Re: [PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

[Dean Jurgensen]

Hello David,

I believe this document explains it:
https://boss.cenelec.eu/media/4dij213u/en_iecreferencing.pdf

Cheers,
Dean

Dean Jurgensen
Compliance, Senior Test Campaign Leader | NCE
Xantrex Business
Mission Critical Electronics
P Please consider our environment before printing!

T: 1.604.757.6745
 x2440
B: 1.800.670.0707
E:
dean.jurgen...@xantrex.com


From: David Shidlovsky 
Sent: October 27, 2021 1:40 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content 
is safe.

Hello
I have seen EN 55032-2015 listed with either A1-2020 or A11-2020.
Is there any difference between them or is it just a typo?

Best Regards,
David Shidlowsky
Technical Reviewer
[cid:image001.jpg@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0]
Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 6117, LOD7120101   Israel
Tel: 972-8-9186100 Ext. 213 Direct: 972-8-9186113   Fax: 972-8-9153101
Mail: dav...@itlglobal.org
Web 
www.itlglobal.org

[cid:image002.png@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0]Waze ITL: 
https://waze.com/ul/hsv8vccn2j
[cid:image003.jpg@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0]
 
https://www.linkedin.com/company/itl-israel-testing-laboratories/
[cid:image004.jpg@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0][cid:image005.jpg@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0]
[cid:image006.jpg@01D7CB22.15A2B3F0]


-


This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 
mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>>

All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/
 can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.

Website: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to 

Re: [PSES] Filter Issues [General Use]

[Ken Javor]

Another possibility is adjusting power factor to account for the filter
effect. This is a common effect and a chamber outfitted with such filters
often has remotely-controlled power factor correction.  A long time ago,
when chamber EMI filters cut in at 150 kHz instead of 10 kHz, the impact
wasn¹t as pronounced, but there just isn¹t enough space between a ~1 kHz
pass band and 10 kHz 100 dB stop-band for the filters to have zero effect at
400 Hz.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: John Woodgate 
Organization: J M Woodgate and Associates
Reply-To: John Woodgate 
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:32:22 +0100
To: 
Subject: Re: [PSES] Filter Issues [General Use]

   

The filter is probably designed for 50Hz or 60 Hz mains. It probably isn't
saturating at a higher input frequency, but your voltage measurements
indicate that it may be resonating. I think you need a filter specifically
designed for 400 Hz mains.
 
 

==
 Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
 www.woodjohn.uk 
 Rayleigh, Essex UK
 Istae nunc praetereunt nisi non ubicumque
 
 
 
 
 
On 2021-10-27 10:56, Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK) wrote:
 
 
> 
>  
> 
> Hi members
>  
>  
>  
> Can anyone offer some advice.
>  
> Have issues with EMC Chamber RF Filter 3 phase.
>  
> Using 115V 400Hz single phase supply from a static convertor, filter looks
> like it is saturating.
>  
> Ambient levels failing between 6kHz to 150kHz.
>  
> Voltage of phase at static convertor 115.8Vrms but at EUT on bench 132Vrms
>  
>  
>  
> Regards
>  
> Andy
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  Andrew Price
>       Integrated Sensing & Protection (ISP)
>  
>  Prinicpal Environmental Engineer (EMC)
>  
>  
>  
>  Leonardo UK
>   Sigma House,
>  
>  Christopher Martin Rd,
>  
>  Basildon
>  
>  SS14 3EL, UK
>   Tel  EMC LAB : +44 (0)1268 883308
>  
>  Mobile: +44 (0)7507 854888
>  
>  andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com
> 
>  
>      leonardocomapany.com
>  
> HELICOPTERS / AERONAUTICS / ELECTRONICS, DEFENCE AND SECURITY SYSTEMS / SPACE
>  
>  
>  
> P Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Leonardo UK Ltd
>  
> 
> Registered Office: 1 Eagle Place, St James¹s, London SW1Y 6AF
>  
> 
> A company registered in England & Wales.  Company no. 02426132
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended
>  
> 
> recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
>  
> 
> recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.
>  
> 
> You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or
>  
> 
> distribute its contents to any other person.
>  
> 
> 
>  -
>  
>  
> 
> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc
> discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to
> 
>  
> 
> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
> http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html
>  
> 
> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at
> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used
> formats), large files, etc.
>  
> 
> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/
>  Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to
> unsubscribe) 
>  List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html
>  
> 
> For help, send mail to the list administrators:
>  Scott Douglas 
>  Mike Cantwell 
>  
> 
> For policy questions, send mail to:
>  Jim Bacher 
>  David Heald 
>  
 

  
 Virus-free. www.avg.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
-


This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to


All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in
well-used formats), large files, etc.

Website:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to
unsubscribe) 
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send 

Re: [PSES] Filter Issues [General Use]

[John Woodgate]

The filter is probably designed for 50Hz or 60 Hz mains. It probably 
isn't saturating at a higher input frequency, but your voltage 
measurements indicate that it may be resonating. I think you need a 
filter specifically designed for 400 Hz mains.


==
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
Istae nunc praetereunt nisi non ubicumque



On 2021-10-27 10:56, Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK) wrote:


Hi members

Can anyone offer some advice.

Have issues with EMC Chamber RF Filter 3 phase.

Using 115V 400Hz single phase supply from a static convertor, filter 
looks like it is saturating.


Ambient levels failing between 6kHz to 150kHz.

Voltage of phase at static convertor 115.8Vrms but at EUT on bench 132Vrms

Regards

Andy

*Andrew Price*
Integrated Sensing & Protection (ISP)

Prinicpal Environmental Engineer (EMC)

 Leonardo UK
 Sigma House,

 Christopher Martin Rd,

 Basildon

 SS14 3EL, UK
 Tel  EMC LAB : +44 (0)1268 883308

Mobile: +44 (0)7507 854888

_andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com 
_


leonardocomapany.com

HELICOPTERS / AERONAUTICS / ELECTRONICS, DEFENCE AND SECURITY SYSTEMS 
/ SPACE


P /Please consider the environment before printing this email./

Leonardo UK Ltd

Registered Office: 1 Eagle Place, St James’s, London SW1Y 6AF

A company registered in England & Wales.  Company no. 02426132



This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended

recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended

recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.

You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or

distribute its contents to any other person.



-


This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society 
emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your 
e-mail to 


All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html


Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities 
site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for 
graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.


Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to 
unsubscribe) 

List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas 
Mike Cantwell 

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher 
David Heald 



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

-

This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion 
list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 

All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used 
formats), large files, etc.

Website:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas 
Mike Cantwell 

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher:  
David Heald: 

[PSES] Filter Issues [General Use]

[Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)]

Hi members

Can anyone offer some advice.
Have issues with EMC Chamber RF Filter 3 phase.
Using 115V 400Hz single phase supply from a static convertor, filter looks like 
it is saturating.
Ambient levels failing between 6kHz to 150kHz.
Voltage of phase at static convertor 115.8Vrms but at EUT on bench 132Vrms

Regards
Andy


 Andrew Price
 Integrated Sensing & Protection (ISP)
 Prinicpal Environmental Engineer (EMC)

 Leonardo UK
 Sigma House,
 Christopher Martin Rd,
 Basildon
 SS14 3EL, UK
 Tel  EMC LAB : +44 (0)1268 883308
 Mobile: +44 (0)7507 854888
 
andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com
 leonardocomapany.com
HELICOPTERS / AERONAUTICS / ELECTRONICS, DEFENCE AND SECURITY SYSTEMS / SPACE

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.



Leonardo UK Ltd

Registered Office: 1 Eagle Place, St James’s, London SW1Y 6AF

A company registered in England & Wales.  Company no. 02426132



This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended

recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended

recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.

You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or

distribute its contents to any other person.




-

This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 


All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used 
formats), large files, etc.

Website:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas 
Mike Cantwell 

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher:  
David Heald: 

Re: [PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

[Andrew Wood]

David
I'm not speaking from experience, as I don't work with this standard, but the 
free preview shows that A1 replaces A11 and has a summary of the history of 
changes   
https://shop.bsigroup.com/products/electromagnetic-compatibility-of-multimedia-equipment-emission-requirements-3/preview

Andy


From: David Shidlovsky 
Sent: 27 October 2021 09:40
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020


***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, 
clicking links, or opening attachments.
Hello
I have seen EN 55032-2015 listed with either A1-2020 or A11-2020.
Is there any difference between them or is it just a typo?

Best Regards,
David Shidlowsky
Technical Reviewer
[cid:image001.jpg@01D7CB19.CEB70200]
Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 6117, LOD7120101   Israel
Tel: 972-8-9186100 Ext. 213 Direct: 972-8-9186113   Fax: 972-8-9153101
Mail: dav...@itlglobal.org
Web 
www.itlglobal.org

[cid:image002.png@01D7CB19.CEB70200]Waze ITL: 
https://waze.com/ul/hsv8vccn2j
[cid:image003.jpg@01D7CB19.CEB70200]
 
https://www.linkedin.com/company/itl-israel-testing-laboratories/
[cid:image004.jpg@01D7CB19.CEB70200][cid:image005.jpg@01D7CB19.CEB70200]
[cid:image006.jpg@01D7CB19.CEB70200]


-


This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 
mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>>

All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/
 can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.

Website: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to 
unsubscribe)
List rules: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>>
Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>>

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>>
David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>>

-

This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 


All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used 
formats), large files, etc.

Website:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas 
Mike Cantwell 

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher:  
David Heald: 

[PSES] AW: EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

[Dürrer Bernd]

Hello David,

amendment A1:2020 is the adoption of CISPR 32:2015/A1:2019 by CENELEC (without 
any modification), while amendment A11:2020 adds the European Foreword and 
Annex ZZ "Relationship between this European standard and the essential 
requirements of Directive 2014/30/EU [2014 OJ L96] aimed to be covered" that is 
required to have the standard listed in the OJEU.

Kind regards,

Bernd

Von: David Shidlovsky 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2021 10:40
An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Betreff: [PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

Sie erhalten nicht oft E-Mail von 
"dav...@itlglobal.org". Weitere Informationen, 
warum dies wichtig ist
Hello
I have seen EN 55032-2015 listed with either A1-2020 or A11-2020.
Is there any difference between them or is it just a typo?

Best Regards,
David Shidlowsky
Technical Reviewer
[cid:image001.jpg@01D7CB20.422F3120]
Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 6117, LOD7120101   Israel
Tel: 972-8-9186100 Ext. 213 Direct: 972-8-9186113   Fax: 972-8-9153101
Mail: dav...@itlglobal.org
Web 
www.itlglobal.org

[cid:image002.png@01D7CB20.422F3120]Waze ITL: 
https://waze.com/ul/hsv8vccn2j
[cid:image003.jpg@01D7CB20.422F3120]
 
https://www.linkedin.com/company/itl-israel-testing-laboratories/
[cid:image004.jpg@01D7CB20.422F3120][cid:image005.jpg@01D7CB20.422F3120]
[cid:image006.jpg@01D7CB20.422F3120]


-


This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 
mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>>

All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/
 can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc.

Website: 
http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to 

[PSES] EN 55032-2015+A1-2020/EN 55032-2015+A11-2020

[David Shidlovsky]

Hello
I have seen EN 55032-2015 listed with either A1-2020 or A11-2020.
Is there any difference between them or is it just a typo?

Best Regards,
David Shidlowsky
Technical Reviewer
[cid:image001.jpg@01D7CB27.5BC81000]
Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 6117, LOD7120101   Israel
Tel: 972-8-9186100 Ext. 213 Direct: 972-8-9186113   Fax: 972-8-9153101
Mail: dav...@itlglobal.org
Web www.itlglobal.org

[cid:image002.png@01D7CB27.5BC81000]Waze ITL: https://waze.com/ul/hsv8vccn2j
[cid:image003.jpg@01D7CB27.5BC81000]
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/itl-israel-testing-laboratories/
[cid:image004.jpg@01D7CB27.5BC81000][cid:image005.jpg@01D7CB27.5BC81000]
[cid:image006.jpg@01D7CB27.5BC81000]



-

This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc 
discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to 


All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at 
http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used 
formats), large files, etc.

Website:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/
Instructions:  http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)
List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html

For help, send mail to the list administrators:
Scott Douglas 
Mike Cantwell 

For policy questions, send mail to:
Jim Bacher:  
David Heald: