Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:14 AM, zwz zhangwe...@gmail.com wrote: Those days I came across two tools which I thought interesting and helpful if could be combined with org-export in some way. 1. Deck.js: a js lib for making modern html presentation. See http://imakewebthings.github.com/deck.js/#intro for more info. I would really like to see an exporter for this, in part because Drupal integration for deck.js is underway. Having just walked through the introduction I will say that deck appears to be the most polished of the html presentation engines I have yet seen. It would be nice to see some support for fitting html exported from Org into deck. Yes, that is why I mention it here even though there have been several html exporters already. HTML5+CSS3+JS really make deck cool.
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:14 AM, zwz zhangwe...@gmail.com wrote: Those days I came across two tools which I thought interesting and helpful if could be combined with org-export in some way. 1. Deck.js: a js lib for making modern html presentation. See http://imakewebthings.github.com/deck.js/#intro for more info. I would really like to see an exporter for this, in part because Drupal integration for deck.js is underway. Having just walked through the introduction I will say that deck appears to be the most polished of the html presentation engines I have yet seen. It would be nice to see some support for fitting html exported from Org into deck. We already have several html5 presentation modes described on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html but there are lots of html5 methods out there; here are some resources: http://slides.html5rocks.com/#landing-slide http://usepow.com/about/# http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ http://code.google.com/p/sfeir/source/browse/trunk/html5-slides/ so here are a couple of questions: - is one of these frameworks better than/easier to work with than the others? Can any of them be shared on slideshare or another archiving service? I don't know of any standout in the space of html presentation engines, and it seems to be fast-moving at the moment. - can we standardize on a feature-rich exporter Given that, it may be wiser to continue supporting Org-mode integration with as many of the engines as possible and wait to see if one naturally rises above the competition. Or, said another way, my opinion is that it may not be a good idea to try to standardize on a single html presentation engine at this time. and start building a useful interface to it (e.g., on e that allows users to specify transitions so forth in a property)? This can happen without limiting to a single exporter. - what would be the best starting point for a new exporter? Jambunathan has the generic html exporter, surely that could be a starting point? But the simple html5presentation exporter (see link above) produces pretty good presentations already. I had a very good experience using the existing html exporter to generate S5 presentations. All that was needed was a little bit of post-processing and judicious use of existing export customization options. I like this approach because it relies on existing Org-mode functionality which is known to work well, and because it does not require as much extra maintenance moving forward as would a whole new export backend. Anyway, I'm very glad to see these possibilities emerging in recent months. I'm looking forward to the end of powerpoint! If I never have to use OOo Present again it'll be too soon... here here! -- Eric Matt -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
[O] HTML5 presentations
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:14 AM, zwz zhangwe...@gmail.com wrote: Those days I came across two tools which I thought interesting and helpful if could be combined with org-export in some way. 1. Deck.js: a js lib for making modern html presentation. See http://imakewebthings.github.com/deck.js/#intro for more info. I would really like to see an exporter for this, in part because Drupal integration for deck.js is underway. We already have several html5 presentation modes described on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html but there are lots of html5 methods out there; here are some resources: http://slides.html5rocks.com/#landing-slide http://usepow.com/about/# http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ http://code.google.com/p/sfeir/source/browse/trunk/html5-slides/ so here are a couple of questions: - is one of these frameworks better than/easier to work with than the others? Can any of them be shared on slideshare or another archiving service? - can we standardize on a feature-rich exporter and start building a useful interface to it (e.g., on e that allows users to specify transitions so forth in a property)? - what would be the best starting point for a new exporter? Jambunathan has the generic html exporter, surely that could be a starting point? But the simple html5presentation exporter (see link above) produces pretty good presentations already. Anyway, I'm very glad to see these possibilities emerging in recent months. I'm looking forward to the end of powerpoint! If I never have to use OOo Present again it'll be too soon... Matt
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: Although I haven't tried it recently, conkeror just uses the XULrunner engine that Firefox is based on. So if you switch to a reasonably recent version of XULrunner, it should work. Current version from Thanks. I'll look into it. This worked for me (as root or whichever user has full control over /usr/local): cd /usr/local/lib git clone git://repo.or.cz/conkeror.git make clean make cd /usr/local/bin ln -s ../lib/conkeror/contrib/run-conkeror conkeror If you have multiple XULrunner versions installed, you can switch between them by setting the environment variable CONKEROR_XULRUNNER_VERSION appropiately. You can check which ones are installed (and properly registered) by running /usr/local/lib/conkeror/contrib/list-xulrunner-versions The number in brackets is what you need to set CONKEROR_XULRUNNER_VERSION to. In conkeror itself, check what version it runs on by doing an M-x version. With FF5 XUlrunner will also switch to version 5 apparently. HTH, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Wavetables for the Terratec KOMPLEXER: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KomplexerWaves
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. Although I haven't tried it recently, conkeror just uses the XULrunner engine that Firefox is based on. So if you switch to a reasonably recent version of XULrunner, it should work. Current version from Thanks. I'll look into it. -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 : using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.402.gdb1c.dirty)
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Juan Pechiar j...@pechiar.com writes: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 07:19:46PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. Hi, Opera 11 (OSX) seems to work OK, only that slides start to appear shifted the higher the slide number shown. (~5% left for each slide). .j. I am seeing the same thing with firefox 3.5.x. on Debian linux. -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 : using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.399.g01eb)
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Joost Kremers joostkrem...@fastmail.fm writes: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 07:19:46PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. since it's an html5 presentation, you'll need a browser with html5 support. i don't think firefox 3.6 has it, you'll need firefox 4. chrome and the latest internet explorer should also work. Thanks. I guess I'll wait until Firefox 4 hits the Debian archives. -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 : using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.399.g01eb)
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. Although I haven't tried it recently, conkeror just uses the XULrunner engine that Firefox is based on. So if you switch to a reasonably recent version of XULrunner, it should work. Current version from Firefox4 should be 2.0.1, previous one from Firefox3.6 is 1.9.2 IIRC. Debian likely keeps XULrunner2 in the experimental branch for the next two and a half years... :-) Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. Bye, Tassilo I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that.
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. Bye, Tassilo I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that. This export target seems to re-implement much of the org HTML export mechanics which is most likely the reason for the incomplete coverage of Org's large functionality. Perhaps it would be possible to change this so that it works more like org-s5, that is, so that it firsts exports using the existing html export functionality, and then simply manipulates the resulting html. Best -- Eric -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On 6/16/11 Jun 16 -2:29 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. Bye, Tassilo I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that. This export target seems to re-implement much of the org HTML export mechanics which is most likely the reason for the incomplete coverage of Org's large functionality. Perhaps it would be possible to change this so that it works more like org-s5, that is, so that it firsts exports using the existing html export functionality, and then simply manipulates the resulting html. Alternatively, would it be possible to have this behave mostly like conventional HTML export (i.e., have the org-export-current-backend be 'html), and then simply have the code that does the emitting override particular bits of the normal org-html behavior? The problem with this approach is that a side-effect of setting the org-export-current-backend to 'foo is to (require 'org-foo). This means it's difficult to make something like org-export-as-html5presentation be parasitic on org-export-as-html... I confess to not understanding how beamer and conventional latex export interact; possibly that would provide valuable precedent for this. best, r
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. Bye, Tassilo I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that. This export target seems to re-implement much of the org HTML export mechanics which is most likely the reason for the incomplete coverage of Org's large functionality. Perhaps it would be possible to change this so that it works more like org-s5, that is, so that it firsts exports using the existing html export functionality, and then simply manipulates the resulting html. I haven't looked at or tried either org-s5 or the html5 presentations. I would like to note that much of the refactoring of the html exporter is already done and is ready for prime time. I would very much like to see that my code be used for such experimentations. I will only note that the only way Free Software can thrive is by adopting an embrace and extend approach. Jambunathan K. Best -- Eric --
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On 6/16/11 Jun 16 -3:36 PM, Jambunathan K wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that. This export target seems to re-implement much of the org HTML export mechanics which is most likely the reason for the incomplete coverage of Org's large functionality. Perhaps it would be possible to change this so that it works more like org-s5, that is, so that it firsts exports using the existing html export functionality, and then simply manipulates the resulting html. I haven't looked at or tried either org-s5 or the html5 presentations. I would like to note that much of the refactoring of the html exporter is already done and is ready for prime time. I would very much like to see that my code be used for such experimentations. I will only note that the only way Free Software can thrive is by adopting an embrace and extend approach. Can you explain more about how we should proceed? Are you recommending: Your refactoring should be merged into the main branch BEFORE attempting to re-engineer org-html5presentation? Or is there something else? Also, does your re-engineering help with the problem that I cited above? I.e., the fact that org-export-current-backend is used BOTH to load the export code AND to indicate to the preprocessor how to preprocess. The problem here is that we can't make two different backends share the same preprocessing. Actually, more generally, I think the problem is that the export-preprocessor, since it doesn't have anything like methods or higher-order functions, forces us to build into each preprocessing function a big conditional based on the value of org-export-current-backend, which is cumbersome. Best, r
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/16/11 Jun 16 -3:36 PM, Jambunathan K wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes: On 6/7/11 Jun 7 -3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: I have tried the version here: https://github.com/twada/org-html5presentation.el and it does not seem to be ready for prime-time. Org-babel features don't work, and there seems to be not a clear integration with the org-export-preprocessor. See my two issues, one (not satisfactorily) closed, one open. Possibly this should be folded into contrib, so that people could cooperate on it more easily than when it lives off in a separate git repo, but it shouldn't be enabled for the unwary until it's been thoroughly exercised. Is there a tries to use all features org presentation somewhere that would serve as a good acid test for an export facility? It would be very handy to have that. This export target seems to re-implement much of the org HTML export mechanics which is most likely the reason for the incomplete coverage of Org's large functionality. Perhaps it would be possible to change this so that it works more like org-s5, that is, so that it firsts exports using the existing html export functionality, and then simply manipulates the resulting html. I haven't looked at or tried either org-s5 or the html5 presentations. I would like to note that much of the refactoring of the html exporter is already done and is ready for prime time. I would very much like to see that my code be used for such experimentations. I will only note that the only way Free Software can thrive is by adopting an embrace and extend approach. Can you explain more about how we should proceed? Are you recommending: Your refactoring should be merged into the main branch BEFORE attempting to re-engineer org-html5presentation? Or is there something else? Also, does your re-engineering help with the problem that I cited above? I.e., the fact that org-export-current-backend is used BOTH to load the export code AND to indicate to the preprocessor how to preprocess. The problem here is that we can't make two different backends share the same preprocessing. Actually, more generally, I think the problem is that the export-preprocessor, since it doesn't have anything like methods or higher-order functions, forces us to build into each preprocessing function a big conditional based on the value of org-export-current-backend, which is cumbersome. Admittedly I don't know what transformation are required by the html5 presentation mechanism, however I would think that an approach like that taken in org-export-as-s5 [1], in which the existing org-export-as-html is simply wrapped in a let-form which sets variable values uses hooks to post-process, should be the simplest and would leverage as much of the existing machinery as possible. Best -- Eric Footnotes: [1] https://github.com/eschulte/org-S5/blob/master/org-export-as-s5.el#L17 -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
I don't want to hijack this thread. Can you explain more about how we should proceed? Let us invite the author of html5 in to the discussion or let some interested party provide a patch/diff of what changes the author had done or let the body of html5 presentation be made available so that someone could look at it. AFAICS, None of the above things had happended on this thread. Flame me if my observation is wrong. org-s5 came in to being just because some interested party provided a good starting point for Eric to build upon. I would like to see something likewise happen with html5 presentation. I have been in this list for quite sometime and there have been earlier attempts at slidy integrated which weren't as successful as the recent attempt. I wonder what that teaches us? I will not answer your questions because I clearly indicated that I am a man with my own agenda and I have no understanding of the problem being discussed. Jambunathan K.
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Admittedly I don't know what transformation are required by the html5 presentation mechanism, however I would think that an approach like that taken in org-export-as-s5 [1], in which the existing org-export-as-html is simply wrapped in a let-form which sets variable values uses hooks to post-process, should be the simplest and would leverage as much of the existing machinery as possible. To strengthen my argument for the generic backend agnostic driver in org-odt branch, here are few concrete examples from org-s5. org-s5 requires an insider understanding (see [1]) of what org does in the background. Using my exporter wouldn't place such a huge responsibility on the user part. With [2] in mind, `org-export-content-div' on the current org-html.el be redefined. [3] could also be elegantly handled with the new driver. Let me re-iterate, I strongly urge that such one-off solutions be built on top of html exporter in org-odt branch. It will help make the new backend-agnostic driver evolve and more usable. Everyone would benefit. While we are on the topic of presentations, let me add that with my new exporter building a html/odt presentations along OpenOffice lines [4] would be quite easy. That is one can make a generic presentation driver out of the existing document driver. IMHO let's not fallback on hacks when elegant solutions are readily available. Let me note that I am not interested in presentations so much as to build a patch for or improve org-s5/org-html5. In effect, my argument is for embracing and extending the org-html/org-odt and help it evolve in more useful ways. ps: I recognize that org-s5 creates useful presentations and gets the job done. Footnotes: [1] Snippet of org-s5 --8---cut here---start-8--- (org-export-preprocess-hook (list (lambda () (let ((class slide)) (org-map-entries (lambda () (save-excursion (org-back-to-heading t) (when (= (car (org-heading-components)) 1) (put-text-property (point-at-bol) (point-at-eol) 'html-container-class class) --8---cut here---end---8--- [2] --8---cut here---start-8--- (lambda () (save-excursion (replace-regexp (regexp-quote div id=\content\) (let ((info `((author . ,author) (title . ,title) (date . ,(substring date 0 10) (join `(div class=\layout\ div id=\controls\!-- no edit --/div div id=\currentSlide\!-- no edit --/div div id=\header\/div div id=\footer\ ,(org-fill-template org-s5-title-string-fmt info) /div /div div class=\presentation\ ,(org-fill-template org-s5-title-page-fmt info))) --8---cut here---end---8--- [3] (lambda () (save-excursion (replace-regexp (regexp-quote div id=\table-of-contents\) div id=\table-of-contents\ class=\slide\))) [4] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Impress_Guide/Creating_slides_from_an_outline Best -- Eric Footnotes: [1] https://github.com/eschulte/org-S5/blob/master/org-export-as-s5.el#L17 --
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. This is very cool, I just added the link to the non-beamer presentation engine page on Worg. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html Best -- Eric What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. thanks, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 : using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.391.gfaccb.dirty)
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. This is very cool, I just added the link to the non-beamer presentation engine page on Worg. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html Best -- Eric What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. I've been using Firefox 4 and everything works well for me, although I've done more testing of s5 presentations than of html5 presentations. Best -- Eric -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 07:19:46PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. since it's an html5 presentation, you'll need a browser with html5 support. i don't think firefox 3.6 has it, you'll need firefox 4. chrome and the latest internet explorer should also work. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 07:19:46PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: What browser(s) are people using for this? Conkeror doesn't work well at all and iceweasel (aka firefox) 3.5.19 sort of works. Hi, Opera 11 (OSX) seems to work OK, only that slides start to appear shifted the higher the slide number shown. (~5% left for each slide). .j.
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
I just added the link to the non-beamer presentation engine page on Worg. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html The prefix non-beamer defines presentation by exclusion.[1] This could be confusing. For example, OpenDocument Presentations are non-beamer so are HTML presentations. So calling it HTML presentation would be a good idea. Better still we could have a landing page for presentations which in turn point to beamer, HTML and OpenDocument presentations. Just nitpicking, Jambunathan K. Footnotes: [1] Furthermore Non-latex users wouldn't be able to relate to beamer or latex even. --
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Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: Cool! I tested it on a much-too-long slideshow, and noticed one problem, though: each new slide appeared a little further to the left. It also works fine with complex LaTeX math. :-) The only thing that it doesn't do now and stops me from using it directly is the missing support for image scaling. I tried using #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=90% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] but the image is shown in original size which is much larger than the slide. Oh, and numbered lists show up as plain item lists. Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: Cool! I tested it on a much-too-long slideshow, and noticed one problem, though: each new slide appeared a little further to the left. It also works fine with complex LaTeX math. :-) The only thing that it doesn't do now and stops me from using it directly is the missing support for image scaling. I tried using #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=90% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] but the image is shown in original size which is much larger than the slide. Works for me - although my image is actually smaller, but I can change it's size. I really like it. Is there an example presentation, which shows all the possibilities when creating a presentation in org? Rainer Oh, and numbered lists show up as plain item lists. Bye, Tassilo -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax (F): +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com writes: Hi Rainer, The only thing that it doesn't do now and stops me from using it directly is the missing support for image scaling. I tried using #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=90% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] but the image is shown in original size which is much larger than the slide. Works for me - although my image is actually smaller, but I can change it's size. And you are really sure that you are using M-x org-export-as-html5presentation RET ? If so, you must be using a different version. There's at least the gist.github version (I use), but there are at least two forks at github, too... Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote: Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com writes: Hi Rainer, The only thing that it doesn't do now and stops me from using it directly is the missing support for image scaling. I tried using #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=90% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] but the image is shown in original size which is much larger than the slide. Works for me - although my image is actually smaller, but I can change it's size. And you are really sure that you are using M-x org-export-as-html5presentation RET Well - M-x org-export-as-html5presentation-and-open RET and then M-x org-export-as-html5presentation RET and update in the browser. ? If so, you must be using a different version. There's at least the gist.github version (I use), but there are at least two forks at github, too... I am using the one from: https://gist.github.com/509761 Org-mode version 7.5 also tried with Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.358.g5194) GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) and here is the org file I am using: #+TITLE: First #+AUTHOR: Author's name * Heading - item - sub item * Table | col | col | |-+-| | col | col | * Image #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=2% [[./51245383.jpeg]] Cheers, Rainer Bye, Tassilo -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax (F): +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com writes: The only thing that it doesn't do now and stops me from using it directly is the missing support for image scaling. I tried using #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer! width=90% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] but the image is shown in original size which is much larger than the slide. Works for me - although my image is actually smaller, but I can change it's size. I am using the one from: https://gist.github.com/509761 Ditto. Org-mode version 7.5 also tried with Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.358.g5194) I also use the latter. GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) Ok, I use the bzr trunk from yesterday. So that's a difference. I've just edebugged `org-export-html5presentation-format-image' and in the let... (let* ((caption (org-find-text-property-in-string 'org-caption src)) (attr (org-find-text-property-in-string 'org-attributes src)) ; HERE! (label (org-find-text-property-in-string 'org-label src))) ... I guess there should be something set. But the call returns nil. The same applies to #+CAPTION: This is the caption #+LABEL: img1 #+ATTR_HTML: title=Beer width=50% [[file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg]] where neither caption, label, nor attr are set. When I set point on the link in the org-file and do M-x describe-text-properties RET I get , | Text content at position 690: | | There is an overlay here: | From 686 to 731 | face hl-line | window nil | | There are text properties here: | face org-link | font-lock-multiline t | fontifiedt | help-echoLINK: file:~/Desktop/Pictures/beer-bunny.jpg | keymap [Show] | mouse-face highlight | org-no-flyspell t ` Bye, Tassilo
[O] HTML5 presentations
After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? -- Vinh
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Vinh Nguyen vinhdi...@gmail.com writes: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? Just tried it, and it's pretty cool! Easy to use and nicely looking. This is very cool, I just added the link to the non-beamer presentation engine page on Worg. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html Best -- Eric -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] HTML5 presentations
Cool! I tested it on a much-too-long slideshow, and noticed one problem, though: each new slide appeared a little further to the left. Yours, Christian On 6/7/11 8:56 PM, Vinh Nguyen wrote: After the recent org-mode to S5 discussion, I stumbled onto [these](https://gist.github.com/509761) code. It offers a way to export org files to HTML5 presentations. I think it looks quite nice. I see it being better than S5 in that no ui folder is required. What do you all think? Is it worthy of being incorporated into org-mode? -- Vinh
