Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 23:19 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
Just put I after K and the subgraph.
That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
I changed to a digraph:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
digraph {
A
B
C
utilities [label = Utility's]
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
G_ [style=invisible]
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
H
I
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A - F
B - F
C - F
A - D
utilities - resources [style=invisible]
E - F
F - K [dir = back]
F - G [dir = back]
F - H [dir = back]
F - I [dir = back]
G - G_ [style=invisible]
K - L
K - M
L - M
}
#+END_SRC
There is only one problem: I see the arrowhead with:
utilities - resources
and:
'G - G_'
Is there a way to get rid of those?
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-27 7:57 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2015-03-26 23:19 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
Just put I after K and the subgraph.
That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
I changed to a digraph:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
digraph {
A
B
C
utilities [label = Utility's]
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
G_ [style=invisible]
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
H
I
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A - F
B - F
C - F
A - D
utilities - resources [style=invisible]
E - F
F - K [dir = back]
F - G [dir = back]
F - H [dir = back]
F - I [dir = back]
G - G_ [style=invisible]
K - L
K - M
L - M
}
#+END_SRC
There is only one problem: I see the arrowhead with:
utilities - resources
and:
'G - G_'
Is there a way to get rid of those?
I found that also:
[style=invisible, arrowhead = none]
--
Cecil Westerhof
[O] How to place things differently in dot
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
be a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph {
utilities [label = Utility's]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
F -- E
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Are those things possible?
As attachment how it looks now.
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly recommend tikz ... Or perhaps ditaa. -k.
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 17:57 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com: 2015-03-26 17:07 GMT+01:00 Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com: On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly recommend tikz ... Or perhaps ditaa. It is certainly quick. I wait if they find it acceptable: if not I can always check-out tikz or ditaa. I looked at ditaa and tikz. Especially ditta is very nice. It has document and database elements, but it would also a lot more work to create and especially to maintain. So I hope my dot version is acceptable. -- Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
be a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph {
utilities [label = Utility's]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
F -- E
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Are those things possible?
As a last resort, you can edit the svg file.
hth,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 18:00 GMT+01:00 Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
be a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph {
utilities [label = Utility's]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
F -- E
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Are those things possible?
As a last resort, you can edit the svg file.
It did cross my mind, but I am afraid it is not a real option (for me).
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could be
a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
snip
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Maybe this will help although it's not a complete implementation of
what you have. The idea is to define rows and arrange your nodes into
those rows by using rank=same. Then make the row nodes and edges
invisible. It's also important to do the sequencing correctly, e.g.
in your example, if you just switch F -- E to E -- F, E will be to the
left of F as you want. But I don't know how to get the resources
subgraph to be treated as a node and thereby place it on the same row as F.
In any case, here's the current trial balloon:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph foo {
row1--row2--row3--row4 [style=invisible];
row1, row2, row3, row4 [style=invisible];
utilities [label = Utilities]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape=rectangle]
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M;}
L
M
}
{rank=same; row1 utilities A B C; }
{rank=same; row2 D E F;}
{rank=same; row3 G H I;}
{rank=same; row4 K;}
subgraph cluster_resources {
resources [label = Resources]
graph[color=red];
}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
E -- F
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
F -- K
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
--8---cut here---end---8---
HTH,
Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 17:07 GMT+01:00 Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com: On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly recommend tikz ... Or perhaps ditaa. It is certainly quick. I wait if they find it acceptable: if not I can always check-out tikz or ditaa. -- Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes: In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it. Just put I after K and the subgraph. Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
In this way I do not get an empty column.
You can make the rows be of size 0:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph foo {
row1--row2--row3--row4 [style=invis, fixedsize=true, width=0, height=0];
row1, row2, row3, row4 [style=invis, fixedsize=true, width=0, height=0];
...
--8---cut here---end---8---
Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode
could be a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
snip
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Maybe this will help although it's not a complete implementation of
what you have. The idea is to define rows and arrange your nodes into
those rows by using rank=same. Then make the row nodes and edges
invisible. It's also important to do the sequencing correctly, e.g.
in your example, if you just switch F -- E to E -- F, E will be to the
left of F as you want. But I don't know how to get the resources
subgraph to be treated as a node and thereby place it on the same row as F.
In any case, here's the current trial balloon:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph foo {
row1--row2--row3--row4 [style=invisible];
row1, row2, row3, row4 [style=invisible];
utilities [label = Utilities]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape=rectangle]
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M;}
L
M
}
{rank=same; row1 utilities A B C; }
{rank=same; row2 D E F;}
{rank=same; row3 G H I;}
{rank=same; row4 K;}
subgraph cluster_resources {
resources [label = Resources]
graph[color=red];
}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
E -- F
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
F -- K
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
--8---cut here---end---8---
I did it a little differently:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
graph {
utilities [label = Utility's]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
G_ [style=invisible]
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
E -- F
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
G -- G_ [style=invisible]
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K would
put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com writes:
In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
Just put I after K and the subgraph.
That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
It know becomes:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
graph {
A
B
C
utilities [label = Utility's]
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = Resources]
}
G
G_ [style=invisible]
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
H
I
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
utilities -- resources [style=invisible]
E -- F
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
G -- G_ [style=invisible]
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
That looks very good indeed: I think I do not need to start working with
ditaa. :-)
Everyone thanks for the help.
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
On Thursday, 26 Mar 2015 at 13:14, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could be a good idea. [...] This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be different: The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly recommend tikz ... If you do want to use dot, I have only ever managed to get what I want by changing the order in which I specify the connections and/or more use of sub-graphs. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.1, Org release_8.3beta-790-gb719c1.dirty
