NEW LOCATION FOR THE S.E.E.C FAQ

2001-09-01 Thread Bill Lyons


 NEW LOCATION FOR THE S.E.E.C FAQ

This is to remind you that, as from today, the new location of the
s.e.e.c FAQ Sources of EMC  Safety Compliance Information is:

 http://users.metro2000.net/~purwinc/compliance_faq.htm

All those who have bookmarked the previous URL, or maintain a link to it,
please amend to the above address immediately.

The maintainer and web host is:

 Charles Purwin purw...@nhinternet.com

The Japanese-language version, hosted by Tom Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp, 
will continue at: 

 http://member.nifty.ne.jp/tsato/seec-faq

As previously announced the FAQ is now purely web-based and the monthly 
posting to s.e.e.c has ceased.

Regards to all,

Bill

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Bill Lyons - b...@lyons.demon.co.uk / w.ly...@ieee.org


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RE: EN 61000-3-3

2001-09-01 Thread Scott Lacey
EN 61000-3-3Josh,
EN 61000-3-3 only mentions voltage fluctuations and flicker impressed on the
public low-voltage system. Inrush current is not specifically measured,
although it certainly affects the amount of voltage variation caused by the
Equipment Under Test (EUT).

To perform the test a controlled impedance (reference network of Fig. 1) is
inserted between the ac source and the EUT. The unit is then operated
normally while the voltage at the EUT input is monitored. What the test
measures is the difference between the source voltage and the EUT input
caused by the operation of the EUT. Washing machines and dishwashers may
cause particularly nasty flicker because of solenoid valves and motor
starting currents.

EN 61000-4-11 does mention peak inrush current in regard to qualifying the
ac source. The source must be capable of supplying more inrush current then
the EUT peak inrush current (30% reserve). However, you would only need to
test to EN 61000-4-11 if the appliance had electronic controls (as many do
today).

Although it may be possible to measure EUT peak inrush current and
extrapolate the results, this would not comply with the requirements of EN
61000-3-3. Once the reference network is aquired (or built) the test is
pretty straightforward.

Best Regards,
Scott Lacey
Test Engineer (contract)
EMC, Safety, Performance Verification
  -Original Message-
  From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Wiseman
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:04 PM
  To: Emc-Pstc (E-mail)
  Subject: EN 61000-3-3


  Hi all,

  I have recently heard of a requirement in the Flicker standard for In
Rush current measurements.

  My understanding of the test is that the EUT is manually turned on and off
24 times. During these times dmax is measured. You then take the highest and
lowest readings and throw them out. You then average the remaining 22
readings.

  This has been posed to me from a customer and I can not find any
supporting information other than the fact that some test equipment
manufacturers are beginning to implement the testing capability in their
systems.

  Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
for all the help.

  Regards,
  Josh



RE: Medical application-Isolation voltage

2001-09-01 Thread Scott Lacey

Ron,

You will probably have a hard time finding a converter suitable for this
application. Most medical devices are either (if low current draw) battery
operated or use a medical grade line-frequency transformer. In the latter
case they will also use a medical grade (low leakage) line cord. These have
fillers that reduce capacitance between wires.

The transformers are often of toroidal construction. Many manufacurers will
make these as either 1:1 or stepdown types. Using a 1:1 in front of an ac-dc
converter would not be very cost effective.

Another possibility may be to use a rechargeable battery with a high
isolation relay to switch between charge and operate. You could then use an
ac-dc of lower rating to recharge the battery. This is a good compromise for
equipment of medium current draw/short patient contact time. Without knowing
the particulars of your situation I cannot give more specific advice.

Best Regards,
Scott Lacey
Test Engineer (contract)
EMC, Safety, Performance Verification

-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:26 AM
To: EMC
Subject: Medical application-Isolation voltage



I have a medical application that requires double insulation from the
Mains to an applied part according to IEC60601.  IEC60601 states that for
a reference voltage of 250v and double insulation, the test voltage is 4000v
for 1 min.  I am assuming that the voltages are RMS values.

How does one go about meeting the 4000v test when the highest rated ac-dc
converter I can find is 3500v RMS  continuous.

Any help is appreciated.
 Thanks.




Ronald Cyprowski
Vascor Inc.
566 Alpha Drive
Pittsburgh PA 15238
412-963-7438 x139
r...@vascor.com


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