RE: Compliance After Repairs in the Field
If products required to have 100% production-line tests (such as Hi-pot and Ground Continuity tests), then I required that tests should be made in the field after repairs. I think it at least benefits checking out the minimum safety constructions are still functioning well. Regards, Anderson Cheng High Tech Computer Corp. -Original Message- From: marti...@appliedbiosystems.com [mailto:marti...@appliedbiosystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:50 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Compliance After Repairs in the Field Greetings, We are a manufacturer of Laboratory Equipment. We evaluate our products to UL 3101-1, CSA 1010.0 and EN 61010. When we repair a product in the field, which may include replacing power supplies, line filters, etc., what obligations do we have to verify continuing compliance with the safety specifications we originally evaluated our products against? Do we need to perform applicable safety testing following these repairs? Traditionally, NRTL's are not concerned with the product once it leaves the factory. They do not require follow-up testing to be performed after repairs are made in the field. Since we self-certify to the LVD, should we take a different approach to repairs in the field compared to the approach NRTL's take? Does your company have a specific process that is followed when repairs are made in the field to verify continuing compliance? If so, what is that process? All responses are appreciated. Regards Joe Martin EMC/Product Safety Engineer Applied Biosystems marti...@appliedbiosystems.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: GSM IN Taiwan
Mike, My understanding is that the designating authority for GSM phones is the Directorate General of Telecommunications (DGT). The only one accredited laboratory for the interoperability testing for GSM phones is the ChungHwa. Tel: +886-2-2326-2463 Fax: +886-2-2707-9668 Email: linho...@ms.chttl.com.tw Regards, Anderson -Original Message- From: Mike Cantwell [mailto:michael.cantw...@flextronics.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:33 AM To: emc-pstc (E-mail) Subject: GSM IN Taiwan I have two questions and would appreciate any direction: 1) Does anyone know who the Taiwan authority is for GSM phones? 2) Does anyone know of a laboratory that tests GSM phones to their functional requirements (not EMC and not RF requirements)? Thanks, Mike Cantwell, PE, NCE Flextronics Compliance Laboratories 762 Park Ave. Youngsville, NC 27596 Tel: (919) 554-0901 Fax: (919) 556-2043 Cell: (919) 815-4067 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
RE: Chinese GB/T17626.6-1998 standard
My understanding is that the GB-9254-1998 is similar to CISPR 22 and the GB-4943-1995 is similar to IEC 60950. Anderson Cheng -原始郵件- 寄件者: wo...@sensormatic.com [SMTP:wo...@sensormatic.com] 傳送時間: 2001年3月15日 AM 04:18 收件者: emc-p...@ieee.org 主旨: RE: Chinese GB/T17626.6-1998 standard BSI translates many standards. Give them a call. Richard Woods -- From: Clement Dave-LDC009 [SMTP:dave.clem...@motorola.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:45 PM To: 'geor...@lexmark.com'; david_l_tarnow...@email.whirlpool.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Chinese GB/T17626.6-1998 standard The Chinese are not generating official english copies of these standards. You will either need to find a service that has them translated or have it done your self. David Clement Motorola Inc. Global Homologation Engineering 20 Cabot Blvd. Mansfield, MA 02048 P: 508-261-4389 F: 508-261-4777 C: 508-725-9689 E: mailto:dave.clem...@motorola.com -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:33 PM To: david_l_tarnow...@email.whirlpool.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Chinese GB/T17626.6-1998 standard It is my understanding that the PRC EMC standard is GB-9254-1998. That is listed on our CCIB certificates along with GB-4943-1995 (safety). I do not know how to obtain an English copy. George david_l_tarnowski%email.whirlpool@interlock.lexmark.com on 03/14/2001 12:32:52 PM Please respond to david_l_tarnowski%email.whirlpool@interlock.lexmark.com To: emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Chinese GB/T17626.6-1998 standard Happy Wednesday, everybody! Is it true that the GB/T17626.6-1998 standard is China's version of IEC61000-4-6? Does anyone know how I can get a copy (in English)? Dave Tarnowski Whirlpool Corporation --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:
Re: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan
The Japanese laws about product safety will change from T-mark to PSE-mark, effective from April 1st, 2001. As for AC Adapters that already have T-Mark approval, there is a 5 year period for which they can continue to be sold OR to the point when their T-Mark license expires. Power Cords and AC Adapters are Class A products under the new scheme and as such the T-Mark will be replaced with the following PSE logo. Japan PSE SpecificA.gif Anderson Cheng -原始郵件- 寄件者: wo...@sensormatic.com [SMTP:wo...@sensormatic.com] 傳送時間: 2001年3月14日 PM 09:37 收件者: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 主旨: RE: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan Under the current regulations, EMC approval (VCCI) is voluntary and the only ITE that requires safety approval is AC adapters (the T mark). Will that change after April? Richard Woods -- From: Anderson Cheng(TPE) [SMTP:anderson_ch...@htc.com.tw] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:17 PM To: 'Peter Merguerian'; EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Cc: Ilan Cohen Subject: RE: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan Hi Peter, It depends on the configurations of your products. Since the Japan safety law is going to be changed from April 1, 2001. My understanding is that the ITE power supply (Category A products) shall obtain the PSE-mark approval. With the aid of CB report will be helpful to shorten the testing time. As for EMC, it's suggested to get voluntary VCCI approval increasing the market acceptance. As for PTT of Telecom Equipment, you should get the JATE approval. Regards, Anderson -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Cc: Ilan Cohen Subject: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan Dear All, For an ITE or Telecom Equipment with UL Listing and TUV Rheinland GS Marks only, rated properly (100-230V), and Intended for Japan: 1. Will the equipment be accepted without any additional tests? 2. Will the equipment be accepted without a CB Test Report? 3. Are the Japanese deviations to IEC 950 mandatory or can equipment be imported with the UL and TUV GS Marks only? I would appreciate any experiences many of you have had with exports of ITE/Telecom equipment to Japan and the new regulatory requirements there. Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il TO LEARN ABOUT AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND REQUIREMENTS, CONTACT ME AT THE EARLIEST STAGES OF YOUR DESIGN; REQUIREMENTS CAN BE TRICKY! attachment: Japan PSE SpecificA.gif
Re : Battery directive
Hi James, If I am not wrong, the two possible symbols might be: 1) Three-Chasing-Arrow symbol (Recycle Mark) 2) The symbol consists crossed-out wheeled bin as attached weee-go1.gif Regards, Anderson Cheng -原始郵件- 寄件者: goedd...@sensormatic.com [SMTP:goedd...@sensormatic.com] 傳送時間: 2001年3月14日 AM 02:50 收件者: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 主旨: Battery directive Group, Would someone please provide both of the two possible symbols allowed for the separate collection of batteries, under the battery directive 91/157/EEC? Or perhaps, a pointer to where they are stored on the web. As always, thank you very much for all your knowledgeable contributions. James Goedderz Product Safety Engineer Sensormatic --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, attachment: weee-go1.gif
RE: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan
Hi Peter, It depends on the configurations of your products. Since the Japan safety law is going to be changed from April 1, 2001. My understanding is that the ITE power supply (Category A products) shall obtain the PSE-mark approval. With the aid of CB report will be helpful to shorten the testing time. As for EMC, it's suggested to get voluntary VCCI approval increasing the market acceptance. As for PTT of Telecom Equipment, you should get the JATE approval. Regards, Anderson -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Cc: Ilan Cohen Subject: ITE/Telecom Equipment for Japan Dear All, For an ITE or Telecom Equipment with UL Listing and TUV Rheinland GS Marks only, rated properly (100-230V), and Intended for Japan: 1. Will the equipment be accepted without any additional tests? 2. Will the equipment be accepted without a CB Test Report? 3. Are the Japanese deviations to IEC 950 mandatory or can equipment be imported with the UL and TUV GS Marks only? I would appreciate any experiences many of you have had with exports of ITE/Telecom equipment to Japan and the new regulatory requirements there. Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il TO LEARN ABOUT AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND REQUIREMENTS, CONTACT ME AT THE EARLIEST STAGES OF YOUR DESIGN; REQUIREMENTS CAN BE TRICKY! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
RE: Approvals for China
George and Courtland, It's my understanding that the mentioned item 21 Telecommunication Terminal Equipment seems not applicable to the RS-232 Aysnch to Synch converter. I thought it's for products like telephone and Modem, etc. For the mentioned product, generally we will consider about two kinds of certification, safety and EMC. Since there is a little difference on certification system between China and EU that EU-LVD specifies the voltage ranges but China controls the categories, I would say that the RS-232 Aysnch to Synch converter is not within the scope of the China CCIB regulated categories. For reference, ITE products vs CCIB related categories (conforms to GB 4943) are: 1. Personal computer 2. Visual display unit 3. Switching power supply 4. Printer 5. Telecommunication terminal equipment * Personal computer was compulsive to be China CCIB Safety certified from 1-Oct-1996. * TTE equipment was compulsive to be China CCIB Safety certified from 1-Oct-1997. Starting from January 1, 2000, EMC Requirements (conforms to GB 9354) came into force for the following six kinds of import products: 1. Personal computer 2. Visual display unit 3. Switching power supply 4. Printer 5. Television set 6. Audio equipment Regards, Anderson Cheng High Tech Computer, Corp. TEL: +886-2-8912-4138 ext. 8393 FAX: +886-2-8912-4136 Email: anderson_ch...@htc.com.tw mailto: anderson_ch...@htc.com.tw Web: http://www.htc.com.tw -原始郵件- 寄件者: geor...@lexmark.com [SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com] 傳送時間: 2001年3月9日 AM 12:15 收件者: Courtland Thomas 副本: emc-p...@ieee.org 主旨: Re: Approvals for China Courtland, At the following website, http://www.cqc.com.cn/index-e.htm , I found these products listed, with the admonition following afterwards below. It seems like #21 would apply to your product? 21. Telecommunication terminal equipment 30. Ultrasonic diagnosis equipment and ultrasonic theraqy equipment 22. Security technology protectiong commodities 31. Automotive safety glasses 23. Fire alarms 32. automotive pneumatic tyres 24. Medical diagnostic x-ray equipment 33. Motorcycle tyes 25. Haemodialysis equipment 34. Automotive safety belts 26. Hollow fiber dialysers 35. Boilers 27. Extracorporeal blood circuit for blood Purification equipment 36. Movable pressure vessels 28. Electrocardiographs 37. Fixed pressure vessels 29. Implantable cardiac pacemakers 38. Safety accessory of foiler and pressure vessel (The Safety Licence System will be executed to above nine kins of commodities from Oct.1st 1997. At same time, the above commodities without obtaining the certificate for the safety licence of import commodities are not allowed to be imported to China.) George Courtland Thomas cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com on 03/08/2001 01:47:58 PM Please respond to Courtland Thomas cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com To: emcpost emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Approvals for China Hello group, I have a situation where we are selling equipment into China. My concern is that we don't have any compliance information on the labels of the equipment. We do our own in house testing for EMC (FCC Part 15 and CE), however our Safety is done at an outside lab. This device, however isn't tested by an outside lab for Safety. The device is a RS-232 Aysnch to Synch converter. The device gets power from the RS-232 interface, thereby eliminating the need for a power supply. The customer has not asked any questions and doesn't seem to be concerned with the lack of compliance labeling. In a situation like this, isn't there any product monitoring that is in place in China? If we were selling it into the EU, the 'CE' Mark would be applied. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line:
