Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Leo Ufimtsev lufim...@redhat.com writes: (org-drawers (quote (FURTHER_READING THEORY TASKS INFO TIP NOTE EG LINKS APPENDIX DETAILS PROPERTIES CLOCK LOGBOOK RESULTS TASKARCHIVE SOURCE TROUBLESHOOTING))) OMG ! All of them are used ? :-D, I need to consolidate some of those. Many are left overs from the distant past. Copy that ! :) My todo list is publicly viewable: leoufimtsev.github.io./org/dev.org Thank you for sharing. But below might be a more typical task. You might notice that most of my time stamps are ~30mins long. That's because I work in 30 minute time blocks (like pomodoro with 5 mins extra). Interesting approach. Kind of /off topic/ but can you tell me in what pomodoro is doing for you ? Are you the kind of person (like me) who loves to have many topic/items and gets quickly bored when spending too much time on each of them ? I use org-pomodoro with some customizations (e.g notifications upon completion, stop/continue functionality etc..). I need to learn that ! I then have a 'last week' report that shows me what I've done the week before so I can use that to make my weekly reports. This is something I'd like to produce too in order to fill my activity report for my boss. *** HOLD [[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=461616][Bug 461616 – {GTK3} Combo improvements in background/foreground for gtk3]] [ quite long todo ] Let me know if you have any questions. As I see it, you write down and clock things as much as possible. My sole question currently is: how do you think to clock things permanently ? If I look at how I do this, I kind of miss my clock-in/clock-out :) Regards -- Xavier.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Am 12.03.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 12.03.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris Hi Loris, please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps. OK, thanks. I'll have a look at that. You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not open by default when cycling. My use case: I am jumping to a headline directly from an agenda item. Tabbing on that item jumps to the headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers. Not sure why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in your setting? If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. Regards Loris Regards, Rainer Stengele Loris, you do not seem to have CLOCK entries directly under the headline Stuff, to which you are jumping to from agenda. Can you add a few CLOCK lines in drawer and simulate this and tell me if these stay closed or not directly after the jump. Regards, Rainer Stengele I was actually jumping to Fun rather that Stuff. And Fun does have a draw full of CLOCKs. What I don't have is a top-level heading in my agenda and I don't have any top-level heading which I clock into. I could test this, but I would have to tweak my setup a bit more than I can do easily at the moment. Do you think the level of the heading being jumped to makes a difference? Cheers, Loris I do not think the headline level makes a difference. So I do take this as with our settings the
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris Hi Loris, please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps. OK, thanks. I'll have a look at that. You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not open by default when cycling. My use case: I am jumping to a headline directly from an agenda item. Tabbing on that item jumps to the headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers. Not sure why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in your setting? If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. Regards Loris Regards, Rainer Stengele -- This signature is currently under construction.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
. - [X] investigate pre-launch warning messages? - [X] Seem to occur. Try running snippet without printing messages. - [X] pass criteria: - [X] All text is red on gtk2/gtk3. - [ ] weed out PRE_GTK3 and styleIsReadOnly Let me know if you have any questions. Leo Ufimtsev | Intern Software Engineer @ Eclipse Team - Original Message - From: Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im To: Leo Ufimtsev lufim...@redhat.com Cc: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:47:32 AM Subject: Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO Hello Leo, Leo Ufimtsev lufim...@redhat.com writes: I log everything into the logbook. Clocktimes, state changes, dated notes when I put an item on hold. I found it too tedious to move things around. Would you mind producing a typical TODO to see how it looks like ? This is a topic where I am not (yet) very comfortable with. I tend to put notes and so on here and there in my TODOs and my todo list is slowly going crappy :) (org-drawers (quote (FURTHER_READING THEORY TASKS INFO TIP NOTE EG LINKS APPENDIX DETAILS PROPERTIES CLOCK LOGBOOK RESULTS TASKARCHIVE SOURCE TROUBLESHOOTING))) OMG ! All of them are used ? Regards -- Xavier.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
I've been down this road before, I tried to add a hook to org-cycle to make it expand log-book drawers, but wasn't very successful in the past: http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/9743/expand-logbook-on-2nd-tab-press-hook-for-2nd-org-cycle If anyone has working hack for this, it'd be cool :-) Leo Ufimtsev | Intern Software Engineer @ Eclipse Team - Original Message - From: Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:14:09 AM Subject: Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO Loris Bennett loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de writes: If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. Only because there is no subheading under Fun: if you had one, the second tab would open it. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. This is the behaviour I would expect. -- Nick
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 12.03.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris Hi Loris, please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps. OK, thanks. I'll have a look at that. You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not open by default when cycling. My use case: I am jumping to a headline directly from an agenda item. Tabbing on that item jumps to the headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers. Not sure why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in your setting? If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. Regards Loris Regards, Rainer Stengele Loris, you do not seem to have CLOCK entries directly under the headline Stuff, to which you are jumping to from agenda. Can you add a few CLOCK lines in drawer and simulate this and tell me if these stay closed or not directly after the jump. Regards, Rainer Stengele I was actually jumping to Fun rather that Stuff. And Fun does have a draw full of CLOCKs. What I don't have is a top-level heading in my agenda and I don't have any top-level heading which I clock into. I could test this, but I would have to tweak my setup a bit more than I can do easily at the moment. Do you think the level of the heading being jumped to makes a difference? Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Am 12.03.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris Hi Loris, please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps. OK, thanks. I'll have a look at that. You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not open by default when cycling. My use case: I am jumping to a headline directly from an agenda item. Tabbing on that item jumps to the headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers. Not sure why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in your setting? If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. Regards Loris Regards, Rainer Stengele Loris, you do not seem to have CLOCK entries directly under the headline Stuff, to which you are jumping to from agenda. Can you add a few CLOCK lines in drawer and simulate this and tell me if these stay closed or not directly after the jump. Regards, Rainer Stengele
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Loris Bennett loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de writes: If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the following: * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... If I press 'tab', I get * Stuff ** Fun :LOGBOOK:... :OLDLOGS:... ** Boring If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens. If I press 'tab' a third time, the heading fold back and I get * Stuff ** Fun... ** Boring... again. I'm not sure why the second press performs no action. Only because there is no subheading under Fun: if you had one, the second tab would open it. In any case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and then press 'tab' again. So quite different from the behaviour you get. This is the behaviour I would expect. -- Nick
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris Hi Loris, please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps. You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not open by default when cycling. My use case: I am jumping to a headline directly from an agenda item. Tabbing on that item jumps to the headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers. Not sure why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in your setting? Regards, Rainer Stengele
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Hello Leo, Leo Ufimtsev lufim...@redhat.com writes: I log everything into the logbook. Clocktimes, state changes, dated notes when I put an item on hold. I found it too tedious to move things around. Would you mind producing a typical TODO to see how it looks like ? This is a topic where I am not (yet) very comfortable with. I tend to put notes and so on here and there in my TODOs and my todo list is slowly going crappy :) (org-drawers (quote (FURTHER_READING THEORY TASKS INFO TIP NOTE EG LINKS APPENDIX DETAILS PROPERTIES CLOCK LOGBOOK RESULTS TASKARCHIVE SOURCE TROUBLESHOOTING))) OMG ! All of them are used ? Regards -- Xavier.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines I use two drawers: #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to OLDLOGS. Both draws only open when I TAB on them. I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for my other time-keeping. This is mainly because the one-minute resolution of the clocking is to fine for my needs. Have you changed the clocking resolution? If so, how? Or are you just an amazingly accurate clocker? Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction.
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
My Log book drawers are hidden when entries expand. But I mapped my C-S-TAB to expand logbook drawers so I can peak into them. (see snippet below). I log everything into the logbook. Clocktimes, state changes, dated notes when I put an item on hold. I found it too tedious to move things around. Since the logbook is hidden by default, it doesn't get into the way of the rest of the task. (defun my/expand-logbook-drawer () Expand the closest logbook drawer (interactive) (search-forward :LOGBOOK:) (org-cycle) ) (global-set-key (kbd C-iso-lefttab) 'my/expand-logbook-drawer) -- Other drawer related configs: (local-set-key (kbd C-:) 'org-insert-drawer) (org-clock-into-drawer LOGBOOK) (org-log-into-drawer t) (org-drawers (quote (FURTHER_READING THEORY TASKS INFO TIP NOTE EG LINKS APPENDIX DETAILS PROPERTIES CLOCK LOGBOOK RESULTS TASKARCHIVE SOURCE TROUBLESHOOTING))) Leo Ufimtsev | Intern Software Engineer @ Eclipse Team - Original Message - From: Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:46:08 AM Subject: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines
[O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Hi! I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked time for each meeting. After a while I have lots of CLOCK lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. I started to use multiple LOGBOOK blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with clocking etc. My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK block when opening the headline (TODO). That way I could hide older entries from using screen space and instead see the text below immediately. Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? Thank you. Regards, Rainer * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] = 1:15 :END: :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] = 0:15 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] = 1:45 CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] = 1:15 CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] = 0:30 CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] = 0:45 CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] = 1:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] = 2:45 :END: - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines
Re: [O] lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO
Hi Rainer, Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de writes: Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus is on text below the CLOCK lines. ... Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to work? Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea? I don't use multiple LOGBOOKs this way, but I guess one simple solution would be moving the old LOGBOOK drawer *below* the text you want to see. By the way, my LOGBOOKs don't open when I open a headline, even if there are multiple drawers. Do you need (any of) them to open? If not, there is probably a variable you can tweak in your configuration so they stay closed, although I don't know what it is. Best, Richard