RE: shielded data cables
J. Benary, You use shielded data cables when you don't pass EMC with unshielded data cables. There are no standards that say you must use them. However, there are many books, magazine articles, and various lectures on EMC that provide you design guidelines under what conditions shielded cables can improve your EMC performance. Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Communications Applications Group -- From: Price, Ed [SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:00 AM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Cc: 'j.benary' Subject: FW: shielded data cables Posted for j.benary [jben...@netvision.net.il]: :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 619-505-2780 (Voice) 619-505-1502 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) -Original Message- From: j.benary [SMTP:jben...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:17 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: shielded data cables Need information about shielded data cables. are there any standards, specifications. when it is must to use?. thanks. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Temperature Measuring of Magnetic Components
Hello EMC-PSTCers, I wonder if anyone knows of the method of measuring temperature limits on magnetic components. I happen to get involved in this and found that my results are different than the vendors result by as much as 10-15 degrees on measuring on a same magnetic component. Even applying the thermocouple to different location on a coil seems to give you different results. Is there a method that I should be following to measure temperature with thermocouples methods, not change of resistance, on magnetic parts such as transformers, coils, etc.? Thanks, *** Kamran Mohajer DSL Compliance Lead Cisco Systems, Inc. Phone(408)-525-6121 Fax(408)527-0495 kmoha...@cisco.com *** - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Concrete as an insulator??? -- and now FCC/FAA
If I'm not mistaken, there IS an FAA regulation prohibiting the use of cell phones in airplanes -- I have the regs at home and will look it up. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com -Original Message- From: miksher...@aol.com [SMTP:miksher...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:13 AM To: gmcintu...@packetengines.com; ed.pr...@cubic.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Concrete as an insulator??? In a message dated 8/23/1999 5:05:26 PM Central Daylight Time, gmcintu...@packetengines.com writes: Does anybody know why the FCC - not the FAA has regulations against using a cell phone in a private airplane. It is a little more obvious for a commercial airplane that use the fuselage as a return path from various equipment bays but private plans aren't wire that way - I don't think. There was a comment made that it interferes with the Cell system in some manner, any clues? Stated reason I've always heard, and which makes sense to me: one triggers multiple cells once one is airborne, which messes up a system that is designed to hand off a call cell to cell, based on signal strength and an assumption that the phone is on the ground. Mike Sherman FSI International - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Concrete as an insulator???
Don, In this instance we are operating in the range from 200-800 kHz; the output is used in a plasma process and so after ignition it will be from 800V to possibly 1500V depending on the chemistries. The concrete idea was going to be used for mounting purposes and also as a coil form. The engineer found that the permeability and dielectric constant was okay for his application (there's a couple of parameters no one brought up in this thread so far). For his purposes this engineer views the concrete as nearly non-permeable and almost equivalent to an air-core inductor. The windings need to carry several hundred amps of peak current at the resonant switching frequency. The concrete inductor core is similar to a torus with a major diameter of about 12-14 and a minor diameter of about 4. The winding are wrapped with 4 flat braid in sleeving. It just seems that there should be another substance that is more suited to the application without getting into a lot of expense. Don't know if this changes the discussion but it will be interesting to see what else comes out of this thread. -doug === Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. 1625 Sharp Point Dr. Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 USA --- 970-407-6410 (phone) 970-407-5410 (e-fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com http://www.advanced-energy.com === -Original Message- From: Don Diego [mailto:zorro_1...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 5:34 PM To: Egon H. Varju; EMC-PSTC Subject: RE: Concrete as an insulator??? Doug, It sounds to me like this may be a good time to supply more information to the group. High power, 200 kW, at what frequency? Are we talking 13.56 MHz, 27.12 MHz, 40.68 MHz or are we discussing 18 GHz? Just thought that this may change the discussion a tad. --- Egon H. Varju e...@varju.bc.ca wrote: Just to add a bit of trivia to this discussion, concrete increases substantially in conductivity in the presence of ionizing radiation (x-rays, gamma rays). This is well known and documented in the nuclear hardening community. This is an indication of an inherent population of free charge carriers in concrete (be they water-based, or other). Hmm ... So, not only will we have to keep the garden hose away from that 200 kW power supply, but it may also need a warning label: FOR USE ONLY IN NUCLEAR-FREE ZONES. Egon :-) __ Egon H. Varju, PEng E.H. Varju Associates Ltd. North Vancouver, Canada Tel: 1 604 985 5710 HAVE MODEM Fax: 1 604 273 5815 WILL TRAVEL E-mail: e...@varju.bc.ca var...@csa.ca __ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: PC Power Supply w/ PFC
John, Try Nemic Lambda, Israel. I am sure they or one of their subsidiary cmpanies around the world can help you out. If you need specific names of people, let me know. John, When you find one, post the vendor here on the list. -we looked for one also, but with ATX wiring, and could not find one that had international compliance. The vendor is Sunpower model SAP 6300P. It is CE marked and specifically marked with 'passes harmonics' and standard, but there is no international compliance markings (or UL). The vendor is aware of the harmonics issue. I don't have a model number for the straight pc version supply. I have tested this supply and I can tell you it is much cleaner than the non-pfc counterpart. Since I had to probe this supply with thermocouples for the heating test, I examined the innards and saw that the PFC circuitry is actually a module and is more of an optional upgrade. The case of the supply was not intended for this upgrade, but the circuit board of the supply did have a connector where the PFC module wiring was connected. The mounting of the module was a bit ad hoc. Interestingly, the vendor offered to upgrade the other supplies we had on hand in the lab. Kyle -Original Message- From: John Radomski [SMTP:john_radom...@inter-tel.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 12:34 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:PC Power Supply w/ PFC We are looking for a supplier of 300 Watt PS2, PC power supplies that have PFC (Power Correction Factor). Here is the spec: It must comply with: EN 60950 (safety approval required), EN 50082-1, EN 61000-3-2/3, CISPR 22 (or EN 55022). REQUIRED RATED INPUT: 220-240VAC, 50-60Hz, 3.5A (auto ranging power supplies with input ratings from 100VAC, are accepted) OUTPUT: +5VDC 30A; -5VDC 0.5A; +12VDC 12A; -12VDC 0.5A John Radomski Compliance Engineer Inter-Tel Integrated Systems, Chandler, Arizona, USA john_radom...@inter-tel.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). PETER S. MERGUERIAN MANAGING DIRECTOR PRODUCT TESTING DIVISION I.T.L. (PRODUCT TESTING) LTD. HACHAROSHET 26, P.O.B. 211 OR YEHUDA 60251, ISRAEL TEL: 972-3-5339022 FAX: 972-3-5339019 E-MAIL: pe...@itl.co.il Visit our Website: http://www.itl.co.il - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
FW: shielded data cables
Posted for j.benary [jben...@netvision.net.il]: :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 619-505-2780 (Voice) 619-505-1502 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) -Original Message- From: j.benary [SMTP:jben...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:17 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: shielded data cables Need information about shielded data cables. are there any standards, specifications. when it is must to use?. thanks. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Fixed Installation
Per EN 60950 and UL 1950, Section 1.2.3. If it requires a tool to move it then it is considered fixed equipment. If the equipment has wheels and can be moved by the user without using tools then it is considered movable equipment. From your description below it sounds like you have fixed equipment. Mike Campi -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:56 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Fixed Installation I have questions concerning a manufacturing system. The system comprises of about a dozen pieces of integrated equipment that take up about 12 x 6 x 6 meters and it has a total continuous current draw of 250 kilowatts (408, 3-phase). The equipment will not be sold and only used internally within the same company that is the manufacturer. It is the first of a very limited number of systems (roughly 5). My first impression is that this system can be considered a fixed installation under the EMC Directive and therefore is exempt from the EMC Directive (at least that's my interpretation of section 6.5 of the Guidelines on the EMC Directive). However, after a year or so, the system may be torn down, shipped to a different manufacturing facility within the same company and reassembled. First of all, am I correct in considering this a fixed installation? And does it remain a fixed installation even if it is moved? Does it fall under the EMC Directive? Does it require a TCF? Or should I only be concerned with emission levels in situ? - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
EMC Testing of Equipment Built In-House
About a week ago one of the participants on this mailing list asked whether equipment built in-house, for a company's internal use, had to be safety and electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) tested. I just started reading Tim Williams' book EMC for Product Designers (second edition) this morning, and on page 15 came across the following statement under Scope, requirements, and exceptions for EMC Directive 89/336/EEC: Taken into service Taking into service means the first use of a product in the EU by its final user. If the product is used without being placed on the market, if for example the manufacturer is also the end user, then the protective requirements of the Directive still apply. This means that sanctions are still available in each member state to prevent the product from being used if it does not comply with the essential requirements or if it causes an actual or potential interference problem. On the other hand, it should not need to go through the conformity assessment procedures to demonstrate compliance (article 10, which describes these procedures, makes no mention of taking into service). Thus an item of special test gear built up by a lab technician for use within the campany's design department must still be designed and installed so as not to cause or suffer from interference, but should not need to follow the procedure for aplying the CE mark. John Barnes Advisory Engineer Lexmark International - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
GeldKarte Approval
Hello everyone, Does anyone out there have any experience with cashless approvals in Germany? We have a product that may (or may not) need GeldKarte approval for use in the German market. All the specifications I have been able to get are in German, and the translations do not make it clear if we need approval or not. Help! Many thanks, Carlos Perkins Compliance Manager - MEI - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Resend: IEC65 or IEC950 ?
Hi, This is a resend . Wonder does any one has the answer. Thanks in advance ! Hi, I have been troubled by some standard issue and sincerely hope that someone could share their experience with me. My company is selling multimedia products which is classified as Information Technology Equipment(I.T.E.). We used to OEM AC/DC adapter to be bundled with our I.T.E. products. So happen that one of the vendor tested his China AC/DC power adapter to GB8898(which is equivalent to IEC65) rather than GB4943(equivalent to IEC950) My doubts are : 1) Can I still declare my product as I.T.E., if it is bundled with adapter tested to GB8898(IEC 65) rather than GB4943(IEC950) ? 2) Will there be any legal issue that I may face by using IEC65 tested adapter for I.T.E. products ? 3) Wonder is the testing criteria of IEC65 more stringent than IEC950 ? Thanks in advance ! Jess - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Equipment Produced in Series
PSNet, et al, Again we get into wordsmithing... It's pretty simple... Equipment is either custom made, one-at-a-time, or multiple copies are made... If you make one-of-a-kind custom machines you need to fully test each machine for compliance since there is no other machine made which can represent this machine... If you make more than one of each machine then you are series manufacturing and you only need to type test to show compliance... Seems to me that you would want to claim series manufacturing, if possible, to simplify the certification testing needed... - - - - - Peter E Perkins Principal Product Safety Consultant Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 +1/503/452-1201 phone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org email visit our website: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/peperkins - - - - - - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Medium pressure mercury lamps
Hi all EMC experts, We are going to test a new product for EMC within short. The product is equipped with one or more UV-lamps Medium pressure mercury lamps Does anybody have any experience in these lamps? Will they generate any EMC-emissions? Thanks in advance for any info! Janne Engstrom - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
FW: Equipment Produced in Series
Our interpretation of series produced equipment is that of bulk manufactured units where the CISPR 80-80 rule applies. It could generally be Group 1/2 Class A/B bulk produced lab meters, household/light commercial medical diagnostic gear etc. Equipment not produced in series could imply (say Group 2 Class A) heavy industry items such as massive industrial induction/microwave ovens, billet heaters etc which are unique contract jobs, which will probably never be tested on a test site, but because of the complexities of the installation will be tested in situ. These are the types of jobs where one forgets about the use of LISNs and shudders at the thought of using a HV probe. Cost of such stringent EMC testing will almost inevitably be built into the contract. Regards Arun Kaore EMC Engineer ADI Limited Systems Group Test Evaluation Centre Forrester Road, St Marys NSW 2760 P O Box: 315, St Marys NSW 1790 Tel: 61 2 9673 8375 Fax: 61 2 9673 8321 Email: kao...@sg.adi-limited.com.au mailto:kao...@sg.adi-limited.com.au -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com mailto:rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] mailto:[mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 August, 1999 6:19 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org mailto:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Equipment Produced in Series CISPR 11 talks about .equipment produced in series.. Has anyone seen a definition of what equipment produced in series actually means? Is there a time period involved? Does it have to be produced daily, weekly, or monthly? Is a batch of 10 pieces of equipment produced once a year produced in series? Does it have to be made on an assembly line? The reason I ask is that CISPR 11 goes on to say All equipment not produced in series shall be tested on an individual basis. If it is not produced in series then every one made must be tested. What is equipment NOT produced in series? - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Concrete as an insulator???
Doug, It sounds to me like this may be a good time to supply more information to the group. High power, 200 kW, at what frequency? Are we talking 13.56 MHz, 27.12 MHz, 40.68 MHz or are we discussing 18 GHz? Just thought that this may change the discussion a tad. --- Egon H. Varju e...@varju.bc.ca wrote: Just to add a bit of trivia to this discussion, concrete increases substantially in conductivity in the presence of ionizing radiation (x-rays, gamma rays). This is well known and documented in the nuclear hardening community. This is an indication of an inherent population of free charge carriers in concrete (be they water-based, or other). Hmm ... So, not only will we have to keep the garden hose away from that 200 kW power supply, but it may also need a warning label: FOR USE ONLY IN NUCLEAR-FREE ZONES. Egon :-) __ Egon H. Varju, PEng E.H. Varju Associates Ltd. North Vancouver, Canada Tel: 1 604 985 5710 HAVE MODEM Fax: 1 604 273 5815 WILL TRAVEL E-mail: e...@varju.bc.ca var...@csa.ca __ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Question on top 6 frequencies
Yes, Charles you are basically correct. At the USCEL meeting both Art Wall and Don Hariman further clarified the proper interpretation of ANSI C63.4 by re-stating that a full investigation must be performed on the final site and this site must meet NSA. However, this clarification is just that, a clarification. It is NOT a changed in ANSI C63.4 nor a revision of ANSI C63.4. It was also stated that individuals, labs or manufactures whom have chosen to used the frequency list method in the past can not used this clarification as a justification to their accreditation for practicing the frequency list method in the past. I personally hope this clarification will help level the playing field by forcing labs to follow the standards they are accredited to follow and test to the intent of standard instead of looking for short cuts that compromise the quality of the measurement. Their are many labs out their and I can only hope this will separate the labs that are serious about EMC from the labs that are compromising the creditability of our industry. Mark Darula CKC Laboratories NW Regional Manager 503 693-3543 http://www.ckc.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles (Chaz) Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 7:33 PM To: 'EMC Group' Subject: Question on top 6 frequencies Hello... I need a rumor confirmed or quashed. I have heard that at a recent USCEL meeting in Seattle, the existing procedure of reporting only the top 6 freqs is no longer considered acceptable. Can any one confirm this? Thank you Charles Grasso StorageTek 2270 Sth 88th Street Louisville CO 80027 Tel: (303)673-2908 Fax(303)661-7115 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Canadian language requirements
Hi Mat, One source for such information would be the Canadian Consumer Packaging and Labelling Act. Its C-38 and cost about USD$5.00, if memory serves. As the name implies, it deals with product labeling, including languages. You can order it from the Canada Communication Group, tel: 819-956-4802. Or, it can also be downloaded off of the internet at: http://canada.justice.gc.ca/FTP/EN/Laws/Title/C/index.html (look for C-38) Start with Section 6, BILINGUAL REQUIREMENTS AND EXEMPTIONS. I'm sure you'll find what you need in there. However, as with all government documents, its filled with legalese. Please keep in mind that product marking is ultimately the manufacturer's responsibility. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com Aschenberg, Mat Matt.Aschenberg@echostTo: Emc-Pstc (E-mail) emc-p...@ieee.org ar.comcc: Sent by: Subject: Canadian language requirements owner-emc-pstc@majordom o.ieee.org 08/23/99 09:40 AM Please respond to Aschenberg, Mat Where can I find the language requirements for Canada? Is there a website that would have the legal documentation on it? Is it true that all product markings must be in french, and english to be sold in Quebec? Mathew Aschenberg Agency Engineering EchoStar Technologies Corporation 90 Inverness Circle East Englewood, CO 80112 (303) 706-5064 (303) 799-6406 (Fax) - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Concrete Problems
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