Re: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-13 Thread david.graham

Hi Robert,
You'll probably find CEPT recommendation 70-03 on short range devices
useful - it lists the ISM bands (ref: page 34 under 'Frequency Issues'),
national restrictions and applicable standards. There's a link to it on the
right hand side of the ERO home page.
Regards,

Dave.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Macy 
To: Bill Morse ; ;

Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe


>
> Bill, Rich,
>
> Just couldn't find out all of what I wanted there.  Did find individual
> country's allocation for ISM bands and that was encouraging.  What am I
> doing wrong?
>
>
> At this site I at least found some numbers:
>
>
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re
> flist/radiotte.html
>
>   ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.1.1 (07-2000) Electromagnetic compatibility and
Radio
> Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
> equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
> modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential
requirements
> under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive.  ETS 300 328/A1:1997 Date
expired
> (30.04.2001) Art.3.2
>   ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.2.1 (11-2001) Electromagnetic compatibility and
Radio
> Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
> equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
> modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential
requirements
> under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive  EN 300
>
> But no documents.
>
>
> My question is still, "What is the equivalent European requirement that
> matches FCC Part 15.247 regarding ISM bands?"
>
>  - Robert -
>
>Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
>408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
>AJM International Electronics Consultants
>619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Bill Morse" 
> To: "'Robert Macy'" ; 
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe
>
>
> >
> > Try the following URL.
> >
> > http://www.ero.dk/
> >
> > Technical Staff
> > Senior EMC Engineer
> > William Morse NCE
> > Phone     916.630.2540
> > FAX916.630.2501
> > EMAILbill...@verifone.com
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 AM
> > To: emc-p...@ieee.org
> > Subject: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe
> >
> >
> > Apologize if duplication of question here.
> >
> > Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules
> regarding
> > ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?
> >
> > - Robert -
> >
> >Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
> >408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
> >AJM International Electronics Consultants
> >619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112
> >
> >
>
>
>
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RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-12 Thread Bill Morse

On the left side of web page is bookmark for Frequency Plans then go to European
Allocations ECA on that page these are the purposed for frequencies to be
harmonized within the EU, on the right of the original page are the individual
country allocation links. 

The best you can hope for is that frequency allocation chart directs you to the
correct standard for that band and use. The technical information will be in the
standard. If it is an ETSI doc you can download them for free at
http://pda.etsi.org/pda/queryform.asp.

ETSI EN 301 489-1 might help.


Questions to ask:

Does the product fall under the R&TTE?
Does the product fall under a harmonized frequency allocation?
Is there a harmonized standard?
Is it Class 1 or Class 2 product under the R&TTE?
If its Class 2 then you will be needing the individual country link and doing
individual country certifications/notifications.

For the quick response, hope this helps

Technical Staff
Senior EMC Engineer
William Morse NCE
Phone 916.630.2540
FAX916.630.2501
EMAILbill...@verifone.com

 -Original Message-
From:   Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com] 
Sent:   Monday, August 12, 2002 1:36 PM
To: Bill Morse; emc-p...@ieee.org; richwo...@tycoint.com
Subject:Re: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

Bill, Rich,

Just couldn't find out all of what I wanted there.  Did find individual
country's allocation for ISM bands and that was encouraging.  What am I
doing wrong?


At this site I at least found some numbers:

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re
flist/radiotte.html

  ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.1.1 (07-2000) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio
Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential requirements
under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive.  ETS 300 328/A1:1997 Date expired
(30.04.2001) Art.3.2
  ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.2.1 (11-2001) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio
Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential requirements
under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive  EN 300

But no documents.


My question is still, "What is the equivalent European requirement that
matches FCC Part 15.247 regarding ISM bands?"

 - Robert -

   Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
   408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
   AJM International Electronics Consultants
   619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112



- Original Message -
From: "Bill Morse" 
To: "'Robert Macy'" ; 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe


>
> Try the following URL.
>
> http://www.ero.dk/
>
> Technical Staff
> Senior EMC Engineer
> William Morse NCE
> Phone 916.630.2540
> FAX916.630.2501
> EMAILbill...@verifone.com
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 AM
> To: emc-p...@ieee.org
> Subject: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe
>
>
> Apologize if duplication of question here.
>
> Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules
regarding
> ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?
>
> - Robert -
>
>Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
>408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
>AJM International Electronics Consultants
>619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112
>
>


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Re: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-12 Thread Robert Macy

Bill, Rich,

Just couldn't find out all of what I wanted there.  Did find individual
country's allocation for ISM bands and that was encouraging.  What am I
doing wrong?


At this site I at least found some numbers:

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re
flist/radiotte.html

  ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.1.1 (07-2000) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio
Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential requirements
under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive.  ETS 300 328/A1:1997 Date expired
(30.04.2001) Art.3.2
  ETSI EN 300 328-2 V1.2.1 (11-2001) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio
Spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission
equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum
modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential requirements
under article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive  EN 300

But no documents.


My question is still, "What is the equivalent European requirement that
matches FCC Part 15.247 regarding ISM bands?"

 - Robert -

   Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
   408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
   AJM International Electronics Consultants
   619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112



- Original Message -
From: "Bill Morse" 
To: "'Robert Macy'" ; 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe


>
> Try the following URL.
>
> http://www.ero.dk/
>
> Technical Staff
> Senior EMC Engineer
> William Morse NCE
> Phone 916.630.2540
> FAX916.630.2501
> EMAILbill...@verifone.com
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 AM
> To: emc-p...@ieee.org
> Subject: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe
>
>
> Apologize if duplication of question here.
>
> Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules
regarding
> ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?
>
> - Robert -
>
>Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
>408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
>AJM International Electronics Consultants
>619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112
>
>



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RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-12 Thread Bill Morse

Try the following URL.

http://www.ero.dk/

Technical Staff
Senior EMC Engineer
William Morse NCE
Phone 916.630.2540
FAX916.630.2501
EMAILbill...@verifone.com

 -Original Message-
From:   Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com] 
Sent:   Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject:Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe


Apologize if duplication of question here.

Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules regarding
ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?

- Robert -

   Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
   408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
   AJM International Electronics Consultants
   619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112




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RE: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-12 Thread richwoods

Frequency spectrum management is the reponsibility of each member state;
however, CEPT does issue recommendations and decisions that may or may not
be adopted by those states. Check out those recommendations and decisions at
the CEPT site.
http://www.ero.dk/
 
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International


-Original Message-
From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:07 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe



Apologize if duplication of question here.

Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules regarding
ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?

- Robert -

   Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
   408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
   AJM International Electronics Consultants
   619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112




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Need copies of specs addressing ISM bands in Europe

2002-08-12 Thread Robert Macy

Apologize if duplication of question here.

Is there a website to get a copy of the European Community's rules regarding
ISM bands similar to FCC Part 15.245-9?

- Robert -

   Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
   408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
   AJM International Electronics Consultants
   619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112




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