RE: Power Plugs

2001-10-08 Thread Geoff Lister

I am a UK resident with a holiday bolt-hole in the south of
France. When I take UK electrical items to share my enjoyment
of good food, wine and sunshine, I prefer to cut off the moulded 
UK plug and then fit a rewireable French plug. It's much safer than 
using a bunch of travel adaptors. I still have a couple of 4-block 
extension leads with UK sockets and a French plug for those plug-top 
power supplies which defy modification. I also have a reciprocal set-up
for powering French sourced equipment in the UK.

In the absence of rewireable plugs, I would be forced to use cut-off
moulded plugs with a few inches/centimetres of lead and make the
connection using a chock-block and insulating tape. I much prefer
the strain relief clamp and logical connection system which has been
available for many decades in rewireable plugs. If these plugs are
about to become an endangered species, I will either have to stock
up with a lifetime's supply soon, or get a job lot of kettle leads and
IEC320 receptacles.

I think that it's a good idea for all electrical equipment to be supplied
with the plug already fitted, moulded or otherwise, but with the
steady increase in international travel, a rewireable plug is still
safer than a lash-up.

My opinion etc.

Geoff Lister
Senior Engineer
Motion Media Technology Ltd.,
Bristol, UK.
http://www.motion-media.com 


-Original Message-
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 08 October 2001 12:03
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Power Plugs



I read in !emc-pstc that Allen, John 
wrote (in <999c839e7e27d41185ec00d0b7473692024cd...@norway.int.rdel.co.u
k>) about 'Power Plugs', on Mon, 8 Oct 2001:
>
>HI Folks
>
>Over  the last few years I have had very little difficulty in buying
>rewireable mains plugs in high-street shops in Greece, Crete, Turkey and
>France - and, of course, the UK!!
>
>John Allen
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com]
>Sent: 07 October 2001 22:44
>To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
>Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: Power Plugs
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi John:
>
>
>>   Not to Continental countries, AIUI, because rewirable plugs are not
>>   available (maybe in Denmark still). 
>
>Oh?  In April, 2001, I bought a re-wirable plug in Grenoble,
>France, at a major chain store.  They had a nice selection!
>
>
>Best regards,
>Rich

Greece and Turkey don't come as a surprise: control is not so effective
in those countries. And who would dare to predict what *actually*
happens in France, compared with what everyone *says* happens? (;-)

I will ask at the TC92 meeting next week what actually happens in
various countries.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk

Eat mink and be dreary!

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Comments about Surge Equipment

2001-10-08 Thread Gunter_J_Maass

List

I would like to have your opinions about Surge and Ring Wave Generators,
regarding their quality and reliability

These are some models that I am focusing:

- Keytek ECAT - modules E501A, E503 and E551.

- EM Test UCS500M/6-SUR with RWG500M/6

Any good or bad comments and stories about these generators will be
welcome.

Suggestions about others equipment for surge and ring wave test are also of
interest.

Thanks and a nice week.

Günter J. Maass
EMBRACO S.A.



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Re: ESD simulators

2001-10-08 Thread Andrew Carson

I have a Haefely PESD1600, preprogrammed with the 61000-4-2 test levels and as 
a real bonus, it looks like a ray gun !

"Pommerenke, David" wrote:

> I like to compile a list of all commercially available ESD simualtors for
> system level tests to 61000-4-2:
>
> In my list I have:
>
>KeyTek Minizap
>KeyTek KeyTek 2000
>
>Schaffner  435
>Schaffner  432
>
>EM-TestESD-30c
>EM-TestESD unit to universal tester UCS 500
>
>EMC-partner  TRA 2000
>
>Hotek Tech  ESDC - 30
>
>Haefely SESD 200 ESD SIMULATOR SYSTEM
>
> Is anyone aware of other models ?
>
> Thanks
>
> David Pommerenke
> Associate Professor
> Electromagnetic Compatibility Laboratory
> ECE Department
> University of Missouri-Rolla
> 1870 Miner Circle
> Rolla, MO 65409-0040
>
> pommere...@ece.umr.edu
> Phone: (573) 341-4531
> Home:  (573) 341 5835
> FAX:   (573) 341-4532
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RE: 60950-1

2001-10-08 Thread Peter Tarver

Brian -

CSA/UL60950, Third Edition, has no "date of withdrawal" yet
set.  It is presently anticipated that CSA/UL60950-1 will be
issued sometime in Q1 or Q2 of 2003.

Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina Homologation Services
peter.tar...@sanmina.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian McAuliffe
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:28 AM
>
>
> The IEC claim that IEC 60950-1 Ed 1.0 will be
> issued on Nov 15 2001.
>
> Can somebody advise what the status of EN and UL
> 60950-1 Ed 1.0 are i.e.
> what will the DOP and DOW be for both of these.
> In essence what I'm asking
> is how long can one contine to use EN/UL 60950
> 3rd Ed. as a basis for CE and
> UL marking ??
>
>
> Brian McAuliffe
>


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RE: ESD simulators

2001-10-08 Thread UMBDENSTOCK

David,

Another manufacturer is

NoiseKen,  up to +/- 30,000V, air and contact mode
Models
ESS-2000
ESS-2001

www.noiseken.com

Regards,

Don Umbdenstock
Sensormatic

> --
> From: Pommerenke, David[SMTP:davi...@ece.umr.edu]
> Reply To: Pommerenke, David
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 10:14 AM
> To:   emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject:  ESD simulators
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I like to compile a list of all commercially available ESD simualtors for
> system level tests to 61000-4-2:
> 
> In my list I have:
> 
>KeyTek Minizap
>KeyTek KeyTek 2000
>  
>Schaffner  435 
>Schaffner  432
>  
>EM-TestESD-30c
>EM-TestESD unit to universal tester UCS 500
> 
>EMC-partner  TRA 2000
> 
>Hotek Tech  ESDC - 30
> 
>Haefely SESD 200 ESD SIMULATOR SYSTEM
> 
> 
> Is anyone aware of other models ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David Pommerenke
> Associate Professor 
> Electromagnetic Compatibility Laboratory
> ECE Department
> University of Missouri-Rolla
> 1870 Miner Circle
> Rolla, MO 65409-0040
> 
> pommere...@ece.umr.edu
> Phone: (573) 341-4531
> Home:  (573) 341 5835
> FAX:   (573) 341-4532
> 
> 
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Re: ESD simulators

2001-10-08 Thread Kristiaan . Carpentier



David,
We have PSD25B equipment from HEAFELY.
Best regards,

Kris Carpentier

Environmental, EMC & Safety laboratory
Fr. Wellesplein 1
2018 Antwerpen
Belgium
tel: +32 (3) 240 7986
fax: +32 (3) 240 9933
email: kristiaan.carpent...@alcatel.be

visit our web-site at www.alcatel.be/testlab




"Pommerenke, David"  on 08/10/2001 16:14:08

Please respond to "Pommerenke, David" 
  
  
  
 To:  emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
  
 cc:  (bcc: Kristiaan CARPENTIER/BE/ALCATEL)  
  
  
  
 Subject: ESD simulators  
  








I like to compile a list of all commercially available ESD simualtors for
system level tests to 61000-4-2:

In my list I have:

   KeyTek Minizap
   KeyTek KeyTek 2000

   Schaffner  435
   Schaffner  432

   EM-TestESD-30c
   EM-TestESD unit to universal tester UCS 500

   EMC-partner  TRA 2000

   Hotek Tech  ESDC - 30

   Haefely SESD 200 ESD SIMULATOR SYSTEM


Is anyone aware of other models ?

Thanks

David Pommerenke
Associate Professor
Electromagnetic Compatibility Laboratory
ECE Department
University of Missouri-Rolla
1870 Miner Circle
Rolla, MO 65409-0040

pommere...@ece.umr.edu
Phone: (573) 341-4531
Home:  (573) 341 5835
FAX:   (573) 341-4532



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EFT Testing and Common Pitfalls, Meeting Notice, Santa Clara Valley EMC Society Chapter

2001-10-08 Thread Hans Mellberg

Meeting notice for TUESDAY, October 9th at SGI in Mountain View. 

Social begins at 5:30pm and presentation at 7:00pm

Please visit our website for full details including map.

www.scvemc.org

EFT Testing and Common Pitfalls, Meeting Notice, Santa Clara Valley EMC Society
Chapter

By: Doug Smith

Details:
  - Doug Smith, will cover the background of EFT testing (IEC 61000- 4- 4) w 
along
with common pitfalls. Doug will also share some tips on the testing process. 
Doug
believes that all talks should have some entertainment value and this talk is 
not an
exception. War stories and demonstrations will be used throughout the talk.

One of these covers a common mistake that some testing labs make that can nearly
double the stress on the EUT. If you have an EFT Burst Generator what do you do 
with
it when it is not being used (probably most of the time unless you work for a 
test
lab)? Doug will cover some test / debug techniques using an EFT generator that 
have
nothing to do with EFT, such as solving ESD problems and measuring noise 
margins at
the PWB and circuit trace level.

Mr. Smith held an FCC First Class Radiotelephone license by age 16 and a General
Class amateur radio license at age 12. He received a B.E.E.E. degree from 
Vanderbilt
University in 1969 and an M.S.E.E. degree from the California Institute of
Technology in 1970. In 1970, he joined AT&T Bell Laboratories as a Member of
Technical Staff. He retired in 1996 as a Distinguished Member of Technical 
Staff.
>From February 1996 to April 2000 he was Manager of EMC Development and Test at
Auspex Systems in Santa Clara, CA. Mr. Smith currently is an independent 
consultant
specializing in high frequency measurements, circuit/system design and 
verification,
switching power supply noise and specifications, EMC, and immunity to transient
noise. He is a Senior Member of the IEEE and a member of the IEEE EMC Society 
Board
of Directors. 

His technical interests include high frequency effects in electronic circuits,
including topics such as Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC), Electrostatic
Discharge (ESD), Electrical Fast Transients (EFT), and other forms of pulsed
electromagnetic interference. He also has been involved with FCC Part 68 
testing and
design, telephone system analog and digital design, IC design, and computer
simulation of circuits. He has been granted over 15 patents, several on 
measurement
apparatus. 

Mr. Smith has lectured at Vanderbilt University, AT&T Bell Labs, and at many 
public
and private seminars on high frequency measurements, circuit design, ESD, and 
EMC.
He is author of the book High Frequency Measurements and Noise in Electronic
Circuits and is currently working on his second book. 





=
Best Regards
Hans Mellberg
Regulatory Compliance & EMC Design Services Consultant
By the Pacific Coast next to Silicon Valley,
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
408-507-9694

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ESD simulators

2001-10-08 Thread Pommerenke, David



I like to compile a list of all commercially available ESD simualtors for
system level tests to 61000-4-2:

In my list I have:

   KeyTek Minizap
   KeyTek KeyTek 2000
 
   Schaffner  435 
   Schaffner  432
 
   EM-TestESD-30c
   EM-TestESD unit to universal tester UCS 500

   EMC-partner  TRA 2000

   Hotek Tech  ESDC - 30

   Haefely SESD 200 ESD SIMULATOR SYSTEM


Is anyone aware of other models ?

Thanks

David Pommerenke
Associate Professor 
Electromagnetic Compatibility Laboratory
ECE Department
University of Missouri-Rolla
1870 Miner Circle
Rolla, MO 65409-0040

pommere...@ece.umr.edu
Phone: (573) 341-4531
Home:  (573) 341 5835
FAX:   (573) 341-4532



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Re: Power Plugs

2001-10-08 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that Allen, John 
wrote (in <999c839e7e27d41185ec00d0b7473692024cd...@norway.int.rdel.co.u
k>) about 'Power Plugs', on Mon, 8 Oct 2001:
>
>HI Folks
>
>Over  the last few years I have had very little difficulty in buying
>rewireable mains plugs in high-street shops in Greece, Crete, Turkey and
>France - and, of course, the UK!!
>
>John Allen
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com]
>Sent: 07 October 2001 22:44
>To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
>Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: Power Plugs
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi John:
>
>
>>   Not to Continental countries, AIUI, because rewirable plugs are not
>>   available (maybe in Denmark still). 
>
>Oh?  In April, 2001, I bought a re-wirable plug in Grenoble,
>France, at a major chain store.  They had a nice selection!
>
>
>Best regards,
>Rich

Greece and Turkey don't come as a surprise: control is not so effective
in those countries. And who would dare to predict what *actually*
happens in France, compared with what everyone *says* happens? (;-)

I will ask at the TC92 meeting next week what actually happens in
various countries.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk 
Eat mink and be dreary!

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RE: Power Plugs

2001-10-08 Thread Allen, John

HI Folks

Over  the last few years I have had very little difficulty in buying
rewireable mains plugs in high-street shops in Greece, Crete, Turkey and
France - and, of course, the UK!!

John Allen

-Original Message-
From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com]
Sent: 07 October 2001 22:44
To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Power Plugs





Hi John:


>   Not to Continental countries, AIUI, because rewirable plugs are not
>   available (maybe in Denmark still). 

Oh?  In April, 2001, I bought a re-wirable plug in Grenoble,
France, at a major chain store.  They had a nice selection!


Best regards,
Rich




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