[PSES] AW: [PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

[Dürrer Bernd]

Hi Scott,

Article 5 of ErP Directive 2009/125/EC requires CE marking 
(https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009L0125&from=EN#d1e903-10-1).

Kind regards,

Bernd

Von: Scott Xe 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. September 2020 07:53
An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
Betreff: [PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

I have learnt that ErP Directive requires CE Marking as compliance with the 
Directive.  I could not find this requirement in the Directive like others such 
as LVD, EMC, etc.  Can someone advise if I got incorrect info or where to 
document this requirement.

Thanks and regards,

Scott


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[PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

[Scott Xe]

I have learnt that ErP Directive requires CE Marking as compliance with the
Directive.  I could not find this requirement in the Directive like others
such as LVD, EMC, etc.  Can someone advise if I got incorrect info or where
to document this requirement.

Thanks and regards,

Scott

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Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Selling into the Ukraine

[Brian Kunde]

Thanks to all for the information.  From our perspective, it would appear
to be a huge step in the wrong direction.  I am not sure of the
motivation but I have a few ideas.  We are moving forward by working with a
representative in Ukraine who is working with a local test laboratory that
wants us to send them EMC and Safety test reports.  These documents plus a
fist full of money will hopefully get the product into the hands of the
customer eventually.  Time will tell.

I have received many emails from people on this topic and I must pass on to
the group that given a choice many companies would rather stop doing
business in Ukraine than send detailed technical information about their
products to an unknown test lab.  Something real to consider.

Thanks to everyone for the information.

Brian

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:20 AM Dürrer Bernd  wrote:

> Hello Brian,
>
>
>
> It depends on your product, the applicable regulation (electrical safety,
> EMC, energy efficiency, RoHS-like environmental compliance), the applicable
> standards, and the applicable national certification scheme. If you already
> have CB reports for your product that are based on standards that have been
> adopted as national standards in the Ukraine, then, from our experience,
> local re-testing will not be necessary, and the existing CB report can be
> provided as technical documentation. I do not know all the details of the
> process and different certification schemes, as local certification is
> handled by our Ukrainian subsidiary, and we only provide our technical
> documentation to them. If you have a local subsidiary, importer or service
> company in Ukraine, I propose to check with them what specifically is
> required for your product.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Bernd
>
>
>
> *Von:* Brian Kunde 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 25. September 2020 17:23
> *An:* Dürrer Bernd 
> *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Selling into the Ukraine
>
>
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
>
>
> I know you mentioned "Local" certification body, is there any MRAs with
> international test labs that we could get this done in the states before
> shipping the product to the Ukraine?  If not, is there likely to some in
> the Future?  I brought up this topic to the Lab we use and they know
> nothing to very little about the Ukraine situation.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 2:26 AM Dürrer Bernd 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> The EAC marking scheme is the conformity assessment procedure for the
> Eurasian Economic Union (http://www.eaeunion.org/?lang=en
> ),
> but not for Ukraine. The Member-States of the Eurasian Economic Union are
> the Republic of Armenia, the Republic of Belarus, the Republic of
> Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic and the Russian Federation, but not
> Ukraine. Ukraine has its own conformity assessment procedure with
> regulations that are aligned with those of the European Union for CE
> marking, but Ukraine requires a Declaration of Conformity according to its
> own scheme that depending on the type of product involves a local
> certification body, a local representative, marking of the product with the
> Ukraine TR conformity mark (
> https://www.gma.trade/single-post/2017/11/24/Requirements-for-UA-TR-mark-application-in-Ukraine
> ),
> and labels and instructions in Ukrainian language. As many of the national
> standards are adopted from international IEC or EN standards, existing CB
> reports may be used as evidence of conformity in the required technical
> documentation.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Bernd
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* MIKE SHERMAN 
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 22. September 2020 20:17
> *An:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> *Betreff:* Re: [PSES] Selling into the Ukraine
>
>
>
> We've been EAC marking for a while, but I was not aware that the Ukraine
> was part of the EAC marking scheme.
>
>
>
> For EAC marking:
>
> -There are a few additional pieces of information required in the manual
> related to expected life, including when stored.
>
> -We are careful about what technical information we share.
>
> -We submit a Russian manual, plus Russian translations of the parts of our
> CE technical file that we share.
>
>
>
> Contact me separately if you have questions about EAC marking.
>
>
>
> Mike Sherman
>
> Graco Inc.
>
> On 09/22/2020 12:40 PM Steve Brody  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> B