Re: [PSES] Coin Cell Batteries in Remote Controls
Hi Scott: The requirements for coin cell batteries in UL 60065 and UL 62368-1 were adopted in a voluntary standard to avoid the US Government adopting a mandatory government standard. See http://beta.congress.gov/bill/112th/senate-bill/1165 For UL, if an ITE product had a coin cell in a remote control, in the spirit of IEC Guide 112 and the UL Multimedia PAG, UL would assuredly advocate the use of the UL 60065 or UL 62368-1 coin cell requirements. (Coin cell requirements were not added to UL 60950-1 because of transitional considerations.) To avoid government regulation of coin cell batteries, ALL usage of coin cell batteries should comply with IEC/UL 60065 and IEC/UL 62368-1 requirements, regardless of whether the product is subject to these standards. Best regards, Rich On 1/15/2014 9:40 PM, Scott Douglas wrote: Good day All, I have two products. One is ITE equipment (60950-1). The other is Audio/Video Equipment (60065). Both have credit card remote controls powered by coin cell batteries. Given recent amendments to the standards regarding these types of batteries and the ability to remove them (by small persons), I have to ask. Since the remote controls are battery operated, are they covered by either 60950-1 or 60065 and thus these new requirements? Are they covered because they are shipped in the same box as the product (which are AC Mains powered)? Are they covered even if they are only sold separately? My first choice is sold separately are not covered by the standards. But if packaged with the products (which are covered), then they are covered (and must comply)? I hope you all have good news for me... Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Coin Cell Batteries in Remote Controls
In message 52d770bc.4040...@radiusnorth.net, dated Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Scott Douglas sdoug...@radiusnorth.net writes: Since the remote controls are battery operated, are they covered by either 60950-1 or 60065 and thus these new requirements? Yes: both scope clauses say the standard cover battery-operated products. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Coin Cell Batteries in Remote Controls
Good day All, I have two products. One is ITE equipment (60950-1). The other is Audio/Video Equipment (60065). Both have credit card remote controls powered by coin cell batteries. Given recent amendments to the standards regarding these types of batteries and the ability to remove them (by small persons), I have to ask. Since the remote controls are battery operated, are they covered by either 60950-1 or 60065 and thus these new requirements? Are they covered because they are shipped in the same box as the product (which are AC Mains powered)? Are they covered even if they are only sold separately? My first choice is sold separately are not covered by the standards. But if packaged with the products (which are covered), then they are covered (and must comply)? I hope you all have good news for me... Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com