come) copy of the message. Currently `org-store-link' seems to be rather pointless in message mode as it creates a link to a draft (temporary) message file. Extending `org-gnus-store-link' to let it create a gnus link to the copy of the message when in message mode seems to be more reasonable. However, there are some, er, `issues' with this. 1) This will only work with Gnus. Message mode is in principle independent of Gnus but non-Gnus users will not benefit from `org-store-link' in message mode. 2) Storing a link in message mode effectively creates a link to something (the mail copy) that's (still) inexistent. This means that the link remains invalid until the message is actually sent (or more precisely: the copy is created upon sending). Furthermore, the link will be invalid if - the message is not sent; - the Gcc header is modified to point to a different group; - the message id is changed. And of course, the link description will be incorrect if Subject, From and/or To headers are changed between calling `org-store-link' and creating the message's copy. If you think --despite of those issues-- it's worth adding the creation of gnus links while in message mode I could provide a patch. I'd probably add the functionality to `org-gnus-store-link' but I'm not an org code expert and a different location may be more appropriate. What do you think? Ulf References: [1] see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/31280 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bastien is going to become the maintainer of Org mode in January
Thank you, Carsten, thank you, thank you, thank you for creating this project and putting so much excellent work into it. Also, thanks to all Carsten clones; I'm still not convinced there's only one Carsten ;) And of course a warm welcome to Bastien as new maintainer! Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link in message mode
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: If you think --despite of those issues-- it's worth adding the creation of gnus links while in message mode I could provide a patch. I'm curious how you are able to determine where a message will be filed after sending it off. I mean, you neither have the Message-Id at that point (unless that's added to `message-generate-headers-first'), Touché, good point. I had set `message-generate-headers-first' to t ages ago, so obviously I didn't realise that this is not the default. You are absolutely right that generating the Message-ID during message setup is a perquisite for creating a link. It's probably better, to grab all necessary headers after the message has been sent (and that's what I originally did). But this means we cannot use `org-store-link' in message mode and is also impractical when using `gnus-delay-article'. Hmmm, thinking about it, maybe `org-store-link' could create the Message-ID and insert it if it's not already present. I should have a look. nor do you know the correct group, at least if there are more than one in the Gcc header. With multiple groups in Gcc I currently use the last one ... but it could also be the first one, all, a user specified or whatever else seems feasible. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
I came back to the matter of storing an org link to a copy of a message upon sending that message. The function below does just that and proves to be quite useful together with a sensible key binding (if you use Gnus and Gcc that is). --8--cut herestart8--- (defun ulf-message-send-and-org-gnus-store-link (optional arg) Send message with `message-send-and-exit' and store org link to message copy. If multiple groups appear in the Gcc header, the link refers to the copy in the last group. (interactive P) (save-excursion (save-restriction (message-narrow-to-headers) (let ((gcc (car (last (message-unquote-tokens (message-tokenize-header (mail-fetch-field gcc nil t) ,) (buf (current-buffer)) id to from subject desc link newsgroup xarchive) (message-send-and-exit arg) (or ;; gcc group found ... (and gcc (save-current-buffer (progn (set-buffer buf) (setq id (org-remove-angle-brackets (mail-fetch-field Message-ID))) (setq to (mail-fetch-field To)) (setq from (mail-fetch-field From)) (setq subject (mail-fetch-field Subject (org-store-link-props :type gnus :from from :subject subject :message-id id :group gcc :to to) (setq desc (org-email-link-description)) (setq link (org-gnus-article-link gcc newsgroup id xarchive)) (setq org-stored-links (cons (list link desc) org-stored-links))) ;; no gcc group found ... (message Can not create Org link: No Gcc header found.)) (define-key message-mode-map [(control c) (control meta c)] 'ulf-message-send-and-org-gnus-store-link) --8--cut here-end-8--- Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
Eric S. Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: I came back to the matter of storing an org link to a copy of a message upon sending that message. The function below does just that and proves to be quite useful together with a sensible key binding (if you use Gnus and Gcc that is). Very nice! Works very well. Thanks. Instead of binding this to a command sequence, is there any hook we can attach the function to so that it's invoked for every message I send (I'm somewhat of a gnus noob unfortunately although I'm learning...)? I ask because I alternative between =C-c C-c= and =C-c C-j= for sending emails and I would need to provide two alternatives to incorporate your function. hmmm, never thought of this, probably because I never use `gnus-delay-article'. You could try to put the function into `message-send-hook' (but you should remove the call to `message-send-and-exit' first). I don't know if this would work as I don't know if the Gcc magic (incl. removal of Gcc header) is done before or after that hook. If the Gcc header has been removed when `message-send-hook' is called than you'll have to look for a different hook to use. If the Gcc header is still present, it should probably work as expected but note that in that case the org link will be created before the actual copying of the message took place. If something goes wrong with the latter this will leave you with a bogus org link (which, however, is probably not much of a problem). Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de wrote: Eric S. Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: I came back to the matter of storing an org link to a copy of a message upon sending that message. The function below does just that and proves to be quite useful together with a sensible key binding (if you use Gnus and Gcc that is). Very nice! Works very well. Thanks. Instead of binding this to a command sequence, is there any hook we can attach the function to so that it's invoked for every message I send (I'm somewhat of a gnus noob unfortunately although I'm learning...)? I ask because I alternative between =C-c C-c= and =C-c C-j= for sending emails and I would need to provide two alternatives to incorporate your function. hmmm, never thought of this, probably because I never use `gnus-delay-article'. You could try to put the function into `message-send-hook' (but you should remove the call to `message-send-and-exit' first). I don't know if this would work as I don't know if the Gcc magic (incl. removal of Gcc header) is done before or after that hook. If the Gcc header has been removed when `message-send-hook' is called than you'll have to look for a different hook to use. If the Gcc header is still present, it should probably work as expected but note that in that case the org link will be created before the actual copying of the message took place. If something goes wrong with the latter this will leave you with a bogus org link (which, however, is probably not much of a problem). If the hook approach does not work you could also advise `gnus-inews-do-gcc', the function that actually creates the message copies ... ... or you could replace `gnus-inews-do-gcc', e.g. replace the call to `message-send-and-exit' in `ulf-message-send-and-org-gnus-store-link' with something like `gnus-inews-do-gcc-orig' and save it as e.g. `my-gnus-gcc-and-org-store-link'. Then you could do something like (fset 'gnus-inews-do-gcc-orig (symbol-function 'gnus-inews-do-gcc)) (fset 'gnus-inews-do-gcc 'my-gnus-gcc-and-org-store-link) ... but that's all untested ;) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
Eric S. Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Thanks. I realised after sending my earlier message that this is going to be quite complicated. There's no point in storing a link when the message is actually sent (after all, that will be sometime later). I would want to store the link when I send the message to the delay queue (so that I can do something with the link, of course) so there really need to be two versions of your function. Should be doable. I'll think about it some more. ah, now I seem to understand. With your scenario I'd probably remove the call to `message-send-and-exit' from `ulf-message-send-and-org-gnus-store-link' and advise both `message-send-and-exit' and `gnus-delay-article' to run the modified function before execution. This would leave you with a stored link right after a `C-c C-c' and `C-c C-j'. But in case of the latter, the org link will be bogus until the message has actually been sent. Could that be a way to go for you? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Store link upon sending a message
It often happens to me that I send a message (Gnus) and need to keep a reference of the mail just sent as link in an org file. In Gnus copies of sent messages can be store in one or more groups using the `Gcc' header. So I usually select the group where the copy went right after sending and do an `org-store-link' on the newly created copy. It would of course be much nicer if the org link could be stored automagically upon sending the message (or more precisely upon creating the copy of the message). Such functionality could certainly be introduced in `gnus-inews-do-gcc' where group and article number of the copy are determined and the actual copy is written. But that would mean to actually modify Gnus code which is probably not a good and clean approach. As I'm not very familiar with the Gnus code I'll probably have to ask at the Gnus towers if it's possible to get hold of the group and article number of the last Gcc message created. But maybe someone around here has a partly or completely different idea how to achieve the described behaviour? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Store link upon sending a message
It often happens to me that I send a message (Gnus) and need to keep a reference of the mail just sent as link in an org file. In Gnus copies of sent messages can be store in one or more groups using the `Gcc' header. So I usually select the group where the copy went right after sending and do an `org-store-link' on the newly created copy. It would of course be much nicer if the org link could be stored automagically upon sending the message (or more precisely upon creating the copy of the message). Such functionality could certainly be introduced in `gnus-inews-do-gcc' where group and article number of the copy are determined and the actual copy is written. But that would mean to actually modify Gnus code which is probably not a good and clean approach. As I'm not very familiar with the Gnus code I'll probably have to ask at the Gnus towers if it's possible to get hold of the group and article number of the last Gcc message created. But maybe someone around here has a partly or completely different idea how to achieve the described behaviour? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Store link upon sending a message
Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: [snipped 15 lines] AFAIR, message-id is used for org links rather than the articla number. ah, right, that's at least what raw gnus-article links look like. I remember vaguely that this was different in the past and I obviously hadn't checked again. of the last Gcc message created. But maybe someone around here has a partly or completely different idea how to achieve the described behaviour? Which simplifies the problem quite a lot because we need to be able to see the buffer just before sending or copying it to Gcc folder. All the information is there. Yes, this makes things a lot easier :) IIUC we just need to parse the Gcc header for the group(s), grab the message-id and put things together. We should however keep in mind that we need to parse the Gcc header _before_ `gnus-inews-do-gcc' copies the message as the Gcc header is removed in the process. But the org link should probably be built _after_ `gnus-inews-do-gcc' to avoid bogus org links in case the Gcc fails. Additionally, it's probably not necessary to create a link for every group in Gcc but only for one (first one?). Furthermore, storing an org link should only happen when somehow requested by the user and not on every send. Although prefix args of `message-send' and friends already serve a different purpose that nevertheless seems to be trivial. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: bug: images always inlined when exporting to HTML
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: please pull and check if this is fixed now. works again here :) Thanks for fixing! Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: bug: images always inlined when exporting to HTML
Eric S. Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: It would appear that the handling of images in HTML export has changed sometime recently and does not match the documentation (12.5.5 Images in HTML export). Specifically, whether a link to an image file has a description or not is ignored and all my images are being inlined. Attached are a simple org file that illustrates the problem and the resulting HTML. I think I'm up to date with org, although the version number I get is a bit strange: : Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_6.36.718.g78ef) : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0) : of 2010-05-16 on raven, modified by Debian Same behaviour here with a slightly different version (Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_6.36.714.g7a6e)). Even with `org-export-html-inline-images' set to nil, images are /always/ exported inline. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org-Mode button
Hi Eric, Eric S. Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:57:33 +0200, Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de wrote: Advocating Org-Mode is always a noble cause. In order to do so, I've put together a created with Org-Mode button which is displayed on my website. Although I'm far from being a designer type of guy, you may want to have a look at http://ulf.zeitform.de/images/org-mode.png. Of course you are very welcome to use that button yourself or come up with an improved version. Excellent! I like it and would like to use it for my web pages. Can we get it placed somewhere static, like maybe on Worg? You mean a common URL where the button can be included from? Well, why not. Could someone with Worg write access do it? If more people are interested the image could also be placed in the contrib directory. Whoever wishes to do so, just go ahead. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Org-Mode button
Advocating Org-Mode is always a noble cause. In order to do so, I've put together a created with Org-Mode button which is displayed on my website. Although I'm far from being a designer type of guy, you may want to have a look at http://ulf.zeitform.de/images/org-mode.png. Of course you are very welcome to use that button yourself or come up with an improved version. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [Patch] New implementation of the Org remember process ready for comments and testing
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: I have not tested it, but I think this problem should be fixed now as well. - Carsten It works for me. Sebastian and for me, too. Thanks a lot :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [Patch] New implementation of the Org remember process ready for comments and testing
Hi Carsten, Sebastian, just tried the new capture mechanism and it works quiet fine. I like it a lot. Thanks for the work :) However ... Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Here's the tested and working patch for org-protocol.el. ... it seems that with `org-protocol-capture' the place holders `%:link', `%:description' and `%:initial' do not work anymore as they are inserted literally. I must admit that I haven't looked at my templates for a very long time and that those place holders may be outdated, but with `org-protocol-remember' at least `%:description' still works. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [Patch] New implementation of the Org remember process ready for comments and testing
Hi Sebastian, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: ... it seems that with `org-protocol-capture' the place holders `%:link', `%:description' and `%:initial' do not work anymore as they are inserted literally. I must admit that I haven't looked at my templates for a very long time and that those place holders may be outdated, but with `org-protocol-remember' at least `%:description' still works. Did those placeholders ever work through org-protocol? I re-tried with `org-protocol-remember' and yes, all of the placeholders work there. How exactly where they meant to work? In exactly the way they are described in the documentation, e.g. at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php#sec-6_2. My (remember) template looks like ... --8--snip--8--- (URLs ?u * TODO %:description\n (created: %U)\n\n %c\n\n %i todo.org bottom) --8--snap--8--- Did you convert your remember-templates before testing? Or did you just copy/rename your `org-remeber-templates' variable to `org-capture-templates'? No, I used `org-capture-import-remember-templates' to get the initial set of templates. All other templates work without problems. In the new variable `org-capture-templates', these placeholders are not guarantied to work (at least not documented). Use %c - this will be a link to the page in your browser %c is working as expected, i.e. it creates a link with the page title as label. BTW, %x contains exactly the same and not (as I thought) the selected text. %i - this will be the selected text in your browser, if any. This is, what `%:initial' was I guess. %a - same as %c Those two do not output anything. Currently, I use a minimal template with more or less only %c. However, it would be nice to have access to - page title (w/o link) - page URL - selected text Do you need some more information? Should I do some further testing? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-entities-user
Dear Nathaniel, Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com wrote: I've been setting up org-entities-user with a few custom symbols, and managed to get a few aliases for items already in org-entities, but i'm a bit stuck on adding new items - specifically, the mathbb versions of Z and R (the symbols for the sets of integers and reals). I can't seem to find the UTF-8, latin-1, or HTML encodings of these entities - and I'm not sure how to input the utf-8 or latin-1 even if I do. Does anyone know how to do this? there's nothing like a blackboard or double-struck R and Z in latin-1 (and ASCII) so you will need to live with a transcription like `R' or `REALS' c. In unicode these characters are called `double-struck capital r' and `double-struck capital z' and they have the hex values 211d and 2124 respectively. In Emacs you can enter them with `C-x 8 RET 211d RET' or `C-x 8 RET double-struck capital r RET'. The corresponding XML (XHTML) entities are `reals;' or `Ropf;' and `integers;' or `Zopf;' respectively. However, at least latest firefox does not know how to render these and outputs these entities literally so you might prefer to go for a transcription as well or use a unicode page encoding with the appropriate unicode characters. In case you are interested in further blackboard characters, w3c has a nice page about double-struck entities. Find it at http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-entity-names/double-struck.html. HTH, Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Bug: LaTeX export and LaTeX environment
With
Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.80.gbdfd)
GNU Emacs 24.0.50.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6)
the LaTeX exporter seems to cease to work when encountering a LaTeX
environment. Suppose this minimal org file:
--8--snip--8---
#+TITLE: Wrapping in Env
/foo/
#+BEGIN_LaTeX
\begin{center}
#+END_LaTeX
/bar/
#+BEGIN_LaTeX
\end{center}
#+END_LaTeX
/baz/
--8--snap--8---
When exported to LaTeX the relevant part looks like this:
--8--snip--8---
\emph{foo}
\begin{center}
/bar/
\end{center}
\emph{baz}
--8--snap--8---
As far as I can see, this happens only if an environment is defined in
the BEGIN/END_LaTeX blocks. Everything between such blocks is exported
literally. I'm pretty sure this once had worked but I'm not sure when
org stopped to export correctly.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Poll: Who is using these commands
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p for navigation through the outline? I use them all the time but I don't mind if they'd change. Another question: C-c C-v currently make the TODO sparse tree. dto. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Exporting to single LaTeX file and multiple HTML files
Hi David, Eric, all, David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de wrote: The function below could be a starting point of a more general functionality: It takes a file and splits copys all headlines with a certain level to a separate output file. Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly one of these... - http://eschulte.github.com/babel-dev/publish.html - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.php thank you both for the pointers, they all look interesting and I'll have a closer look at it soon. Originally, I've asked the question because of a forthcoming project with a rather large documentation where I'd like to advocate org as documentation system. However, since the whole thing has been postponed, the matter is less pressing. Nevertheless, I think that having a functionality to split files on export would be a nice improvement of org mode. If I would really need this some day, I'd probably write something to achieve it but certainly not in elisp as it would take me far too long due to lack of skill. I'd rather go for a ruby, perl or even shell script for post-processing the export. However, such post-processing would certainly not be the very best solution, an implementation in elisp would be much better. Regarding the split criteria, I'd say that splitting by section level is probably the most common case, although keeping track of the section numbering may pose a problem as David has already mentioned. Splitting by tag may be also useful. Ideally, section level or tag could be defined as export option. As said, the topic has been currently put on hold for me, but I'd nevertheless appreciate any hints and pointers regarding it. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Exporting to single LaTeX file and multiple HTML files
I'm wondering what's the best way to export a single org file to a /single/ LaTeX file but also to /multiple/ HTML files. Think of lengthy manuals and things like that where such a strategy may be sensible. What came to my mind were include commands or publishing functions that post-process the export but this seems all rather cumbersome. Has anyone a better idea? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Exporting to single LaTeX file and multiple HTML files
Hi Sebastian, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: I'm wondering what's the best way to export a single org file to a /single/ LaTeX file but also to /multiple/ HTML files. Think of lengthy manuals and things like that where such a strategy may be sensible. What came to my mind were include commands or publishing functions that post-process the export but this seems all rather cumbersome. Has anyone a better idea? - http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js/ yes, this is a nice one but sometimes separate files are really needed. - pdftohtml Ah, a clever one, too ;) Sure, it's possible to create a PDF and convert it to HTML later on but this still seems a bit cumbersome and I'm not quite sure about the reliability of the tool. When I used it last (some time ago) it desperately failed on some PDFs. Originally, I thought I could somehow achieve some sort of `split' behaviour (e.g. like in texi2html) where you can specify to create a separate file on export for every first (second, third ...) level headline. But that's probably a bit tricky. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: IMPORTANT: (possibly) incompatible Change
Karsten Heymann karsten.heym...@blue-cable.net wrote: Not as far as I know. hyperref and microtype will run with reduced features, but apart from that, there should be no problem. Regarding microtype, I do not know what happens when it is used with the old TeX or eTeX compiler that was used to created dvi's before pdftex was used for this too, but that should largely be an academic problem as pdftex is now used anywhere. No problems here, regarding the inclusion of microtype when using latex compiler. However, I'd strongly oppose to the claim that compatibility to the latex compiler (vs. pdftex) is an academic problem. I know about several LaTeX based systems that have to use the latex compiler simply because pdftex can't handle eps graphics and converting those images isn't feasible. So, while in the current case there's no compatibility issue, I think it's reasonable to support both compilers. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: export latex bug [6.34trans]
Hi Chris, Chris Gray chrismg...@gmail.com wrote: When exporting to LaTeX, I get the error void-variable org-on-heading-p. The following patch fixes the problem. I encounter the same problem, but I think the following is closer to what was originally intended ... --- org-latex.el.orig 2010-02-26 13:54:20.792505535 +0100 +++ org-latex.el 2010-02-26 13:55:05.637505030 +0100 @@ -2045,10 +2045,10 @@ (add-text-properties (1- (length footnote-rpl)) (length footnote-rpl) '(org-protected t) footnote-rpl) - (if org-on-heading-p) - (setq footnote-rpl - (concat (org-export-latex-protect-string \\protect) - footnote-rpl)) + (if (org-on-heading-p) + (setq footnote-rpl + (concat (org-export-latex-protect-string \\protect) + footnote-rpl))) (insert footnote-rpl))) ) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: textareas in HTML export
Dear Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Applied, thanks. thanks for that :) But I did move the overflow:x property into the css section (default style), because I think it is important *functionality* that should be there out off the box. Just as a suggestion: Wouldn't it be better to set `overflow-x' to `auto' instead of `scroll'? This leaves it up to the user agent how to render boxes with overflows. Major browsers (FF, IEs, Opera, Chrome) do what you expect: display a scroll bar if it's necessary (text goes beyond box border) or leave it out whenever it's not needed. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Literal HTML export and paragraphs
Hi, not quite sure if that's a bug but I've just noticed that literal HTML export with `#+HTML' or `#+BEGIN_HTML ...' suppresses paragraph markups whenever literal export appears at the end of a paragraph. An org file like this , | line 1 | line 2 | | line 3 ` is exported to , | p | line 1 | line 2 | /p | p | line 3 | /p ` while an org file like this , | line 1 | #+HTML: strongline 2/strong | | line 3 ` is exported to , | p | line 1 | strongline 2/strong | | line 3 | /p ` This is probably not a major thing but it may lead to invalid HTML code. Suppose `line 3' is replaced by e.g. an example block (which inserts its own p element) then a p element would appear inside another p element which is not allowed. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [LaTeX-Export] Longtable and Caption
Hi Carsten,
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
it was my understanding that the caption command in longtable is different
from the caption command in normal tables, in that it is a line that is
printed over the table on each page - so I thought it always needs to be
there. Is that not correct?
yes, treatment is different but nevertheless the caption is not
mandatory for longtable. I never had any problems with longtable tables
without \caption{}.
sorry for being so slow to process this request.
I believe this works now as you requested, please verify.
thanks for having a look at it (no need to apologise for the delay, it's
certainly not an urgent matter).
Captions are now suppressed for longtables without caption definition.
However, I've noticed that the extra linebreak (\\) is still inserted in
longtable environments regardless of the presence of a caption. That
linebreak leads to undesired effects when using longtable without a
caption but with vertical lines.
This should fix it:
--- org-latex.el.orig 2009-12-17 08:10:19.0 +0100
+++ org-latex.el 2009-12-17 08:49:02.0 +0100
@@ -1538,7 +1538,7 @@
\\caption{%s%s}
(if label (concat \\\label{ label }) )
(or caption )))
-(if longtblp \n \n)
+(if (and longtblp caption) \n \n)
(if (and org-export-latex-tables-centered (not longtblp))
\\begin{center}\n)
(if (not longtblp) (concat \\begin{tabular}{ align }\n))
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Org Entities (was: Add \EUR to `org-html-entities')
Hi Carsten,
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
I have added your symbols.
thanks, works great.
I was wondering if there's a more general problem lurking behind this
(thus the change of subject): the problem of encoding entities in org
for various export formats, namely HTML, LaTeX, plain ASCII text (and
maybe plain unicode text).
As an example, let's assume we have an org file that should eventually
be available as HTML, PDF and plain text. Let's assume further, that for
whatever reasons (e.g. ugly double quotes in the needed font) the
document should use French quoting. Ideally
`\SomeMagicOrgEncoding{}Quote\AnotherMagicOrgEncoding{}' in the org file
would export to
HTML - laquo;Quoteraquo;
LaTeX - \flqq{}Quote\frqq{}
ASCII - Quote
(Unicode- «Quote»)
Resorting to `org-html-entities' we could use
--8--snip--8---
#+LATEX_HEADER: \newcommand{\laquo}{\flqq} \newcommand{\raquo}{\frqq}
[...]
\laquo{}Quote\raquo{}
--8--snap--8---
to get the HTML and LaTeX output right but this leaves us with
`\laquo{}' in ASCII export and is generally a rather cumbersome
approach.
Maybe there's a simpler solution to address this but I haven't come
across it, yet (Note that `Use unicode!' isn't an option sometimes.).
Quoting is just one example that strikes my quite often, but the same
applies for all sorts of special characters; think of arrows, accented
characters etc.
This is certainly not a very pressing issue but it might be worth
thinking about how to handle this. What do you think?
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Org Entities
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: feel free to send me a modified version of the definitions of org-html-entities which contains an ASCII element as the third element of a list. I would then use this element for ASCII export. okay, great! I will work on that as soon as I have a little bit of spare time. Stay tuned. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [OT] Emacs for email?
Rémi Vanicat vani...@debian.org wrote: Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:56:08PM -0600, Russell Adams wrote: - Mutt automatically changes my email address depending on the recipient or folder according to a series of roles Not to reply to myself, but one item I've found lacking in other mailreaders and one of my primary reasons for using mutt is the concept of roles. I'm not sure what a role is, but with gnus, you can change you email address depending on the folder (group in gnus speak) or the topic (topic are a hierarchical organization of group). For this you use posting-style. There's also `gnus-alias'[1] which allows you to automagically select and easily switch identities. An `identity' covers nearly every aspect of a message like From-, Reply-To- and other headers, text to be pre-filled into the body and of course signatures. Having used quite a few mail-/news clients (well, ages ago, I must admit) I never came across a more powerful and flexible mechanism for using roles. Ulf [1] http://www.northbound-train.com/emacs.html#MyPackages ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [LaTeX-Export] Longtable and Caption
Hi Carsten,
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
it was my understanding that the caption command in longtable is different
from the caption command in normal tables, in that it is a line that is
printed over the table on each page - so I thought it always needs to be
there. Is that not correct?
yes, treatment is different but nevertheless the caption is not
mandatory for longtable. I never had any problems with longtable tables
without \caption{}.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Add \EUR to `org-html-entities'
Hi Carsten,
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
is there anything that speaks against adding
--8--snip--8---
(EUR . euro;)
--8--snap--8---
to `org-html-entities'? \EUR{} is provided by the Marvosym package and
euro; a valid (X)HTML representation of the euro sign. Maybe ever
better would be to add
I would like to minimize external dependencies.
well, that's something that speaks against it :)
Which distributions carry this package?
Marvosym comes with my TeX Live LaTeX distro and used to come with teTeX
AFAIR. I had the impression the package was rather widely used but I
maybe wrong.
(EURdig . euro;)
(EURhv . euro;)
(EURcr . euro;)
(EURtm . euro;)
I do not understand the purpose of these extra symbols, and why
they are all equal in HTML
While \EUR becomes the `official' euro symbol, \EURdig is a variant of
that with the same width as digits, \EURhv is a euro symbol that fits to
Helvetica, \EURcr dto. to Courier and \EURtm dto. to Times. This makes a
difference in LaTeX but is all the same in HTML: euro;.
Anyway, adding those symbols is not strictly necessary since everybody
can use the eurosym package (where \euro{} command comes from). I like
the Marvosym package better but I can also stick to what I currently do:
#+LATEX_HEADER: \newcommand{\euro}{\EUR}
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[Orgmode] [LaTeX-Export] Longtable and Caption
Hi,
is there any good reason why there's always a caption (\caption{})
included whenever a table is exported to LaTeX as longtable environment?
If there isn't, I would strongly prefer to have the same behaviour with
longtable as with ordinary tables, i.e. suppress the caption if
`#+CAPTION:' is not explicitly given.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] HTML exporting numbered literal examples
Hi Bastien, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I've finally pushed a change that allows whitespaces in labels and allow the -r switch to be used even if -n is not there. Please test it and let me know if it works as expected. great! I've tested this with some examples and it seems to work fine. Thanks for adding this feature :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] HTML exporting numbered literal examples
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: Right, I agree with your observation but I think I wouldn't with your conclusion. I don't think that this is a problem. From the author's point of view I think he/she knows what's going on since this is not the default behaviour and the `-r' switch actually has to be added. And after all we are talking about links. And as with any other link if the link target is self-explanatory: fine, then I can use it as link name. If it is not, I should choose something less confusing for the reader. One problem is the limitation about labels you can use. E.g. labels do not allow whitespaces. It is hard to write meaningful self-explanatory link names without using whitespaces. Ah okay, that is a good point indeed. I wasn't aware of the fact that labels could not contain whitespaces. I will see if I can overcome this in a clean way. That would be great. Thanks for your efforts! Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] HTML exporting numbered literal examples
Hi, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: With latest CVS Emacs and Git Org mode exporting literal examples (example/src) with the `-n' switch results in numbering starting on line *2* of the example in the resulting HTML file (LaTeX seems to be okay). The example in the manual ... --8--snip--8--- #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp -n -r (save-excursion (ref:sc) (goto-char (point-min)) (ref:jump) #+END_SRC In line [[(sc)]] we remember the current positon. [[(jump)][Line (jump)]] jumps to point-min. --8--snap--8--- ... (which is BTW not working as the manual misses the underscore in `#+END_SRC') results (visually) in Fixed in the manual. great, thanks! --8--snip--8--- (save-excursion (ref:sc) 1: (goto-char (point-min)) --8--snap--8--- with reference `sc' broken. Can anyone reproduce this? Yes. And I just pushed fix for that. dto. seems to work now as expected. And while we are at it: Would it be feasible to have `-r' in literal examples even without `-n', thus removing the label in the source code block even if the example is not numbered. I have no concrete case where this may be necessary but I think that usually labels shouldn't be displayed in /literal/ examples. For this I have no idea - it looks like we can wait for concrete examples :) I think, those examples are easy to make up. Line numbers are great for file contents and maybe input /or/ output. But as soon as in- and output are mixed up I find them rather disturbing (imagine e.g. a shell session). On the other hand removing labels and having that nice highlighting feature with HTML exported files maybe useful in either case. I had a quick look at `org-export-number-lines' and the following seems to work smoothly ... --8--snip--8--- --- org-exp.el.orig 2009-07-17 11:56:22.0 +0200 +++ org-exp.el 2009-07-17 11:57:30.0 +0200 @@ -2293,8 +2293,6 @@ (defun org-export-number-lines (text backend optional skip1 skip2 number cont replace-labels label-format) - (if (and (not number) (not (eq replace-labels 'keep))) - (setq replace-labels nil)) ;; must use names if no numbers (setq skip1 (or skip1 0) skip2 (or skip2 0)) (if (not cont) (setq org-export-last-code-line-counter-value 0)) (with-temp-buffer @@ -2342,7 +2340,7 @@ (if replace-labels (progn (delete-region (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1)) - (push (cons ref n) org-export-code-refs)) + (push (cons ref (if ( n 0) n ref)) org-export-code-refs)) (goto-char (match-beginning 2)) (delete-region (match-beginning 2) (match-end 2)) (insert ( ref )) --8--snap--8--- Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] HTML exporting numbered literal examples
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: I had a quick look at `org-export-number-lines' and the following seems to work smoothly ... Thanks for the patch. One problem though: now the first link (from the manuals example) looks like sc but there is no sc left in the source code. This is a bit confusing, no? So if we plan to make references to lines of code, it make sense to have either the line numbering or the labels (or both). What do you think? Right, I agree with your observation but I think I wouldn't with your conclusion. I don't think that this is a problem. From the author's point of view I think he/she knows what's going on since this is not the default behaviour and the `-r' switch actually has to be added. And after all we are talking about links. And as with any other link if the link target is self-explanatory: fine, then I can use it as link name. If it is not, I should choose something less confusing for the reader. Translated to the situation we have here this means: I can choose a self-explanatory reference and use this or I can give the link a label with a clear indication of what the link is about. From the reader's point of view there's no confusion either because he/she can always follow the link and see where this leads. I absolutely second that confusing behaviour should be avoided whenever possible but I don't think any confusion will occur here. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Markup for export question
Hi Giovanni,
Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it wrote:
--- Gio 9/7/09, Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de ha scritto:
When writing documentations I often
come across expressions like
doMagic('myVariable')
In an ideal world the HTML code for this after exporting the org file
would look like this:
codedoMagic('varmyVariable/var')/code
The purpose is of course to indicate that `doMagic' is a literal
function/method name while `myVariable' is not meant literal and is
to be replaced something more or less sensible.
... did you play with Literal examples, chapter 12.1 of the manual?
or 12.6.6 Text areas ?
yes, I'm aware of those but I was rather referring to inline markup not
src/example blocks. To make it clearer, imagine something like this:
Copy your configuration to /install-dir/conf.
Which ideally would be exported as
Copy your configuration to code/varinstall-dir/var/conf/code.
This is something where a src/example block is not suitable.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] [BUG] HTML exporting numbered literal examples
With latest CVS Emacs and Git Org mode exporting literal examples (example/src) with the `-n' switch results in numbering starting on line *2* of the example in the resulting HTML file (LaTeX seems to be okay). The example in the manual ... --8--snip--8--- #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp -n -r (save-excursion (ref:sc) (goto-char (point-min)) (ref:jump) #+END_SRC In line [[(sc)]] we remember the current positon. [[(jump)][Line (jump)]] jumps to point-min. --8--snap--8--- ... (which is BTW not working as the manual misses the underscore in `#+END_SRC') results (visually) in --8--snip--8--- (save-excursion (ref:sc) 1: (goto-char (point-min)) --8--snap--8--- with reference `sc' broken. Can anyone reproduce this? And while we are at it: Would it be feasible to have `-r' in literal examples even without `-n', thus removing the label in the source code block even if the example is not numbered. I have no concrete case where this may be necessary but I think that usually labels shouldn't be displayed in /literal/ examples. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Markup for export question
When writing documentations I often come across expressions like
doMagic('myVariable')
In an ideal world the HTML code for this after exporting the org file
would look like this:
codedoMagic('varmyVariable/var')/code
The purpose is of course to indicate that `doMagic' is a literal
function/method name while `myVariable' is not meant literal and is to
be replaced something more or less sensible.
However, I find that rather hard to achieve and was only able to produce
this with quoted HTML tags. In order to find a simpler solution I was
fiddling with `org-emphasis-alist' and `org-emphasis-regexp-components'
but to no avail. Does anybody have an idea how to create that HTML code
from a simple markup in an org file? BTW: Same applies probably for
LaTeX export but I haven't been playing around with this.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Bulk action You can now use the `s' key to select entries in the agenda. When one or more entries have been selected, the `B' key will execute an action on all selected entries. I believe this bulk action makes mainly sense for the commands that require answering interactive prompts. So far the supported actions are - Refile all selected entries to a single destination - Archive all selected entries - Set the TODO state of all selected entries, bypassing any blocking or note-taking. - Add or remove a tag to/from all selected entries We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Christian Egli christian.e...@sbszh.ch wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Bulk action We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them all to a fixed date? I usually display unscheduled TODO items in my agenda as well (org-agenda-include-all-todo), so if I decide that I should work on some of them next week then a bulk action to schedule them might come in handy. So one use case is to set a fixed scheduled date for a number of TODOs. In my case these are tasks that have not been scheduled yet. Another use case is when I decide that there will not be enough time this week to complete all scheduled tasks. I want to move some of the tasks to next week. This could be either a shift by 7 days or a rescheduling to next monday (a fixed date). Yes, both shifting by the same amount and setting a fixed date can be useful. I usually re-schedule leftover todos by shifting them by one or two working days to the future. So originally I had a bulk version of `org-agenda-do-date-later' and friends in mind as opposed to `org-agenda-schedule'. But the latter one would be useful to. Ideally, S-left, C-cC-s et al. would trigger a bulk shift/bulk schedule whenever there are marked agenda items. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Macros broken
Hi,
with today's version of Org mode and CVS Emacs (23.1.50.1) macro
expansion seems to be broken. An org file like
--8--snip--8---
#+MACRO: foo BAR
* baz
{{{foo}}}
--8--snap--8---
exported to HTML produces
--8--snip--8---
[...]
div id=outline-container-1 class=outline-2
h2 id=sec-1span class=section-number-21/span baz /h2
div class=outline-text-2 id=text-1
p
ACR
/p/div
[...]
--8--snap--8---
The `ACR' origins from the first line of the file, i.e. different first
lines result in different expansions.
I'm not aware of any settings I have that should influence macro
handling, so I guess this is reproduce-able.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] Re: Macros broken
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed, thanks. great! Thank you. But you know that with your quick responses you feed the rumours about multiple Carstens being out there :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Sourceforge community award
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Complete this sentence in about 140 characters: Our project is [-foo-]. For example, Our project is a tool that helps you wash your car. There were already some good suggestions, I think. And furthermore the example isn't bad either as Org mode actually *does* help you wash your car ;) 2. Complete this sentence, also in about 140 characters: We should win because [-bar-]. For example, We should win because we have a strong community and we solve a universal problem. I don't have a concrete idea for the sentence but when I think about why Org mode should win Neal Stephenson comes to my mind: emacs outshines all other editing software in approximately the same way that the noonday sun does the stars Replace `Emacs' with `Org mode' and `editing' with `organising' and you have the reason why Org mode should win. Maybe Org mode's singularity in its area and the fact that it's so much ahead of any other organising tool can be cast in a 140 character phrase for the jury?! Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [BUG] Date/Time Confusion
With git org as of yesterday an org file entry like --8--snip--8--- * TODO [#B] Arrange something for [2009-06-01 Mon 10:00-12:30] SCHEDULED: 2009-05-27 Wed --8--snap--8--- will show up in the agenda (C-a a) at the scheduled day at the time as defined in the inactive timestamp in the headline. So according to the agenda, the above example is scheduled for today, 10:00-12:30. The time definition of the inactive timestamp is only considered as part of the scheduled timestamp if the inactive timestamp appears in the headline and if the scheduled timestamp does not contain times itself. This is not really a big thing, but nevertheless I would consider it to be a bug. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Counter cookies and mixed checkbox lists/subtasks
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I am still not convinced, in particular about adding new syntax. One thing I could imagine though, is this: If an entry has checkboxes, always put those into the cookie, not the children. Or maybe a variable, stating your preference for this. This would at least give predictable behavior. or how about a property? You win. After your next git update, set the property COOKIE_DATA to either todo or checkbox. great! Works like a charm here. Thank you for the effort. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Counter cookies and mixed checkbox lists/subtasks
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I am still not convinced, in particular about adding new syntax. One thing I could imagine though, is this: If an entry has checkboxes, always put those into the cookie, not the children. Or maybe a variable, stating your preference for this. This would at least give predictable behavior. or how about a property? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-protocol and encoding
Sebastian, Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Ulf, can you do some testing, please? done that using Emacs 23 (cvs today), Org (git today + patch), Firefox 3.0.8 on linux. Everything seems to work fine, I haven't found a single page/text that hasn't been encoded correctly. So I assume that the patch is working ... at least in the environment mentioned. Thanks for your effort and the good work :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Counter cookies and mixed checkbox lists/subtasks
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: there is no way currently to force a cookie either way. I think the the right solution is to modify the structure, so that the check boxes are only in entries without children. Seems to me that this is always possible - in your case you could just create a first child that gets the checkboxes. okay, as said, this is rather a minor annoyance. However, fixing this might nevertheless be desirable since the combination of checkboxes and todo item is quite powerful. Imagine you are compiling a document where you need contributions from others. You could make a todo item for this with checkboxes for every chapter planned (or for every author you expect input from, or ...). As soon as contributions from authors arrive, you create todo items preferably below the same initial todo item, indicating that you have to integrate input. When compiling the document you finish those todo items on the one hand and on the other hand checkboxes will eventually get checked as chapters are finished. Although putting the chapter checkboxes into its own sub-item is possible, much of the simplicity and elegance of the original approach gets lost. What do you think? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Counter cookies and mixed checkbox lists/subtasks
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Imagine you are compiling a document where you need contributions from others. You could make a todo item for this with checkboxes for every chapter planned (or for every author you expect input from, or ...). As soon as contributions from authors arrive, you create todo items preferably below the same initial todo item, indicating that you have to integrate input. When compiling the document you finish those todo items on the one hand and on the other hand checkboxes will eventually get checked as chapters are finished. Although putting the chapter checkboxes into its own sub-item is possible, much of the simplicity and elegance of the original approach gets lost. What do you think? Well, I don't really agree. * TODO compile document [ ] get input from Chris [ ] get input from Alice ** TODO integrate input from Chris ** TODO integrate input from Alice. You could easily do: * TODO compile document ** Get input [ ] get input from Chris [ ] get input from Alice ** TODO integrate input from Chris ** TODO integrate input from Alice. This is what I mean with you can always restructure to avoid the problem. I think the second option is at least as clear, maybe clearer. yes, certainly restructuring is an option but not necessarily a satisfying one. I've probably missed to make the example clear enough. Let's look at the checkbox part of the (top-level) todo item as a sort of list of milestones. They certainly belong to the (top-level) todo and are usually well defined from the very beginning. When the whole thing gets started, todos pop in and they are added to the original todo item ad hoc. Those todo items could be of varying quality, some simple 10-minutes jobs, others more complex, possibly with sub-items of their own. However, in respect of measuring the top-level todo item's progress, they are irrelevant, only milestones count. Outsourcing the milestones into a sub-item is in my opinion not clearer since the milestones really belong to the top-level and not the newly created sub-item. Furthermore, the integral difference between milestones and other todos blurs. A logically better solution would be to turn every checkbox item into an ordinary todo item and assign each new (non-milestone) todo to the relevant milestone item. This however would increase complexity of the whole structure and would pose problems with todos that do not belong to a single milestone. Of course, the current behaviour of Org does not hinder anyone to use a structure as outlined above (giving a great bunch of freedom to users on how to organise themselves is one of the great strength of Org IMHO). What's currently counted by the cookie is usually easy to recognise and that's why I said this is really a minor issue. Apart from all pros and cons on different structures there might be another reason to deal with the cookie issue: IMHO it's very close to a bug (although not a programming bug). Why? Because Org does something the user does not expect and (what's worse) is not really useful. When encountering an item with mixed types (checkboxes and sub-items), Org counter cookies could count a) all items and checkboxes, b) only one type (items or checkboxes) or c) the first type that appears in the item. All these option would make a certain sense. But counting the type that has been updated last is confusing and not really useful. Maybe it's already enough to describe the current behaviour in the docs. I do like the simplicity of the cookies right now, adding specifiers of what they refere to would make them less usable in my mind. I totally agree that the simplicity of the cookies should remain. Defining a reference should only be necessary if you have an item with mixed types below /and/ if you are not satisfied with the default behaviour. Sorry for that rather lengthy reply. It was not meant to steal your time by discussing a minor issue. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Counter cookies and mixed checkbox lists/subtasks
The following applies to Emacs 23.0.92 and Org 6.25trans, both checked out a few minutes ago. I'm quite fond of using counter cookies in headlines (`[/]' or `[%]'). However, when using those cookies in headlines where the body mixes up checkbox lists and subtasks org-mode changes reference of the cookie between list items and tasks depending on what has been last updated (probably due to the fact that the cookies may refer to both types). To give an example: --8--snip--8--- * TODO Something to do [/] - [ ] first item - [ ] second item - [ ] third item ** TODO first subtask ** TODO second subtask --8--snap--8--- Now, when checking a check box this would look like: --8--snip--8--- * TODO Something to do [1/3] - [x] first item - [ ] second item - [ ] third item ** TODO first subtask ** TODO second subtask --8--snap--8--- Given that, changing the state of a subtask will lead to: --8--snip--8--- * TODO Something to do [1/2] - [x] first item - [ ] second item - [ ] third item ** DONE first subtask ** TODO second subtask --8--snap--8--- So the question is: Is it possible to give the counter cookie a clear reference, i.e. always counting the checkbox list *or* the subtasks? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible?
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: great ... but unfortunately it's not working here. Whenever I try to export an org file to HTML now, I get 'org-export-normalize-links: Invalid function: org-if-unprotected-at' (with Emacs 23 and Org Mode versions as of this morning). This also happens with emacs -Q and a plain `org-install'. This is defined in org-macs.el. http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=commitdiff;h=538a536d0da678a753f4e5db17b2e13c6fb1876b Something must have gone wrong when you updated. try removing all .elc files, maybe recompile. You are right, it's there and after re-installing org-mode it works like a charm. I guess, somehow org-macs.el failed to re-compile in the first place but I really have no idea how this happened. Anyway, this perfectly solves my problem. Thanks you very much :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible?
Thank you for all the quick responses :) Unfortunately, none of the proposed solutions really applies to the problem I have (That's however entirely my fault, I should have made things a bit clearer.). The workarounds (except for one) concentrate on making a link caused by a literal invalid address to become a valid link. However, what I like to achieve is some sort of escaping that prevents org-mode from generating a link at all (especially for HTML exporting). Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it wrote: You can write: 1. [[ ][http://gateway.example.org]] ^^^ please note the space here when converted it should refer to http://your-server/yourfile# Works, but still creates a link. 2. use valid addresses ;-) Unfortunately, this isn't an option. Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: a dirty hackish aproach: (defun sr-no-link (href) Links, that are no links #) (setq org-link-abbrev-alist '((man . http://localhost/devel/man.php?q=manamp;what=%s;) ;; ... many more ... (dummy . sr-no-link)) [[dummy:][http://gateway.example.org]] It's still displayed as link then, but the browsers do nothing ;-) Goes in the same direction: a link is still created. Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove plain from the list. This would work (I guess), but is AFAIK to be set globally, thus resulting in the loss of all other plain text links. What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, like \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like =\http:...\=). Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible?
Hi Giovanni, Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it wrote: --- Mar 17/2/09, Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de ha scritto: What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, like \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like =\http:...\=). what about post processing your HTML file with an /ad hoc/ function (called e.g. my-replace-esc-hlink [1])? In your file.org you may write \http://gateway.orgthat is exported as: \a href=http://gateway.org;http://gateway.org/a then open your html buffer and M-x my-replace-esc-hlink thanks for the idea. I was also thinking about using a postprocessing, maybe by using the completion-function when publishing. Should nothing else work, I will probably come back to this. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible?
Dear Carsten, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, like \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like =\http:...\=). Indeed, something like =http://a.com= should work, this is a bug. I have just fixed it. great ... but unfortunately it's not working here. Whenever I try to export an org file to HTML now, I get 'org-export-normalize-links: Invalid function: org-if-unprotected-at' (with Emacs 23 and Org Mode versions as of this morning). This also happens with emacs -Q and a plain `org-install'. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Feature improvement request: state change logging
Wanrong Lin wanrong@gmail.com wrote: The state change logging is great, but I wonder whether we can further improve it: 1. Can we also include the original state in the log message? i.e.: instead of having - State DEFERRED [2009-02-11 Wed 11:38] we can have - State DEFERRED from HOLD [2009-02-11 Wed 11:38] Nice idea IMHO. 2. Can we put all of those state change history logging messages into a drawer like STATE-HIST (when the drawer is defined in org-drawers), so it is less intrusive in the file? That's even better. I'd strongly second that. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Return on a task behaves like TAB
Hi Bernt, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: ... ** Some Task... ** Another task... ... and I want to add detail at the end of 'Some Task'. What I used to do was just put the point at the beginning of the line for ** Another Task and then hit RETURN to insert a blank line and move up to it to add detail. just as a side note: wouldn't it be better to use C-o (`open-line') instead of RET (`newline')? This would leave the cursor probably where you want it to be without the need for an additional C-p. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: the 40 variables project
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:
So here is my question to all of you. Could you, in reply to this
message, list all the Org-related variables that you have customized,
along with the values you used?
apart from some face definitions and things like export or agenda view
customisations that really everybody will customise when he/she needs
it, here you are:
--8--snip--8---
(defconst emacs-org-dir (expand-file-name org/ emacs-files-dir)
Org-mode files directory)
(setq org-agenda-files (list
(expand-file-name todo.org emacs-org-dir)
(expand-file-name notes.org emacs-org-dir)
))
(setq
org-log-done 'time
org-use-fast-todo-selection t
org-fast-tag-selection-include-todo t
org-agenda-ndays 7
org-deadline-warning-days 14
org-agenda-show-all-dates t
org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
org-agenda-start-on-weekday 1
org-reverse-note-order nil
org-return-follows-link t
org-support-shift-select nil
org-enforce-todo-dependencies t
org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks t
org-fast-tag-selection-single-key t
org-agenda-restore-windows-after-quit t
org-agenda-window-setup (quote current-window)
org-email-link-description-format Email %c: %.50s
org-blank-before-new-entry (quote ((heading . auto) (plain-list-item . auto)))
org-remember-store-without-prompt t
org-remember-templates
'((Tasks ?t * TODO %?\n %i\n %a todo.org Tasks)
(Notes ?n * %u %? notes.org Notes))
remember-annotation-functions '(org-remember-annotation)
remember-handler-functions '(org-remember-handler)
org-global-properties
'((Effort_ALL .
0 0:05 0:15 0:30 0:45 1:00 1:30 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00))
org-columns-default-format
%PRIORITY %45ITEM(Task) %TODO %Effort(Est.){:} %CLOCKSUM(Time)
org-agenda-columns-add-appointments-to-effort-sum t
org-return-follows-link t
org-special-ctrl-a/e t
org-special-ctrl-k t
org-tab-follows-link nil
org-tag-faces nil
org-agenda-restore-windows-after-quit t
org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window
org-archive-save-context-info '(time file category todo priority itags olpath
ltags)
org-blank-before-new-entry ((heading . auto) (plain-list-item . auto))
org-clock-in-switch-to-state STARTED
org-clock-out-remove-zero-time-clocks t
org-email-link-description-format Email %c: %.30s nil nil n)
--8--snap--8---
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[Orgmode] Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: OK, it is in: #+begin_example -t -w 80 -h 20 ... #+end_example HTH, thanks for the idea. Great! Works like a charm. Thank you for implementing it :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a ptextarea ../textarea/p structure in HTML export? I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea would be even better. Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be. Can you try again to explain? of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This allows to give literal examples with variables that can be changed directly inside the page before being copied and pasted. Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit them a lot easier? Or are you talking about pasting examples directly into an interpreter input stream? yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex system and software setup and the examples were mainly meant to be copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable things like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste this in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy. Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to the first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable value into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to complete their command line(s). Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing. no, I wouldn't say so. textarea seems to have become quite popular in HTML online documentation. Apart from all the copy and paste stuff, textarea can do a virtual wrap or give you a horizontal scroll bar. This is nice if you have literal text with long lines that can or should not be wrapped but should also not exceed you layout's horizontal limits. I'd guess this is the main reason, why textarea is widely used to give literal examples. Nevertheless, the textarea block is certainly just a nice-to-have and not an absolutely necessary killer-feature. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a ptextarea ../textarea/p structure in HTML export? I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea would be even better. Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be. Can you try again to explain? of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This allows to give literal examples with variables that can be changed directly inside the page before being copied and pasted. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a ptextarea ../textarea/p structure in HTML export? I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea would be even better. Ideally the cols attribute to textarea could be defined by the user after #+begin_textarea (or whatever) with a reasonable default (let's say 80). Rows could be calculated depending on the number of lines inside the block. Export to anything else than HTML should treat such a block in much the same way as an example block. I think this really would be a nice feature to have and maybe I'm not alone with this opinion? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Bug in `org-get-outline-path'
Hi, I've encountered a problem with `org-get-outline-path' (as of today) which fails if the (optional) argument `level' is nil. The error occured when calling `org-archive-subtree'. The following fixes it for me. --- org.el.orig 2008-12-17 09:55:44.0 +0100 +++ org.el 2008-12-17 10:23:38.0 +0100 @@ -7542,7 +7542,7 @@ (defun org-get-outline-path (optional fastp level heading) Return the outline path to the current entry, as a list. - (if ( level 19) (error Outline path failure, more than 19 levels.)) + (if (and level ( level 19)) (error Outline path failure, more than 19 levels.)) (if fastp (progn (loop for i from level upto 19 do Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: Besides, my Gnus holds `gnus-large-newsgroup' as a string not as integer. What?!? Do you set it somewhere? The docs say it should be a number or nil. Yes, I was investigating that, too ... and indeed I found that the value was user set. What had driven me to set it as string remains a mystery to me, I wasn't even aware I'd ever touched that value. So I think it's save to assume that `gnus-large-newsgroup' is an integer or nil ;) Just one other comment: After failure to get a summary buffer by reading the last article you try it with reading 1- gnus-large-newsgroup articles. I'd assume that in most cases where the first call to gnus-group-read-group fails only one or a few more articles have been deleted in the group in question. In that case, it might be quicker if `org-gnus-follow-link' increases the number of articles to be read by one and tries `gnus-group-read-group' again until the call succeeds. Yeah, I'll implement like that. But incrementing one by one is not optimal. When a user deletes all messages (including the linked one) the summary cannot be opened anyway and you'll loop till the maximum integer (or whatever you use as upper bound). So I think I'll try increasing by one till 16 and then start doubling. Yes, increasing the interval is certainly a good idea. But how about using the Fibonacci sequence (1, 2, 3, 5, 8 ...) for this :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: Ulf Stegemann ulf-n...@zeitform.de writes: Yes, increasing the interval is certainly a good idea. But how about using the Fibonacci sequence (1, 2, 3, 5, 8 ...) for this :) The fibonacci sequence increases too slow. The current implementation (which should hit the main tree soon) increases step by step till 16 and then doubles the value till an integer overflow occurs. Normally, that cannot happen, only if the group is empty. But in that case gnus signals a quit condition, which is handled now with an appropriate message. If you're impatient you can pull from git://www.tsdh.de/org-mode.git instead of waiting till Carsten pulled the changes. Carsten already did that. The new version works fine. Thanks for your effort :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this works in principle but is not really an option. Since first argument 't' to `gnus-group-read-group' makes every article readable in a group, building the summary buffer takes far too long for groups with many articles. Try it with groups containing 10.000+ articles and you'll see what I mean. Normally you should be asked how many articles you wanna see, if the group is big. If that's not the case for you, you have customized something which controls that. hmmm, I'm not aware I've ever done something like that but since my Gnus config evolved over several years I cannot completely exclude this possibility. I know the behaviour you've mentioned from nntp groups, maybe it's different with the nnml backend (I was actually testing this with nnml). But indeed, it doesn't solve the real problem. Even if it asks and the user says 100 but deleted the last 100 messages in that group before, it'll react as it is now. D'accord. Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please try this one: diff --git a/lisp/org-gnus.el b/lisp/org-gnus.el index 7231538..05bed5b 100644 --- a/lisp/org-gnus.el +++ b/lisp/org-gnus.el @@ -157,12 +157,9 @@ If `org-store-link' was called with a prefix arg the meaning of (funcall (cdr (assq 'gnus org-link-frame-setup))) (if gnus-other-frame-object (select-frame gnus-other-frame-object)) (cond ((and group article) + (gnus-activate-group group t) (gnus-group-read-group 1 nil group) - (gnus-summary-goto-article - (if (string-match [^0-9] article) - article - (string-to-number article)) - nil t)) + (gnus-summary-goto-article article nil t)) (group (gnus-group-jump-to-group group (defun org-gnus-no-new-news () Unfortunately, it doesn't work. The behaviour is the same as with the original version: jumping to the article works if the last article in the group in question hasn't been deleted, otherwise it fails. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please try this one: diff --git a/lisp/org-gnus.el b/lisp/org-gnus.el index 7231538..05bed5b 100644 --- a/lisp/org-gnus.el +++ b/lisp/org-gnus.el @@ -157,12 +157,9 @@ If `org-store-link' was called with a prefix arg the meaning of (funcall (cdr (assq 'gnus org-link-frame-setup))) (if gnus-other-frame-object (select-frame gnus-other-frame-object)) (cond ((and group article) +(gnus-activate-group group t) (gnus-group-read-group 1 nil group) -(gnus-summary-goto-article - (if (string-match [^0-9] article) - article - (string-to-number article)) - nil t)) +(gnus-summary-goto-article article nil t)) (group (gnus-group-jump-to-group group (defun org-gnus-no-new-news () Unfortunately, it doesn't work. The behaviour is the same as with the original version: jumping to the article works if the last article in the group in question hasn't been deleted, otherwise it fails. I tried exactly that and it solved the problem for me. Did you apply the patch and eval the function thereafter? Or did you recompile org-mode if you restarted emacs for the test? huh, that's strange. The patched version was really in effect here when the tests failed. I've just updated Gnus to the latest (CVS) version but again, it's not fixed for me ... and maybe it cannot be fixed. The whole subject reminds me of the old Gnus wrong article count problem. AFAIK there was never a solution for this apart from moving articles into groups or temporarily renaming groups (see also `gnus-group-compact-group'). Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: huh, that's strange. The patched version was really in effect here when the tests failed. I've just updated Gnus to the latest (CVS) version but again, it's not fixed for me ... and maybe it cannot be fixed. The whole subject reminds me of the old Gnus wrong article count problem. Exactly that's the problem. Please do a test for me: 1. Enter a group in Gnus 2. Delete the last article 3. Exit summary 4. Try `C-u 1 RET' on the group. It should issue No unread news. 5. Do `M-: (gnus-activate-group group-name t) RET' 6. Try `C-u 1 RET' on the group again. Now it should be opened and summary should contain one article. If you get different results it seems to be due to your gnus version. I use the one included in emacs 23 and update daily, so it might be more up to date than your copy. Maybe try to update yours, too. done that. I was under the wrong impression that the CVS on cvs.gnus.org holds the latest version of Gnus but it seems it just has the release from 1st May. It seems that latest Gnus is now available from the Emacs CVS only (sorry for my ignorance). I installed that version here (5.13 as of today, see User-Agent header) but again the summary buffer is not opened. Do you know (and remember) what has changed in Gnus sources since 1st May that made the wrong article count-bug go away? Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please do a test for me: 1. Enter a group in Gnus 2. Delete the last article 3. Exit summary 4. Try `C-u 1 RET' on the group. It should issue No unread news. 5. Do `M-: (gnus-activate-group group-name t) RET' 6. Try `C-u 1 RET' on the group again. Now it should be opened and summary should contain one article. If you get different results it seems to be due to your gnus version. I use the one included in emacs 23 and update daily, so it might be more up to date than your copy. Maybe try to update yours, too. done that. I was under the wrong impression that the CVS on cvs.gnus.org holds the latest version of Gnus but it seems it just has the release from 1st May. It seems that latest Gnus is now available from the Emacs CVS only (sorry for my ignorance). There's nothing to excuse. I wasn't aware that the versions diverged that much, too. yes, I really was surprised ... especially as gnus.org offers a 'nightly snapshot' that also seems to be the version as of 1st May. I installed that version here (5.13 as of today, see User-Agent header) How? Did you checkout GNU Emacs and copy all the gnus-related files somewhere? Exactly, I got emacs sources by CVS and used the lisp/gnus/ files (plus some other lisp files from gnus.org that where missing and XEmacs seems to require). Byte-Compiling here with XEmacs 21.4 went smoothly, Gnus runs as before ... at least until now ;) but again the summary buffer is not opened. That's really strange. BTW: What backend did you use for testing? I used nnimap. MAybe that makes the difference... Gotcha! It works on nnimap but not on nnml which I was using for the tests. Maybe you'll try this with your installation as well. If it fails for nnml groups for you, too, that might be an important point for the discussion you've started on emacs.gnus.general. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please try this patch and report back if it works. [...] - (gnus-group-read-group 1 nil group) - (gnus-summary-goto-article - (if (string-match [^0-9] article) - article - (string-to-number article)) - nil t)) - (group (gnus-group-jump-to-group group + (gnus-group-read-group t nil group) + (gnus-summary-goto-article article nil t)) +(group (gnus-group-jump-to-group group this works in principle but is not really an option. Since first argument 't' to `gnus-group-read-group' makes every article readable in a group, building the summary buffer takes far too long for groups with many articles. Try it with groups containing 10.000+ articles and you'll see what I mean. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Problem with org-gnus-follow-link
(Org as of 2008-12-08, Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9), XEmacs/21.4.21 (linux)) Hi, I've encountered a problem with `org-gnus-follow-link' which sometimes fails to fetch the appropriate article in Gnus. This does not happen when a buffer is visiting the group the link points to. After a bit of investigation I found out that the problem is `gnus-group-read-group' which is called by `org-gnus-follow-link'. `gnus-group-read-group' does not return an article but nil if the last message of the group has been deleted (this is re-producable here). Inserting a new article into the group (e.g. by moving an article from that group into the same group again) solves the problem. I'm not quite sure how to address the problem or the other way round: is this a bug in `gnus-group-read-group' that should never return nil if the first argument is 1 and there's at least one article in the group or is it a bug in `org-gnus-follow-link' that counts on `gnus-group-read-group' returning an article. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] better links to Gnus articles
Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just updated to the latest git version and it seems that the patch in questions breaks linking to Gnus articles. I'm using XEmacs 21.4.21 and No Gnus v0.9. Hm, I tried to setup XEmacs 21.4.21 and ngnus-0.10 (0.9 is not listed at gnus.org), but when do (require 'gnus) I get: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error Cannot open load file jka-compr) [...] Where do I get jka-compr for XEmacs? It's part of the 'os-utils' package. Hm, that indicates that `org-gnus-store-link' returned nil. You could do me a favour and edebug `org-gnus-store-link' and see what's going wrong. There might me some differences between emacs and XEmacs I'm not aware of. In fact org-gnus wasn't even loaded. The reason was that XEmacs' `defvaralias' (line 41) doesn't accept an optional third argument as Emacs does. Once this had been fixed, org-gnus was loaded without problems and worked right away. While testing the new version I've noticed that links are now made up of group#message-id instead of group#article number, at least for nnml groups. This means that links created with the new version are not usable with older versions. And this might be a problem since the same set of org files is often used on different computers with possibly different versions of org-mode. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] better links to Gnus articles
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have applied this patch without testing it thoroughly myself, I'd appreciate if some of you could test this and make sure that it does not break anything. I've just updated to the latest git version and it seems that the patch in questions breaks linking to Gnus articles. I'm using XEmacs 21.4.21 and No Gnus v0.9. Unfortunately, I hadn't had the time to dive deeper into this but what's not working anymore is `org-store-link' in an article or summary buffer ... , | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Cannot link to a buffer which is | not visiting a file) | signal(error (Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file)) | cerror(Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file) | apply(cerror Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file nil) | error(Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting a file) | org-store-link(nil) | call-interactively(org-store-link) ` ... as well as opening a stored link to a Gnus article in an org buffer (giving me No Match). Maybe I have the time to investigate this further tomorrow or next week but I already wanted to let you know that the patch in question probably needs some further attention. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: date marking with (org-diary)
Hi Carsten, all,
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
[...]
Including agenda items into the diary with '%%(org-diary ...' is
something I personally find pretty useless as the dates of those items
are not fontified in the calendar. Using '%%(org-diary ...' would be
fine but the entries to use (':scheduled', ':todo' aso) cannot be
limited any further. This not only leads to unacceptable delays while
calendar tries to fontify its buffer but also to a calendar with nearly
everyday marked. My intent was to mark dates with appointments only (I
have scheduled items, todos etc. nearly everyday so there's no need to
mark them). In my case this means that (org-diary) would need to
distinct between different TODO keywords. However, filtering based on
tags or date/time formats would be fine, too.
My question now is: Is there currently any way to achieve such a
filtering with (org-diary)? And if not, are there any plans to enhance
(org-diary) in that direction?
[...]
this is not supported yet, and I have no concrete plans to implement
this. Marking entries in the calendar will always be unacceptably
slow, because the way the calendar/diary implements this is creating
the list of appointment for each of the 90+ days in the calendar
display. Even with filtering, this would be slow - basically one
would have to rewrite the code in the diary.
okay, then I guess we have to live with it.
[...]
Making use of the cursor position in the agenda
===
[...]
* Picking a date for scheduling/deadline in the agenda
Thank you for pointing this out. It's not quite what I was looking for
but nevertheless it's a good workaround. Thanks for your help.
Ulf
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[Orgmode] date marking with (org-diary)
Hi all,
I was recently playing around with marking org agenda items in the
calendar using (org-diary) in the diary file. I encountered a problem
already described by Wanrong Lin some time ago (see
http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg05839.html).
Unfortunately no answers were given to his original request so here it
comes again:
Including agenda items into the diary with '%%(org-diary ...' is
something I personally find pretty useless as the dates of those items
are not fontified in the calendar. Using '%%(org-diary ...' would be
fine but the entries to use (':scheduled', ':todo' aso) cannot be
limited any further. This not only leads to unacceptable delays while
calendar tries to fontify its buffer but also to a calendar with nearly
everyday marked. My intent was to mark dates with appointments only (I
have scheduled items, todos etc. nearly everyday so there's no need to
mark them). In my case this means that (org-diary) would need to
distinct between different TODO keywords. However, filtering based on
tags or date/time formats would be fine, too.
My question now is: Is there currently any way to achieve such a
filtering with (org-diary)? And if not, are there any plans to enhance
(org-diary) in that direction?
Regards,
Ulf
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