Re: Safety testing after equipment repair

[Barry Esmore]

Australia has an actual standard which lists the tests and procedures for the
regular testing of equipment in use, and equipment that has been repaired. I
believe the standard is compulsory for building sites.
 
Regards
Barry Esmore
 
AUS-TICK
281 Lawrence Rd
Mount Waverley
Vic  3149
Australia
 
Ph: 61 3 9886 1345
Fax: 61 3 9884 7272

- Original Message - 
From: richwo...@tycoint.com 
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:46 AM
Subject: Safety testing after equipment repair


Management is asking me if we really need to perform certain safety
inspections and tests after the equipment is repaired. Of course, the answer
is that the inspections and/or tests are a prudent action to ensure
continued safety of the product. Then they ask "Does anyone else do it?"
Good question.  Here is what we do. We intentionally tried to minimize the
amount of inspections and testing. The protocol consists of certain visual
inspections for such things as damaged insulation and missing fasteners; and
a hypot test is specified only if the safety critical part being changed
would be stressed by the test.

So, let me pose the question - Does your company perform specified safety
inspections and/or tests after repair of mains circuits?

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International



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Re: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement

[SIEMIC PSTC]

Hello, Sylvia,
 
You do not need to put any number in the BSMI statement, but you do need to
put your BSMI registration code with the BSMI Mark on your regulatory label.
 
Hope it helps.
 
Jeff Jin
SIEMIC (China) Certification Services
www.siemic.com 
 


Sylvia Toma  wrote:



Hello group,

Is the CERTIFICATE NUMBER required to be included as part of the Taiwan BSMI
Class A statement (attached), which will be placed on the marking label of a
product?

Thanks for your response in advance.

Regards,

Sylvia

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> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/msword name=Taiwan BSMI Class A statement.doc 


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RE: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement

[Sylvia Toma]

Hello Kevin,

Thanks for the information.   Can you point me to any web link or published
document, which states the certification number needs not to be in the warning
label?

Thanks again.

Best Regards,

Sylvia

From: Kevin Tseng [mailto:kevin_ts...@emclab2000.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:33 PM
To: Sylvia Toma; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement


Sylvia,

You don't need put CERTIFICATE NUMBER in Taiwan BSMI Class A statement. The
Certificate Number only required to be included as part of BSMI Mark. 

Before, BSMI issues different number for different product. However, the new
policy is changed. BSMI issues Grantee Code to Auth Dealer or Company as FCC.
Please check the new policy before you apply BSMI for your product.

Best Regards,
Kevin Tseng/Program Manager
EMC Compliance Management Group
670 National Ave.
Mountain View CA94043 USA
Tel: 650-988-0900x110
Fax:650-988-6647
www.emclab2000.com   



From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Sylvia Toma
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement




Hello group,

Is the CERTIFICATE NUMBER required to be included as part of the Taiwan BSMI
Class A statement (attached), which will be placed on the marking label of a
product?

Thanks for your response in advance.

Regards,

Sylvia

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Re: Safety testing after equipment repair

[John Woodgate]

I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in <846BF526A205F8
4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675FBA@flbocexu05>) about 'Safety testing after
equipment repair' on Wed, 21 May 2003:
>Management is asking me if we really need to perform certain safety
>inspections and tests after the equipment is repaired. Of course, the answer
>is that the inspections and/or tests are a prudent action to ensure
>continued safety of the product. Then they ask "Does anyone else do it?"
>Good question.  Here is what we do. We intentionally tried to minimize the
>amount of inspections and testing. The protocol consists of certain visual
>inspections for such things as damaged insulation and missing fasteners; and
>a hypot test is specified only if the safety critical part being changed
>would be stressed by the test.
>
>So, let me pose the question - Does your company perform specified safety
>inspections and/or tests after repair of mains circuits?

Your procedure is exactly what I advise my clients to do, and of course
they always take my advice. (;-)

IIRC, that procedure is endorsed in an official or high-status
publication, but I certainly can't remember which one.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk 
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Safety testing after equipment repair

[richwo...@tycoint.com]

Management is asking me if we really need to perform certain safety
inspections and tests after the equipment is repaired. Of course, the answer
is that the inspections and/or tests are a prudent action to ensure
continued safety of the product. Then they ask "Does anyone else do it?"
Good question.  Here is what we do. We intentionally tried to minimize the
amount of inspections and testing. The protocol consists of certain visual
inspections for such things as damaged insulation and missing fasteners; and
a hypot test is specified only if the safety critical part being changed
would be stressed by the test.

So, let me pose the question - Does your company perform specified safety
inspections and/or tests after repair of mains circuits?

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International



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RE: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement

[Kevin Tseng]

Sylvia,

You don't need put CERTIFICATE NUMBER in Taiwan BSMI Class A statement. The
Certificate Number only required to be included as part of BSMI Mark. 

Before, BSMI issues different number for different product. However, the new
policy is changed. BSMI issues Grantee Code to Auth Dealer or Company as FCC.
Please check the new policy before you apply BSMI for your product.

Best Regards,
Kevin Tseng/Program Manager
EMC Compliance Management Group
670 National Ave.
Mountain View CA94043 USA
Tel: 650-988-0900x110
Fax:650-988-6647
www.emclab2000.com   



From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Sylvia Toma
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement




Hello group,

Is the CERTIFICATE NUMBER required to be included as part of the Taiwan BSMI
Class A statement (attached), which will be placed on the marking label of a
product?

Thanks for your response in advance.

Regards,

Sylvia

 <> 

Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement

[Sylvia Toma]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


Hello group,

Is the CERTIFICATE NUMBER required to be included as part of the Taiwan BSMI
Class A statement (attached), which will be placed on the marking label of a
product?

Thanks for your response in advance.

Regards,

Sylvia

 <> 

Title: Marking label for Taiwan BSMI Class A statement








Hello group,


Is the CERTIFICATE NUMBER required to be included as part of the Taiwan BSMI Class A statement (attached), which will be placed on the marking label of a product?

Thanks for your response in advance.


Regards,


Sylvia


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Taiwan BSMI Class A statement.doc
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Re: ENV 50204

[John Barnes]

Joe,
ENV denotes a European Pre-Standard.  ENV 50204 was called out by:
*  EN 50082-1:1997, Electromagnetic compatibility - Generic immunity 
   standard Part 1: Residential, commercial and light industry 
   (expires July 1, 2004).
*  EN 50082-2:1995, Electromagnetic compatibility - Generic immunity 
   standard - Part 2: Industrial environment (expired April 1, 2002).

EN 50082-1:1997 is being replaced by EN 61000-6-1:2001, Electromagnetic
compatibility (EMC) - Part 6-1: Generic standards - Immunity for
residential, commercial and light-industrial environments.  

EN 50082-2:1995 has been replaced by EN 61000-6-2:1999 and EN
61000-6-2:2001, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Part 6-2: Generic
standards - Immunity for industrial environments 

John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE
dBi Corporation
http://www.dbicorporation.com/


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RE: ENV 50204

[Carpentier Kristiaan]

Joe,

A European Pre-Standard (ENV) is established as a prospective standard for
provisional application in technical fields where the innovation rate is
high (e.g. Information Technology).

You can find up-to-date information on which Harmonised standards for the
EMC Directive are still applicable and for how long on
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re
flist/emc.html  

Regards,
Kris


From: Joe P Martin [mailto:marti...@appliedbiosystems.com]
Sent: woensdag 21 mei 2003 4:26
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: ENV 50204



Greetings,

ENV 50204 is titled "Radiated Electromagnetic Fields from Digital Radio
Telephones-Immunity Test"

Please refresh my memory on what exactly is an "ENV" Standard?  Are there
any requirements for testing to ENV's?  For what type of products would ENV
50204  be applicable?

We normally test to EN 61326.  It has been some time since I looked at EN
50082-1 Generic Immunity.  Could someone be so kind as to list what
immunity standards are in the latest version of EN 50082-1.  Does the
latest version still state that if there is a product specific standard
then that standard takes precedence over the generic standard?

Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Regards

Joe Martin
Applied Biosystems
marti...@appliedbiosystems.com








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Re: ENV 50204

[John Woodgate]

I read in !emc-pstc that Joe P Martin 
wrote (in ) about 'ENV
50204' on Tue, 20 May 2003:

>ENV 50204 is titled "Radiated Electromagnetic Fields from Digital Radio
>Telephones-Immunity Test"
>
>Please refresh my memory on what exactly is an "ENV" Standard?  

An experimental or trial standard.

>Are there
>any requirements for testing to ENV's?  

Not any more: they are all superseded AFAIK. For EN 50204, see EN
61000-4-3 latest edition.

>For what type of products would ENV
>50204  be applicable?

Nothing, now. 
>
>We normally test to EN 61326.  It has been some time since I looked at EN
>50082-1 Generic Immunity.  Could someone be so kind as to list what
>immunity standards are in the latest version of EN 50082-1.

Replaced by EN 61000-6-4:2001.

>  Does the
>latest version still state that if there is a product specific standard
>then that standard takes precedence over the generic standard?

Yes. 
-- 
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ENV 50204

[Joe P Martin]

Greetings,

ENV 50204 is titled "Radiated Electromagnetic Fields from Digital Radio
Telephones-Immunity Test"

Please refresh my memory on what exactly is an "ENV" Standard?  Are there
any requirements for testing to ENV's?  For what type of products would ENV
50204  be applicable?

We normally test to EN 61326.  It has been some time since I looked at EN
50082-1 Generic Immunity.  Could someone be so kind as to list what
immunity standards are in the latest version of EN 50082-1.  Does the
latest version still state that if there is a product specific standard
then that standard takes precedence over the generic standard?

Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Regards

Joe Martin
Applied Biosystems
marti...@appliedbiosystems.com








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