Re: [Emc-developers] Problems building in place on debian wheezy

2015-06-27 Thread Curtis Dutton
Is there an example of a config that I can work with to try and fix?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
wrote:

 On 6/25/15 12:39 PM, Curtis Dutton wrote:
  Is there a list of issues that need fixed with the joint axis work? Is it
  being considered for mainline integration eventually? Is there a list of
  issues here that needs addressed prior to integration? I've tried to
 reach
  out here to see who wants some help with it, but I get crickets

 I'm interested in merging joints_axes when it's ready.

 The main problem i know about is that it breaks configs with
 non-consecutive axes, such as lathes.


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Re: [Emc-developers] Problems building in place on debian wheezy

2015-06-27 Thread Dave Cole
Seb means that the software joints_axes does not allow a configuration 
for a lathe to operate, since lathes typically have two axes X and Z, 
but no Y axis.
There are lathe configurations (ini and hal files)  in the examples.   
You would have to go back to the joints_axes version and figure out why 
that is occurring and then fix that.

Dave


On 6/27/2015 9:50 AM, Curtis Dutton wrote:
 Is there an example of a config that I can work with to try and fix?

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
 wrote:

 On 6/25/15 12:39 PM, Curtis Dutton wrote:
 Is there a list of issues that need fixed with the joint axis work? Is it
 being considered for mainline integration eventually? Is there a list of
 issues here that needs addressed prior to integration? I've tried to
 reach
 out here to see who wants some help with it, but I get crickets
 I'm interested in merging joints_axes when it's ready.

 The main problem i know about is that it breaks configs with
 non-consecutive axes, such as lathes.


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Re: [Emc-developers] Problems building in place on debian wheezy

2015-06-27 Thread Curtis Dutton
Gotcha. I'll take a look at it.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seb means that the software joints_axes does not allow a configuration
 for a lathe to operate, since lathes typically have two axes X and Z,
 but no Y axis.
 There are lathe configurations (ini and hal files)  in the examples.
 You would have to go back to the joints_axes version and figure out why
 that is occurring and then fix that.

 Dave


 On 6/27/2015 9:50 AM, Curtis Dutton wrote:
  Is there an example of a config that I can work with to try and fix?
 
  On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
  wrote:
 
  On 6/25/15 12:39 PM, Curtis Dutton wrote:
  Is there a list of issues that need fixed with the joint axis work? Is
 it
  being considered for mainline integration eventually? Is there a list
 of
  issues here that needs addressed prior to integration? I've tried to
  reach
  out here to see who wants some help with it, but I get crickets
  I'm interested in merging joints_axes when it's ready.
 
  The main problem i know about is that it breaks configs with
  non-consecutive axes, such as lathes.
 
 
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[Emc-developers] weird error

2015-06-27 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all,

I'm running a pretty stock 2.5.4 version of LinuxCNC on my 
Bridgeport.  The only thing I have changed is to add the 
camera tab to Axis with camview.  The motion system is my 
PPMC analog velocity board set.  I have lately started 
getting following errors during slow motion.  I at first 
suspected a chip in the ballscrew, but then it started 
happening on different axes.  I lately have left Halscope 
running, hoping to trap what is going on.  Well, I finally 
got it, and it is really strange!

See http://pico-systems.com/images/false_error.png  for the 
Halscope trace.

The selected trace is in white, the X axis following error 
(pid.0.error).  Trace 4 (purple) is amp-enable, and triggers 
the capture on the falling edge.  You can see the X 
following error is quite small, and actually decreasing.  It 
is well below the following error threshold in the ini 
file.  I did get the following error on axis 0 message on 
the Axis screen.  This can happen several times during a 
machining session, seemingly at random.

Has anyone seen this before?  I have no idea what is 
happening, but clearly the PID component is not sending out 
any indication of a large following error, but whoever reads 
that and declares a following error thinks that it has!

Thanks for any insight anybody can offer!

Jon

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Re: [Emc-developers] weird error

2015-06-27 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 06/27/2015 01:44 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 I'm running a pretty stock 2.5.4 version of LinuxCNC on my 
 Bridgeport.  The only thing I have changed is to add the 
 camera tab to Axis with camview.  The motion system is my 
 PPMC analog velocity board set.  I have lately started 
 getting following errors during slow motion.  I at first 
 suspected a chip in the ballscrew, but then it started 
 happening on different axes.  I lately have left Halscope 
 running, hoping to trap what is going on.  Well, I finally 
 got it, and it is really strange!
 
 See http://pico-systems.com/images/false_error.png  for the 
 Halscope trace.
 
 The selected trace is in white, the X axis following error 
 (pid.0.error).  Trace 4 (purple) is amp-enable, and triggers 
 the capture on the falling edge.  You can see the X 
 following error is quite small, and actually decreasing.  It 
 is well below the following error threshold in the ini 
 file.  I did get the following error on axis 0 message on 
 the Axis screen.  This can happen several times during a 
 machining session, seemingly at random.

What are your [AXIS_*]FERROR and MIN_FERROR values?

Was the machine slowing down when the X axis f-errored, or was it moving
at a constant slow speed?


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Re: [Emc-developers] weird error

2015-06-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/27/2015 03:35 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
 On 06/27/2015 01:44 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 I'm running a pretty stock 2.5.4 version of LinuxCNC on my
 Bridgeport.  The only thing I have changed is to add the
 camera tab to Axis with camview.  The motion system is my
 PPMC analog velocity board set.  I have lately started
 getting following errors during slow motion.  I at first
 suspected a chip in the ballscrew, but then it started
 happening on different axes.  I lately have left Halscope
 running, hoping to trap what is going on.  Well, I finally
 got it, and it is really strange!

 See http://pico-systems.com/images/false_error.png  for the
 Halscope trace.

 The selected trace is in white, the X axis following error
 (pid.0.error).  Trace 4 (purple) is amp-enable, and triggers
 the capture on the falling edge.  You can see the X
 following error is quite small, and actually decreasing.  It
 is well below the following error threshold in the ini
 file.  I did get the following error on axis 0 message on
 the Axis screen.  This can happen several times during a
 machining session, seemingly at random.
 What are your [AXIS_*]FERROR and MIN_FERROR values?
FERROR = 0.003
MIN_FERROR = 0.005

So, the recent error before the following error tripped was 
about 50 times smaller than the MIN_FERROR limit!

 Was the machine slowing down when the X axis f-errored, or was it moving
 at a constant slow speed?
That doesn't seem to matter, but probably at a constant 
speed most of the time.
It has happened 5 more times today, I have more Halscope 
shots, but they don't really give additional information.


Jon

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